hernandez93901
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Ok....Who deserves redemption the most?
-Sasuke: was considered a criminal from Konoha due to the various crimes that he committed. The crimes can be considered "good" or "bad," depends how you look at it...
The ones that he did that can be considered "good"
-Killing Orochimaru who was an S-rank criminal
-Killed Deidara who was also an S-ranked criminal
I might be missing some but refresh my memory if y'all won't mind doing por favor
-I don't think this is considered to be a crime but he stopped Edo Tensei with Itachi!!
The bad:
-Betrayed and left Konoha to join the Leaf's most well known traitor (Orochimaru)
Killed some random fodders here and there
-Joined the Akatsuki (a well known criminal organization) and dismissed his brother's wish by wanting to destroy Konoha
-Tried to kill his former team mates (Sakura) and used Karin as a meat shield
-Disrupted the 5 Kage summit
-Invaded Kumo and kidnapped Bee in order to obtain the 8 tails
Ok, I'm no lawyer but this is a hell of a list and after Sasuke's supposed change of heart, I think it would be rather difficult for everyone to accept him with open arms but I'm waiting to see what happens
-Obito: Obito, Obito, Obito.....Where do I start?
He sacrificed himself for Kakashi and even gave him his Sharingan but after the shiz-niz that went down later he had a complete change of heart...
Despite the fact that Madara told him to act under his name, we see that Obito was left in his own devices after that...we're not 100% what Madara told him to do, word for word, but Obito has to be one the biggest criminals ever.
-Unleashed the 9 tails on the village he was from which led to the deaths of many civilians, fought his former sensei, and the event also led to the death of Kushina, and left Naruto an orphan and a jinchuuriki who faced discrimination throughout his youth.
-I'm not sure of the timeline but he took control of the Hidden Mist and made the Mizukage his puppet.
-Helped Itachi slaughter the Uchiha Clan
-Became a benefactor for the Akatsuki
-Killed some fodders as well
-Also infiltrated the 5 kage summit to basically declare War on everyone
-Killed Konan
-The war he started contributed to the deaths of many, including Neji :dunno:
To me, Obito is the one that seems to be in the point of no return. I do sympathize with him though, (telling Kakashi not to feel guilty)
-Madara: ummmm I don't consider him "evil" by nature. Then again, I don't think anyone in this series is. But the crimes that Madara committed:
-In Hashirama's time, he attempted to attack the village he helped established various times
-Made the Moon's Eye Plan (although it does sound like something with good intentions, but it's not)
-Killed many fodders in this current war and left the Kages near death
Can't think of more but please feel free to add some :yeah:
To me, Madara uses strength as a way to get his point across. He inherited the ideals of the older son of the SO6P, which is power is the true key towards peace. He cared for his clan and in his own way he cared for Konoha by forcing other villages to obey Konoha (Iwagakure)
But Madara also seems to be in the point of no return as well...
So, who deserves redemption the most? And feel free to add something if I'm missing it!
-Sasuke: was considered a criminal from Konoha due to the various crimes that he committed. The crimes can be considered "good" or "bad," depends how you look at it...
The ones that he did that can be considered "good"
-Killing Orochimaru who was an S-rank criminal
-Killed Deidara who was also an S-ranked criminal
I might be missing some but refresh my memory if y'all won't mind doing por favor
-I don't think this is considered to be a crime but he stopped Edo Tensei with Itachi!!
The bad:
-Betrayed and left Konoha to join the Leaf's most well known traitor (Orochimaru)
Killed some random fodders here and there
-Joined the Akatsuki (a well known criminal organization) and dismissed his brother's wish by wanting to destroy Konoha
-Tried to kill his former team mates (Sakura) and used Karin as a meat shield
-Disrupted the 5 Kage summit
-Invaded Kumo and kidnapped Bee in order to obtain the 8 tails
Ok, I'm no lawyer but this is a hell of a list and after Sasuke's supposed change of heart, I think it would be rather difficult for everyone to accept him with open arms but I'm waiting to see what happens
-Obito: Obito, Obito, Obito.....Where do I start?
He sacrificed himself for Kakashi and even gave him his Sharingan but after the shiz-niz that went down later he had a complete change of heart...
Despite the fact that Madara told him to act under his name, we see that Obito was left in his own devices after that...we're not 100% what Madara told him to do, word for word, but Obito has to be one the biggest criminals ever.
-Unleashed the 9 tails on the village he was from which led to the deaths of many civilians, fought his former sensei, and the event also led to the death of Kushina, and left Naruto an orphan and a jinchuuriki who faced discrimination throughout his youth.
-I'm not sure of the timeline but he took control of the Hidden Mist and made the Mizukage his puppet.
-Helped Itachi slaughter the Uchiha Clan
-Became a benefactor for the Akatsuki
-Killed some fodders as well
-Also infiltrated the 5 kage summit to basically declare War on everyone
-Killed Konan
-The war he started contributed to the deaths of many, including Neji :dunno:
To me, Obito is the one that seems to be in the point of no return. I do sympathize with him though, (telling Kakashi not to feel guilty)
-Madara: ummmm I don't consider him "evil" by nature. Then again, I don't think anyone in this series is. But the crimes that Madara committed:
-In Hashirama's time, he attempted to attack the village he helped established various times
-Made the Moon's Eye Plan (although it does sound like something with good intentions, but it's not)
-Killed many fodders in this current war and left the Kages near death
Can't think of more but please feel free to add some :yeah:
To me, Madara uses strength as a way to get his point across. He inherited the ideals of the older son of the SO6P, which is power is the true key towards peace. He cared for his clan and in his own way he cared for Konoha by forcing other villages to obey Konoha (Iwagakure)
But Madara also seems to be in the point of no return as well...
So, who deserves redemption the most? And feel free to add something if I'm missing it!
