[Discussion] Who defeated Hashirama @ the end?

[TobisPawn]

Tobi did tell Kabuto and Zetsu that he collected his DNA during their battle, though Kabuto knows that Tobi isn't Madara.

 

[Aze]

if anything this supports my theory he died of illness , or was weakened by illness when he fought so died of chakra exhaustion or something , rep+

Remember that thing , wat Hiruzen had?

Hes chakra network was growing weaker as he aged.

It could have been the casue aswell.

Also there must be negative effects to that Regenerate technique since it's OP as hell.​

 

[Frikid]

Plot no jutsu defeated him.

 

[Legendary Broly]

Remember that thing , wat Hiruzen had?

Hes chakra network was growing weaker as he aged.

It could have been the casue aswell.

Also there must be negative effects to that Regenerate technique since it's OP as hell.​

Oh yes ! you sparked my memory lol the regeneration technique absorbs your life force and shortens your life span

 

[Aze]

Tobi did tell Kabuto and Zetsu that he collected his DNA during their battle, though Kabuto knows that Tobi isn't Madara.

That's the most likely answer here.

It was Tobi who managed to defeat Hashirama.

but Hashirama was most likely weakened during that time.

Also , Tobi used a Jutsu on him , and Hashirama did not have enough time to figure it out most likely.

Plot no jutsu defeated him.

Plot No Jutsu,Talk No Jutsu > COAT

 

[Prime Rib]

hashirama died during thewar.

 

[+PDatta+]

time... killed him, my friend... time waits for no one( maybe tobi had time as an ally so that he survived for such long time ) but definitely not for hashirama... he was mortal and he met his fate... thats all....
:shrug:

 

[+PDatta+]

That's the most likely answer here.

It was Tobi who managed to defeat Hashirama.

but Hashirama was most likely weakened during that time.

Also , Tobi used a Jutsu on him , and Hashirama did not have enough time to figure it out most likely.




Plot No Jutsu,Talk No Jutsu > COAT

don't tell me that tobi defeted hashirama....
that shit cant even defeat the 4th hokage even when he was stressed and his mind was diverted towards saving the village and his wife...
and even weak hashi is supposed to be stronger than 4th...

 

[TobisPawn]

don't tell me that tobi defeted hashirama....
that shit cant even defeat the 4th hokage even when he was stressed and his mind was diverted towards saving the village and his wife...
and even weak hashi is supposed to be stronger than 4th...

Minato was a perfect match against Tobi...

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

time... killed him, my friend... time waits for no one( maybe tobi had time as an ally so that he survived for such long time ) but definitely not for hashirama... he was mortal and he met his fate... thats all....
:shrug:

The Databooks said that he died in one of the many wars that raged on during his era.

 

[rollin]

in the databook it said he died in war
tsunade said he died in the middle of his dreams

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whatever happened to him his body was recovered

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[Imperius]

i think i also find it strange tha how madara or tsunade never said anything about their deaths, madara mustve lived a really long time after vote but he doesnt mention hashiramas death or anything like that?
i dunno i find it very strange, pls kishi give us a flashback

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

It was obviously either Madara or Tobi. No other shinobi in history could beat him outside of these shinobi except for people older than them (1st and 2nd Sage Son, Sage himself)

 

[D3A]

Hashirama was killed by a raging combination of several STD's. Ironically, the downfall of the great wood-style user...was his wood

 

[StrifeMaccy]

Madara seems the only likely character that I know off at the moment who could of done it.
Tobi maybe, but he's seemed strong, but not super strong until he got the rinnengan, so I doubt he could defeat him.
Maybe he just died in battle with a stray jutsu hitting him with his back turned

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

one of the other shodai kages perhaps? we never did find out who the best mizukage/tsuchikage was. could have been shodai

 

[Aze]

one of the other shodai kages perhaps? we never did find out who the best mizukage/tsuchikage was. could have been shodai

We have 2 different versions of Hashirama vs Madara.


One belong to Uchiha Madara.

Other belongs to Tobi.

So far Tobi has given alot more information about the event than actual Uchiha Madara.

Uchiha Madara has only given praise about Hashiramas strength.


Uchiha Madara fought , Hashirama = lost = stole some DNA.

Tobi fought Hashirama = and won + stole some of hes DNA , but @ different timeline.

Tobi = Cultivated Hashiramas clone to produce Zetsu and have infinite number of limbs.

Tobi was most likely severly injured with hes fight with Hashirama = that's why he uses Zetsu or similar things to replace limbs.


Tobi and Madaras relation = will be the final and most EPIC Twist in Manga history.​

 

[Klubargutan]

Madara killed him in 1st ninja war, while Hashirama gave his tailed beasts to other nations(he didn't have anything to face complete susano'o)...and don't get wrong idea, Hashi and Madara we rivals, Madara lost the most important fight, but that doesnt make Hashi stronger, he had just better day than Madara, they were EQUAL
​

 

[Aze]

Madara killed him in 1st ninja war, while Hashirama gave his tailed beasts to other nations(he didn't have anything to face complete susano'o)...and don't get wrong idea, Hashi and Madara we rivals, Madara lost the most important fight, but that doesnt make Hashi stronger, he had just better day than Madara, they were EQUAL

They where Equal by all means.

But I think , that Madara was the actual winner of the fight = stole hashis cells , and faked hes death most likely.

In the long term he won.

But emotionaly and in higher understanding Hashirama won.

Since I think , that Hashirama broke Uchiha Madaras will and @ some point Madara admited defeat , then Hashirama left Madara to die there slowly.

Or Uchiha Madara fell down on a waterfall and was saved by Tobi or something later.

Then Using Hashis cells and help from Tobi or something , he died afterwards and awakened the Rinnegan. ​

 

[ekichi onizuka]

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