Who could solo Madara (not including SOSP)

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No one.

Tobi would get killed by Madara if he spams Mokuton clones.
 

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This. The Nagato having it longer excuse has a lot of flaws. Tobi seems to be extremely knowledgeable and skilled with the Rinnegan.


I still stand by Tobi being the only one who can solo Madara at the moment.

Have you seen what Nagato can do with it? Madara and Tobi are playing catch up i think its also naive to think Madara can achieve everything that Nagato can do having it for a short amount of time... or so we believe

Another tthink about Madara being stronger because of that meteor is bs im sorry

Chibaku tensei is bigger then that Meteor and pulls you in and im very sure Celestial Tera Blast would be bigger.Nagato used a mini meteor vs Naruto under kabutos control and its pathetic people compare this to Madaras Meteor which was using handseals btw and killed himself as well.....
 

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Have you seen what Nagato can do with it? Madara and Tobi are playing catch up i think its also naive to think Madara can achieve everything that Nagato can do having it for a short amount of time... or so we believe

Another tthink about Madara being stronger because of that meteor is bs im sorry

Chibaku tensei is bigger then that Meteor and pulls you in and im very sure Celestial Tera Blast would be bigger.Nagato used a mini meteor vs Naruto under kabutos control and its pathetic people compare this to Madaras Meteor which was using handseals btw and killed himself as well.....

Dude wake up madara was the first one to learn the secrects of rinnegan and to achieve it + he or tobi was the one that gave nagato the rinnegan, + nagato was like only 50precent in rinnegan as good as Madara is don't be a fool, Uchiha is always better in Eye techniques than people that werent born with it Like nagato or kakashi or whatever.. nagato didnt read the Uchiha tablet so he wasn't able to know all the secrects for sure.. and also for uchiha it takes short amount of time to get used to dojutsus.. We can take kakashi and sasuke for example..
 

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Are you kidding me again ??

Tobi both eyes??

Tobi first eye - Sharingan..
Madara has Eternal Mangekyo sharingan.

Tobi second eye - Rinnegan..
Madara has Rinnegan also + hes more skillfull in it :).

Okay guys guys.. If you say TOBI > MADARA.. Tell me how tobi will deal with IZANAGI, METEORITES, EMS, RINNEGAN, MOKUTON. And then I'm out of here:)
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Against izanagi: he can use another izanagi to counter madara's
Meteorites: tobi has gut 7 buijus with that his gut some hell of fire power to make useless the meteoritessss
Ems: I don't really see the big deal abt it tobi has done more with normal sharingan than madara's ema
Rinnegan: tobi has gut has for a much longer time than madara so its easy to say hes better at using it than madara
Mokuton: bujudama.....
 

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who do u think could take him on and kill him sealing is not aloud. and by the way this IS NOT EDO-MADARA this excludes SOSP.
this madara is healthy and can also use rinnegan, ems as well as hashiramas wood techniques. so this madara has the same ability's as edo-madara but just not in edo-tensei.if u know what i mean:shrug:
these are the people i think will stand a good chance against him:

Hashirama: madara may have some of his wood techniques and dna however hashirama can use his wood techniques more skillfully than madara. as well as better stamina.

Current naruto: if naruto works well with kurama he will stop madara. since naruto's speed has increased and power/chakra.

Sauske: sasuke still hasn't shown his true EMS powers so he can still manage against madara he aslo has perfect defence.

Nagato: nagato is healthy and can use all paths he can overpower madara as he has more experience with the rinnegan and able to use more techniques with it.

Itachi: Itachi is healthy and actually wants to kill someone this time he's determined unlike in his other fights. he can put madara in genjutsu as well as find a way around madara's techniques.

NO SEALING ALOUD
comment and rate:scorps:

Why do people always feel the need to say "current" or "Sage Mode" or "Bijuu Mode" Naruto. It's not like we don't know he has Bijuu Mode or Sage Mode or any of that shit.

But I don't think any of them can solo them
 

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Since Itachi can't seal him, I'll say no.


Sasuke's Lightning and Fire Style will easily handle Wood Style. Sasano'o probably. Also.. Sasuke's Amaterasu is probably the best since Madara hasn't shown his yet.

Sasuke has also read that stone tablet, What he knows.. is still unknown.



IMO:
Tobi has the highest chances of winning.
Sasuke would be second.
Naruto would be third or second.
Nagato.. A healthy Nagato.. I guess... Would come down to who is the better Rinnegan users, but Madara still has MS Tech. And possibly EMS tech. His chances of winning is slim.


I'm not saying any of them will beat him( I don't know for sure.), but these are the people I see that could either beat or give him a hard time.
 

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i willl add 2 more
kabuto(coz of his edo)
tobi

but i will deny 2 person of urs itachi and sasuke
 

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Those who could defeat him:
Tobi- master of most dojutsu
Naruto- mastered the nine tails
Hashrima- woopes his but before
Itachi- his sacred weapons tie the tie ( he is better than Nagato, i think it is so funny when people try and argue with this even when Itachi defeated him in one blow)

Naruto hasn't mastered Kurama yet, he can only be in Kurama's form for 5 mins while Bee can last for as long as he wants.

Hashirama def. Madara with EMS. this Madara that Hashirama would go against has rinnegan, can use EMS, susanoo, he can even use Mokuton and more.

Itachi didnt def. Nagato alone. He had Naruto and Bee's help. W/o them Itachi would have died a second time. Chibaku Tensei was destroyed from Itachi's Susanoo, Naruto's Rasenshuriken, and Bee's tails beast bomb. Itachi's Susanoo can't def. Chibaku Tensei solo.

Back to the Thread, I believe in my opinion (don't quote me on it, it's just an opinon as for everyone's elses answer is too), Tobi and Kabuto. Tobi's Space-Time , Izangti, brilliance , & bijuus he has control of. Tobi also pocesses Hashirama's cells too. Tobi and Madara are very similar. It's just that as of right now there's no way to kill Tobi. This Madara that Tobi's up against can be killed and isn't an Edo meaning no regenerating after a killer blow has hit. No unlimited chakra/stamina. This is just a prediction but if Madara can do most of what Nagato can do with his Rinnegan, does that mean Tobi gets the power of the SO6P , meteor, etc? Remember Tobi has Hashirama's cells too.

Kabuto because of all the Edo's he can summon, Madara won't have the chakra to seal if he can seal, all of the Edo's . Killing the Edo's not an option. Even if kabuto somehow dies the Edo goes on forever unless ur Itachi, meaning Madara will die at some point.

Reason for why i don't say Nagato can def. Madara is because Madara possess
SO6P too but the thread says not including SO6P so Nagato is out of the picture. Reason, SO6P is majority of Nagato's power and not Madara. Madara is strong himself but add SOSP , rinnegan, Mokuton and he's a new being.

Naruto Is debatable. I'm not sure about Naruto it would be a 50/50 because of no SOSP and it's not Edo Madara. But Madara was able to Control Kurama and so was Hashirama with mokuton which Madara now has. So idk aha later on in the series I bet naruto will be able to , maybe even defeat Edo-Madara who knows.

Sasuke cannot. With what we see now from sasuke, he cannot . We haven't seen his true EMS yet so edge goes to Madara. Later on same might happen with sasuke , he'll be able to def. Madara with some upgrade kish puts.

Hashirama, I don't know. My odds for him winning is 49-51. Madara has mokuton and rinnegan, hash has no knowledge on Rinnegan or it's power. Hash fighting and defeating Madara twice knows Madara the best of anyone.

I saw a post saying shisui and kakashi could def. Madara and I laughed. Shisui's KA isn't something to be afraid of in my opinion if AO is able to survive it also Itachi killed Shisui showing shisui isn't much. Not saying Itachi is weak but if he can kill a Madara with EMS, Rinnegan, Mokuton, why couldn't he kill Itachi.

Kakashi would get killed I won't even debate for Kakashi.

And lastly Itachi.. Idk lol Itachi's smart and has seal but no seal so I'd say Madara. Madara has meteor. Kunais prob gonna be useless with Mokuton , Madaras fire tech is on a higher level, BUT Itachi has amatersu and That other move I forgot what it's called and too lazy to look up but requires MS. Idk i score a 48-52 odds for Itachi .
Nagato,
 

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I hate to sound like a tape recorder but Naruto would go BM and blitz him with frs. OR go Sage mode and allow him to suck up some sage chakra
I don't see Hashirama doing it.
Itachi has ultimate defense and offense I see him taking it unless Madara tries to absorb his chakra in which case it Madara wins.
Tobi and his paths
Kabuto's one technique would screw nearly anyone over but this isn't just anyone so more info is needed
 

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Are you kidding me again ??

Tobi both eyes??

Tobi first eye - Sharingan..
Madara has Eternal Mangekyo sharingan.

Tobi second eye - Rinnegan..
Madara has Rinnegan also + hes more skillfull in it :).

Okay guys guys.. If you say TOBI > MADARA.. Tell me how tobi will deal with IZANAGI, METEORITES, EMS, RINNEGAN, MOKUTON. And then I'm out of here:)

Kabuto is even weaker than Naruto, but stronger than sasuke, so don't even tell the Kabuto > madara, hes slower, weeker and not experienced at all compared to madara, + EMs and rinnegan would kick his ass for good.

Why can Madara spam Izanagi? And Tobi most likely has meteorites due to his Rinnegan. He also most likely has Motukon due to his Senju DNA.

And You're forgetting Tobi's S/T Techs and Bijuus/Gedo Mazo.


So its pretty much:

S/T Techs + Gedo Mazo with 7 Bijuus VS EMS + Motukon (until we know that Tobi has it)

Everything else cancels out.
 
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Tobi

-He's better with the Rinnegan than Nagato.
-He has Gedo Mazo with the chakra of 7 bijuus.
-He has S/T techs.
-He has a very powerful base Sharingan.
-His physical strength is at least above average, for sure.
-He possibly has Wood Release.

Probably.but ya i think he's the better candidate for that.
 

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Tobi, Nagato maybe a few past kages. Naruto wouldn't be able to.
 

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I say only Tobi and Kabuto can do it. Nagato might. No one else.

Remember, since Edo Madara has the Rinnegan, he should be able to use chakra absorbsion. That alone should allow him to defeat basically everyone. Not to mention he can control the tailed beasts with his eyes.

Kabuto's only chance is with Edo. And that gives him a sizeable chance. But it would still be close.

Tobi just because he has gedo mazo and also has rinnegan + sharingan. He has Space-time while Edo Madara has Mokuton, so that would be the main difference there. Edo Madara however has techniques on a far more advanced scale (meteors).

Nagato also has Gedo Mazo, he might also have a chance. But his would be less than Tobi.
 

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HEALTHY NAGATO cant
CURRENT NARUTO cant
HASHIRAMA cant
SASUKE cant
PRIME HIRUZEN cant

ummmmmmmmm here is my list
ITACHI
KABUTO w/ his dragon mode + his edo's
and TOBI
 

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Kabuto...Edo Tensei. No sealing allowed So Madara dies.
 

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Only Tobi would have chance, no one else.
 
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