Who can Temari beat in Akatsuki?

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Wind beats paper lol. I agree she could beat Hidan because he is a CQC person and Temari is a LQC person; so that will be in her favor. The question is though, how does Temari counter 100 puppets? And what about Sasori's poison? And Iron Sand?
firstly, his senbons are useless because she will blow them away with wind. Direct poison gas is also useless cuz she can just blow it away. The only problem are the puppets. Kiri Kiri mae could end them as it destroyed a forest with big trees and I doubt the puppets are that durable. The only real problem I see its iron sand and sasoris body but she could take it high difficulty or lose
 

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Explain how Hidan can beat Temari?
Temari's wind element isn't going to cut right through Hidan, we've seen him take a strong wind element blast head on before stronger than temari.
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And his taijutsu skills were on pretty good even terms with kakashi (who had the sharingan to read movements) and skilled enough to evade shadows in mid-air.
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On that not defensively Hidan is superior to Temari but offensively she has more options than Hidan but not more powerful ones if his off-screen moves are able to kill jinchuurikis. Akatsuki members are praised to be stronger than jinchuurikis.
 

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Temari's wind element isn't going to cut right through Hidan, we've seen him take a strong wind element blast head on before stronger than temari.
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And his taijutsu skills were on pretty good even terms with kakashi (who had the sharingan to read movements) and skilled enough to evade shadows in mid-air.
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On that not defensively Hidan is superior to Temari but offensively she has more options than Hidan but not more powerful ones if his off-screen moves are able to kill jinchuurikis. Akatsuki members are praised to be stronger than jinchuurikis.
Im well aware of Hidan's abilities which is why im confident Temari can take him down.


Not manga, the Shikamaru Hiden novel. There is also no reason why Temari would be skilled at CQC.
Is it canon?
 

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Im well aware of Hidan's abilities which is why im confident Temari can take him down.
Well for you to believe that statement after everything I showed you means that you believe Temari has the skills and power to fight like Hidan. Which means she's able to keep up with 3 tomoe kakashi in a taijutsu fight, have enough fir power to beat a jinchuuriki, tank a forest blaster, produce enough wind fire power to exceed Kakazu's wind fire power, and be agile enough to evade shadows.

Are you saying Temari is capable of all this and more? Because evne kishi said he had more techniques too.
 

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Well for you to believe that statement after everything I showed you means that you believe Temari has the skills and power to fight like Hidan. Which means she's able to keep up with 3 tomoe kakashi in a taijutsu fight, have enough fir power to beat a jinchuuriki, tank a forest blaster, produce enough wind fire power to exceed Kakazu's wind fire power, and be agile enough to evade shadows.

Are you saying Temari is capable of all this and more? Because evne kishi said he had more techniques too.
Why would she be fighting Hidan in CQC?

All of which you stated has nothing to do with Hidan vs Temari as its a fight of long range vs short range

Also Kakuza's attack isn't designed for cutting as it is a pressurized wind blast.

Temari's attacks are blades of wind that slice their opponents so if you are going to compare her wind attacks they should be compared to that of Asuma's as he uses wind to slice which based on feats

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both of which slice unlike atsugai its a blast of blunt damage which if the object can move shouldn't do much damage
 
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Why would she be fighting Hidan in CQC?

All of which you stated has nothing to do with Hidan vs Temari as its a fight of long range vs short range
It does when Hidan is able enough to close the gab with Kakashi, so Temari would not have any special treatment since she's not good in hand to hand combat.
Also Kakuza's attack isn't designed for cutting as it is a pressurized wind blast.

Temari's attacks are blades of wind that slice their opponents so if you are going to compare her wind attacks they should be compared to that of Asuma's as he uses wind to slice which based on feats
I didn't read anything about wind damaging things a different way but I'll let you have this just to prove my point.

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Asuma's chakra blade is not a wind element, it's just chakra knife used to severe on contact. Temari's wind does not function the same way considering that Tayuya was not severed by Temari's wind attack, so of course Hidan will be completely fine.
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both of which slice unlike atsugai its a blast of blunt damage which if the object can move shouldn't do much damage
Not the same jutsu, the wind attack did not severe the target like Asuma's knife did.
 
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It does when Hidan is able enough to close the gab with Kakashi, so Temari would not have any special treatment since she's not good in hand to hand combat.

I didn't read anything about wind damaging things a different way but I'll let you have this just to prove my point.
Do you even manga?
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Asuma's chakra blade is not a wind element, it's just chakra knife used to severe on contact. Temari's wind does not function the same way considering that Tayuya was not severed by Temari's wind attack, so of course Hidan will be completely fine.
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Not the same jutsu, the wind attack did not severe the target like Asuma's knife did.
The point is both Asuma and Temari use their wind for cutting not just blasting stuff. If Hidan took a direct hit from that he would be cut to based on the fact that Asuma wind nature blade cut his head off no problem

As shown in the manga images above Wind can be made to be blunt or sharp this is why some wind attacks blow things some wind attacks cut things. If you disagree with that then you are disagreeing with the manga
 
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Temari's wind element isn't going to cut right through Hidan, we've seen him take a strong wind element blast head on before stronger than temari.
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And his taijutsu skills were on pretty good even terms with kakashi (who had the sharingan to read movements) and skilled enough to evade shadows in mid-air.
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On that not defensively Hidan is superior to Temari but offensively she has more options than Hidan but not more powerful ones if his off-screen moves are able to kill jinchuurikis. Akatsuki members are praised to be stronger than jinchuurikis.
him taking a wind blast doesn't change him being weak to cutting attacks. Standard shuriken and swords can cleave open his skin so temari's wind attacks that can cut off freaking samurai armour or mow down entire forests will rip hidan apart.
 

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him taking a wind blast doesn't change him being weak to cutting attacks. Standard shuriken and swords can cleave open his skin so temari's wind attacks that can cut off freaking samurai armour or mow down entire forests will rip hidan apart.
I explained it to him in the post above yours. He didn't know there was a difference in blunt force wind attacks and cutting wind attacks
 

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I explained it to him in the post above yours. He didn't know there was a difference in blunt force wind attacks and cutting wind attacks
it also fuks over sasori, since his puppets aren't as durable as their armour, and since she can simply manipulate the wind to cut the chakra strings. either way it leaves his puppets regardless of how many he chooses to use giver her attacks immense range and aoe useless. even if he manages to get up the iron sand it can't block her attacks. She can just manipulate the wind around it as seen again by her using her wind on the samurai to cut the armour off but leaving his skin unharmed and dodging the bits of amaterasu on the armour itself.

With such a high level of control sasori's ass is grass.
With the aoe and wind strong enough to cut said armour even when konan hardens her paper to steel lvls it still gets cut to shreds as explained above. Her ass is also grass
and finally hidan which need no further explanation.

GG no re on all 3.
 

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Do you even manga?
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Did you even bother to read the manga yourself before you posted? How does this disprove the fact that Kakazu's air attacks are different use than Temari's air/wind attacks? Pressurized air is also used in a slicing/cutting motion. So this here is just pointless.



The point is both Asuma and Temari use their wind for cutting not just blasting stuff. If Hidan took a direct hit from that he would be cut to based on the fact that Asuma wind nature blade cut his head off no problem
Tayuya begs to differ. Why don't you read the scan you just posted and look at the very nature of ALL WIND ELEMENT USERS
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And if you even bothered to further read, his change in nature only further enhance his chakra blade. Temari's fan is not a blade, so it's not only the wind element that cut Hidan's head off, it was the blade itself that was sharpened by the wind element.

As shown in the manga images above Wind can be made to be blunt or sharp this is why some wind attacks blow things some wind attacks cut things. If you disagree with that then you are disagreeing with the manga
Wrong. Wind cannot be used as blunt, just like the manga said applied to all wind elements. And never compare the sharpens of a fan to a chakra blade.
Manga already proved Tayuya's body being completely intact by Temari's blast, so do not deny this manga fact. You're comparing two ninja tools together which isn't making any sense when only Asuma was the only one able to cut Hidans head off and Temari couldn't even cut one of the sound four shinobis.
 

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him taking a wind blast doesn't change him being weak to cutting attacks. Standard shuriken and swords can cleave open his skin so temari's wind attacks that can cut off freaking samurai armour or mow down entire forests will rip hidan apart.
Like I said before, I never read wind attacks damaging people in a different way, so please actually bother to read my post next time. Since when did Wind ever been used in a blunt force matter? And after you realize that, also note that naruto/asuma pointed out the purpose of applying a wind change in nature into a sharp blade that can already cut people is to enhance.

A blade does not equal a fan, especially when the blade being sharpened by the wind element was responsible for cutting Hidan's head off. Now again, we go back to Kakazu's wind attack that did not severe his body in anyway.

Both of you too also failed to explain why Tayuya was also not severed by Temari's attack as well.
 
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