Who can solo Obito?

[jay2512]

Nice, mention a surprise attack that Obito didn't see coming, or had no idea that this surprise attack was going to happen (hence it being a surprise). Besides Databook already says that he used Kamui to phase right through it and Obito will see it coming anyway (Bleeding eye) and he has knowledge on it, so he can go intangible and avoid it.

Itachi can't touch Obito, simple as that.

It's weird how itachi is full of surprises from his legendary weapons to izanami to his general understanding of how things work. you're pretty much saying obito cant be hit by surprise attacks if he doesnt see it coming because its not fair. itachi is all surprise attacks, well finisher moves for the matter. Obito can phase through it again but that only leaves openings for itachi to analyze the situation.

Obito is the weaker Uchiha simple as that

 

[Zenic]

no one can beat obito 1v1 xd Uchiha Inza

Edo Madara can, short distance; uses Susanoo and then uses his meteorite technique directed at Obito thus destroying him and if Obito dodges he uses Wood Dragon to LITERALLY hunt him down and that's all she wrote

 

[KidGamer65]

It's weird how itachi is full of surprises from his legendary weapons to izanami to his general understanding of how things work. you're pretty much saying obito cant be hit by surprise attacks if he doesnt see it coming because its not fair. itachi is all surprise attacks, well finisher moves for the matter. Obito can phase through it again but that only leaves openings for itachi to analyze the situation.

Obito is the weaker Uchiha simple as that

Nothing you said in here proves or even begins to explain how Obito can touch Itachi, when I said come with proof on how he touches him let alone beats him, I asked for an argument, something you have failed to provide. When it comes to this debate, Itachi supporters usually bring out vague arguments like: "He will outsmart Obito" "He is intelligent, he will make a plan" or like you said: "He can analyze this situation" Knowing how it works is not going to save him if he can't counter it.

Itachi can't touch Obito, he has no way to counter Kamui and you obviously can't prove me wrong, that's why you decided to go with the vague explanations.

 

[Zenic]

MS Itachi, Edo Madara, EMS Sasuke, Hashirama Prime, Hiruzen Prime, Minato, BM & KM Naruto, Healthy Nagato>Obito any form. Nuff said. No explanation needed. ^.^

 

[KidGamer65]

MS Itachi, Edo Madara, EMS Sasuke, Hashirama Prime, Hiruzen Prime, Minato, BM & KM Naruto, Healthy Nagato>Obito any form. Nuff said. No explanation needed. ^.^

The bolded can't beat MS Obito w/Spare Sharingan, or Rinnegan Obito.

The only bolded who can beat MS Obito w/Spare Sharingan is Nagato and possibly Minato though his chances aren't as high as they were when he first fought Obito.

 

[Zenic]

The bolded can't beat MS Obito w/Spare Sharingan, or Rinnegan Obito.

The only bolded who can beat MS Obito w/Spare Sharingan is Nagato and possibly Minato though his chances aren't as high as they were when he first fought Obito.

Please explain why they can't? BM Naruto can solo all 5 Kage's in they're prime 100% healthy, can Obito do that? Nope, the reason why you think they can't beat Obito is probably why they haven't got to him if they can defeat him; it's because they can't pass the 10 tails.. yet and that confuses a lot of people unconsciously without them knowing. Have a good think about all the people I listed and their full potential and abilities then you'll know everyone I mentioned can take him down

 

[mrsaphens]

Are you seriously asking what I think you are?

Hashirama: Bringer of Darkness technique, Wood Dragon etc. This man took down Madara & The 9 Tails full power unleashed not to mention he was considered the strongest of all shinobi and can probably match Edo Madara if he was in his prime.

Edo Madara: Susanoo, Amaterasu, Meteorite Technique, Wood Dragon, Izanagi, Tsukyomi etc. Just like Hashirama he is considered the strongest shinobi of all time and Edo Madara may even be more powerful than Hashirama prime.

Nagato: I don't even to begin on Nagato.

The fact that you're asking "How?" is just proof that no one needs to answer if you don't know. Even Healthy Itachi prime & Minato can solo Obito

I only asked about Hashirama and Nagato.

Hashirama can't touch Obito. Nagato can't touch Obito.

So I ask again. How can they kill him?

 

[Zenic]

I only asked about Hashirama and Nagato.

Hashirama can't touch Obito. Nagato can't touch Obito.

So I ask again. How can they kill him?

Umm, what do you mean they CAN'T touch Obito?

 

[mrsaphens]

Umm, what do you mean they CAN'T touch Obito?

Kamui? You know that op jutsu.

 

[jay2512]

Nothing you said in here proves or even begins to explain how Obito can touch Itachi, when I said come with proof on how he touches him let alone beats him, I asked for an argument, something you have failed to provide. When it comes to this debate, Itachi supporters usually bring out vague arguments like: "He will outsmart Obito" "He is intelligent, he will make a plan" or like you said: "He can analyze this situation" Knowing how it works is not going to save him if he can't counter it.

Itachi can't touch Obito, he has no way to counter Kamui and you obviously can't prove me wrong, that's why you decided to go with the vague explanations.

Unfortunately i cannot provide scans of itachi hitting obito since it never happened soo I cannot make you happy.
If I chose to provide links of itachi using say totsuka blade that does not prove anything. I can say he could seal obito when he's off guard or when theres an obvious opening in this fight that we're trying to IMAGINE, but that just doesn't seem to be possible without available scans.

I guess I can feel the same way as you by saying you're Explanations are vague. You can post scans if you want of what obito could do but that won't change the fact that this argument will always be vague and just an idea that we can only assume on the outcome. Itachi can't touch obito, correct, he has never physically touched him but like I said, he indirectly got him with Amaterasu. that is evidence he actually made contact. If I spoke the way you did then obito can't touch itachi because he has never done so and I need hard evidence and proof of him doing so.

I said from my first post that I apologize for not getting to explain what I want to through my phone so I have no real intentions of getting into it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Please explain why they can't? BM Naruto can solo all 5 Kage's in they're prime 100% healthy, can Obito do that? Nope, the reason why you think they can't beat Obito is probably why they haven't got to him if they can defeat him; it's because they can't pass the 10 tails.. yet and that confuses a lot of people unconsciously without them knowing. Have a good think about all the people I listed and their full potential and abilities then you'll know everyone I mentioned can take him down

MS Obito

KM Naruto-Has no way of touching him, Mokuton is used to suppress his Bijuu powers and then he warps him with Kamui.

BM Naruto-8 minute Bijuu Mode is outlasted by a 10 minute Izanagi. During Izanagi Obito is literally invincible, no one and nothing can harm him. Once Naruto reverts to base, Obito warps him.

EMS Sasuke-Also can't touch Obito, can use Mokuton to sprout humongous roots from underground (Where Susanoo offers no protection) and skewer him.

Hiruzen- Lol, Hiruzen....he gets warped as he can't touch Obito or has no chance of remotely hurting him.

MS Itachi- Underground Roots to skewer him, outlasts him with Kamui and Izanagi, then warps him. He also can't hurt him.

Rinnegan Obito

KM Naruto-We already saw this fight and Naruto would have lost without help from Bee, Kakashi, and Guy.

BM Naruto- Obito and the Gedo Mazo take down Naruto, if he tries physical contact, he gets his cloak ripped off via Preta Path. Bijuu Dama gets absorbed via Preta Path. All Rasengan variants are absorbed, Gedo Mazo handles any clones.

Nagato- Obito and his Jinchuuriki paths murder Nagato. Obito's control of the Mazo surpasses Nagato's, Nagato can't handle all of the Jinchuuriki once they go into full Bijuu form using physical attacks since Preta Path absorbs Ninjutsu. CT is countered via Bijuu Dama and CST is countered via Kamui intangibility and Edo Jin Regeneration.

 

[Zenic]

Kamui? You know that op jutsu.

I know what you mean but if Hashirama can't touch Obito and Obito keeps de materializing then it wouldn't really be a fight would it? Because Hashirama is on the offensive and Obito is constantly de materializing and not attacking it would an endless loop with no one touching each other. I was restricting Obito's de materializing jutsu

 

[mrsaphens]

I know what you mean but if Hashirama can't touch Obito and Obito keeps de materializing then it wouldn't really be a fight would it? Because Hashirama is on the offensive and Obito is constantly de materializing and not attacking it would an endless loop with no one touching each other. I was restricting Obito's de materializing jutsu

Oh you was restricting it? If he can't use kamui he would loose to them.

 

[lol99]

I know what you mean but if Hashirama can't touch Obito and Obito keeps de materializing then it wouldn't really be a fight would it? Because Hashirama is on the offensive and Obito is constantly de materializing and not attacking it would an endless loop with no one touching each other. I was restricting Obito's de materializing jutsu

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[KidGamer65]

Unfortunately i cannot provide scans of itachi hitting obito since it never happened soo I cannot make you happy.
If I chose to provide links of itachi using say totsuka blade that does not prove anything. I can say he could seal obito when he's off guard or when theres an obvious opening in this fight that we're trying to IMAGINE, but that just doesn't seem to be possible without available scans.

I guess I can feel the same way as you by saying you're Explanations are vague. You can post scans if you want of what obito could do but that won't change the fact that this argument will always be vague and just an idea that we can only assume on the outcome. Itachi can't touch obito, correct, he has never physically touched him but like I said, he indirectly got him with Amaterasu. that is evidence he actually made contact. If I spoke the way you did then obito can't touch itachi because he has never done so and I need hard evidence and proof of him doing so.

I said from my first post that I apologize for not getting to explain what I want to through my phone so I have no real intentions of getting into it.

I don't want links or scans, I want a decent explanation on how he can hit him, obviously there is no scan that has him hitting Obito so why would I want or ask for one?

@bold: Vague? Its as simple as this, Obito's Kamui allows him intangibility, Itachi has not shown to have the necessary abilities to hit him while he is using his Kamui. This arguement isn't vague for the Obito side as there are ways Obito can beat him.
-Outlasts him.
-Skewers him with Underground Mokuton Roots.
-Manipulate the roots so he can pull him out of Susanoo.

Second bold: Really now? Itachi can't touch Obito not because he has never done it, because there is no way for him to do it since he lacks the jutsu and/or tools necessary to do it. Using the surprise Amaterasu as an example is pointless and incredibly flawed. Obito was not in battle, in battle he would have his MS active. Was he expecting a battle when he went to go talk to Sasuke? Obviously not. Did he expect Amaterasu to come out of Sasuke's eye out of the blue so he went in there with his guard up? Obviously not.

I know what you mean but if Hashirama can't touch Obito and Obito keeps de materializing then it wouldn't really be a fight would it? Because Hashirama is on the offensive and Obito is constantly de materializing and not attacking it would an endless loop with no one touching each other. I was restricting Obito's de materializing jutsu

And why would you do that? :|

 

[jay2512]

I don't want links or scans, I want a decent explanation on how he can hit him, obviously there is no scan that has him hitting Obito so why would I want or ask for one?

@bold: Vague? Its as simple as this, Obito's Kamui allows him intangibility, Itachi has not shown to have the necessary abilities to hit him while he is using his Kamui. This arguement isn't vague for the Obito side as there are ways Obito can beat him.
-Outlasts him.
-Skewers him with Underground Mokuton Roots.
-Manipulate the roots so he can pull him out of Susanoo.

Second bold: Really now? Itachi can't touch Obito not because he has never done it, because there is no way for him to do it since he lacks the jutsu and/or tools necessary to do it. Using the surprise Amaterasu as an example is pointless and incredibly flawed. Obito was not in battle, in battle he would have his MS active. Was he expecting a battle when he went to go talk to Sasuke? Obviously not. Did he expect Amaterasu to come out of Sasuke's eye out of the blue so he went in there with his guard up? Obviously not.



And why would you do that? :|

okay you don't want scans or links. i don't want scenarios or you putting yourself in the shoes of a fictional character to determine a battles outcome or how they would play out. At your bold, totsuka blade. it's a tool isn't it?
also, "in battle" obito never starts with MS unless you have proof.
and yes, stating itachi can't hit him while he's intangible is vague because the only way obito will hit itachi is when he is tangible and that's not difficult if one of the greatest arsenals itachi has is his ability to read people. don't assume that i'm trying to say itachi wins because he's intelligent, no. His intelligence will contribute to him beating obito. he figured out C/T very quickly. same will be done with S/T.


the question isn't, was obito expecting amaterasu? or was obito prepared to fight sasuke when he was amaterasu'd?
the question is, can obito expect or be prepared for everything? the answer is no. look what konan did to him. i don't know one character that wasn't astonished or surprised by something itachi has done so it's really no surprise if obito was simply sealed with totsuka.

In the recent manga's we've seen obito lash out becoming rash and careless. that's pretty much his weakness in which i believe will also get the best of him in the manga and in a versus against itachi. he can have alot more raw power than itachi and great tactics, but those fall apart when things get the best of you.

 

[KidGamer65]

okay you don't want scans or links. i don't want scenarios or you putting yourself in the shoes of a fictional character to determine a battles outcome or how they would play out. At your bold, totsuka blade. it's a tool isn't it?
also, "in battle" obito never starts with MS unless you have proof.
and yes, stating itachi can't hit him while he's intangible is vague because the only way obito will hit itachi is when he is tangible and that's not difficult if one of the greatest arsenals itachi has is his ability to read people. don't assume that i'm trying to say itachi wins because he's intelligent, no. His intelligence will contribute to him beating obito. he figured out C/T very quickly. same will be done with S/T.


the question isn't, was obito expecting amaterasu? or was obito prepared to fight sasuke when he was amaterasu'd?
the question is, can obito expect or be prepared for everything? the answer is no. look what konan did to him. i don't know one character that wasn't astonished or surprised by something itachi has done so it's really no surprise if obito was simply sealed with totsuka.

In the recent manga's we've seen obito lash out becoming rash and careless. that's pretty much his weakness in which i believe will also get the best of him in the manga and in a versus against itachi. he can have alot more raw power than itachi and great tactics, but those fall apart when things get the best of you.

@bold:Just stop now cause you make no sense, I said I don't want a link or a scan showing Itachi hitting Obito cause it doesn't exist. Use manga knowledge to show how he hits him. "Putting myself in the shoes of a fictional character to determine how the battle will play out?" No one is doing this cause the argument is as simple as this. Itachi can't win because he can't touch Obito, eventually he outlasts him or he takes him out via Mokuton. How hard can this be to understand?

Ok? What does Totsuka do? Nothing because he phases right through it. Cause I'm pretty sure I said he has no tools that can help him counter Kamui. I can't believe that you are trying to use that as an argument when a sword can't pierce something that basically isn't there and he always starts a fight using Kamui, go find one battle where he didn't start off with Kamui, regardless, it doesn't even matter as it takes less than a second for him to activate MS.

Like I said, it doesn't matter if he figures out how it works..he can't counter it, simple as that.

Your Konan example has no relevance to the topic at hand, did he have knowledge on Konan's trap? No he didn't, does he have knowledge on Itachi's abilities? Yes he does. If he had expected to be hit with Amaterasu by surprise, out of battle, through Sasuke who doesn't even have MS, then he never would have gotten hit.

And still you are avoiding the key question, how does he get past Kamui's intangibility and hit Obito? Obito can attack him long range with Mokuton, he doesn't need to get up close to hit him, Itachi does cause any long range attack he has is easily seen and phased through, Amaterasu is juts phased right through by Obito like the DB said he did the first time.

 

[jay2512]

@bold:Just stop now cause you make no sense, I said I don't want a link or a scan showing Itachi hitting Obito cause it doesn't exist. Use manga knowledge to show how he hits him. "Putting myself in the shoes of a fictional character to determine how the battle will play out?" No one is doing this cause the argument is as simple as this. Itachi can't win because he can't touch Obito, eventually he outlasts him or he takes him out via Mokuton. How hard can this be to understand?

Ok? What does Totsuka do? Nothing because he phases right through it. Cause I'm pretty sure I said he has no tools that can help him counter Kamui. I can't believe that you are trying to use that as an argument when a sword can't pierce something that basically isn't there and he always starts a fight using Kamui, go find one battle where he didn't start off with Kamui, regardless, it doesn't even matter as it takes less than a second for him to activate MS.

Like I said, it doesn't matter if he figures out how it works..he can't counter it, simple as that.

Your Konan example has no relevance to the topic at hand, did he have knowledge on Konan's trap? No he didn't, does he have knowledge on Itachi's abilities? Yes he does. If he had expected to be hit with Amaterasu by surprise, out of battle, through Sasuke who doesn't even have MS, then he never would have gotten hit.

And still you are avoiding the key question, how does he get past Kamui's intangibility and hit Obito? Obito can attack him long range with Mokuton, he doesn't need to get up close to hit him, Itachi does cause any long range attack he has is easily seen and phased through, Amaterasu is juts phased right through by Obito like the DB said he did the first time.

heh you're sounding quite foolish now. its irrelevant to continue with you since you just restated what i restated in you not wanting scans or links. really no point in bolding it lol. and yes it doesn't matter if obito starts with MS or not, i was just correcting you when you said he starts battle with it.

and to your question i indirectly answered that went over your head is, wait till he is tangible. what does totsuka do? it seals what it pierces. what if it pierced a tangible obito? i think he would get sealed. also to the last part of your post you're making a biased scenario again on how that plays out... i'm done man this is getting boring lol i don't have the time to become a senior member soo i'm just gonna say you win! weeeeeeeee

 

[KidGamer65]

heh you're sounding quite foolish now. its irrelevant to continue with you since you just restated what i restated in you not wanting scans or links. really no point in bolding it lol. and yes it doesn't matter if obito starts with MS or not, i was just correcting you when you said he starts battle with it.

and to your question i indirectly answered that went over your head is, wait till he is tangible. what does totsuka do? it seals what it pierces. what if it pierced a tangible obito? i think he would get sealed. also to the last part of your post you're making a biased scenario again on how that plays out... i'm done man this is getting boring lol i don't have the time to become a senior member soo i'm just gonna say you win! weeeeeeeee

:sy: He isn't getting him while he's tangible, the only moments he will be tangible, is when he his attacking long range with Mokuton, so Totsuka isn't hitting him then. And when he goes to warp him, that will be after his Susanoo goes down due to his chakra being burnt out. All you have here is an incomplete argument, and frankly that isn't worth anything. You decided to just say "get him while he's tangible" and you conveniently forgot to mention how he gets him to be tangible in the first place. Fail argument is fail. Just you stating the obvious. "Get him while he's tangible" No **** he's gonna get him when he's tangible.

Itachi fans always beat around the bush and never answer the question directly, just like what you have done here. I'm not wasting my time here anymore, as debating with someone who can't answer the question directly or completely is just annoying. At the end of the day, you have failed to show how he hits him.

Obito>Itachi, Itachi can't even touch him.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

:sy: He isn't getting him while he's tangible, the only moments he will be tangible, is when he his attacking long range with Mokuton, so Totsuka isn't hitting him then. And when he goes to warp him, that will be after his Susanoo goes down due to his chakra being burnt out. All you have here is an incomplete argument, and frankly that isn't worth anything. You decided to just say "get him while he's tangible" and you conveniently forgot to mention how he gets him to be tangible in the first place. Fail argument is fail. Just you stating the obvious. "Get him while he's tangible" No **** he's gonna get him when he's tangible.

Itachi fans always beat around the bush and never answer the question directly, just like what you have done here. I'm not wasting my time here anymore, as debating with someone who can't answer the question directly or completely is just annoying. At the end of the day, you have failed to show how he hits him.

Obito>Itachi, Itachi can't even touch him.

the great itachi has fallen. but all jokes aside izanami?