Indeed he did. And pre timeskip Luffy isn't touching a Prime Chinjao either so it's not a great example.
But here's the difference.
1.This is confirmed to be Prime Garp AROUND Roger's execution. The Garp Chinjao fought is not.
2. Sengoku is with him, it is a 2 on 1.
Not to mention aside from their faces if Shiki was below pre skip Luffy, so pretty much lower than Pacifista level or around that. Something Hancock was swatting away like flies in the war, or post skip Luffy one shotted?
Why in the world would Garp not just quickly deal with him alone, or Sengoku deal with him alone in one shot?
Are you telling me Garp and Sengoku would decide to tag team a pacifista (or pre timeskip Luffy) and with that serious of a face?
Indeed he did. And pre timeskip Luffy isn't touching a Prime Chinjao either so it's not a great example.
But here's the difference.
1.This is confirmed to be Prime Garp AROUND Roger's execution. The Garp Chinjao fought is not.
2. Sengoku is with him, it is a 2 on 1.
Not to mention aside from their faces if Shiki was below pre skip Luffy, so pretty much lower than Pacifista level or around that. Something Hancock was swatting away like flies in the war, or post skip Luffy one shotted?
Why in the world would Garp not just quickly deal with him alone, or Sengoku deal with him alone in one shot?
Are you telling me Garp and Sengoku would decide to tag team a pacifista (or pre timeskip Luffy) and with that serious of a face?
I m tired with Shiki vs Luffy thing.
I will ask u two simple questions:
1)Do u think Shiki can beat Akainu just because he fought 2 admiral lvl guys?
{ Jack also fought 2 admiral lvl guys. I m sure Jack can't beat Akainu}
2)And u seriously think Shiki is going to come back in manga because his fight was never mentioned?
I m tired with Shiki vs Luffy thing.
I will ask u two simple questions:
1)Do u think Shiki can beat Akainu just because he fought 2 admiral lvl guys?
{ Jack also fought 2 admiral lvl guys. I m sure Jack can't beat Akainu}
2)And u seriously think Shiki is going to come back in manga because his fight was never mentioned?
1) He might be able to, he might not be able to. Point is he is >>>>>>>>>> Pre Timeskip Luffy. He is a top tier.
2)Shiki will possibly be shown later in the manga.
I m tired with Shiki vs Luffy thing.
I will ask u two simple questions:
1)Do u think Shiki can beat Akainu just because he fought 2 admiral lvl guys?
{ Jack also fought 2 admiral lvl guys. I m sure Jack can't beat Akainu}
2)And u seriously think Shiki is going to come back in manga because his fight was never mentioned?
Crocodile speared Akainu and kept him away from Luffy+Jinbei then the commanders showed up to keep Akainu's attacks from progressing. If you keep going to the point Coby yelled stop, you can see Marco still there completely fine and fighting.
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Bro Jack also fought 2 admiral lvl guys(Sengoku, Isshou) and 1 vice admiral lvl (Tsuru) marine {and this guy fought 5days straight with Dukes and minkmen}.
Destroyed 2 of the Marines ship.
I don't think Jack can beat Akainu.
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Bro Jack also fought 2 admiral lvl guys(Sengoku, Isshou) and 1 vice admiral lvl (Tsuru) marine {and this guy fought 5days straight with Dukes and minkmen}.
Destroyed 2 of the Marines ship.
I don't think Jack can beat Akainu.
Did he win absolutely not we don't kno the level of difficulty for them to beat jack and minkmen aren't admiral level. And sengoku isn't prime. There are so many things that you aren't considering. Shiki took on prime sengoku and garp and was a major rival to roger. He is the absolute top tier which is like prime WB stays he can beat akainu
Did Shiki win against Garp and Sengoku?
-we also don't know the lvl of difficulty to beat shiki.
Wait we know. Oda wrote One Piece Strong World.
Lightning defeated shiki( i guess u also think Strong World is not canon).
So no point to discuss about this.
Seriously bro. U joking or what?
Dukes fought against Jack. His bounty is 1billion.
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Jack is right hand man of Kaido.
Jack must be mid admiral lvl guy.
Dukes have to be low-mid admiral lvl guys.
if they are not low-mid admiral lvl guys then GG Luffy. He can never beat Kaido.
there are so many thing u are not considering regarding Akainu:
He is Sengoku in this Gen(current fleet admiral)
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He must have trained hard in last 2 years (we saw what happened in PH).
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Aokiji lost his leg in this fight
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BB immediately ran away when he saw Akainu coming.
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Moriah fought Kaido{Chances are high that Kaido was Yonko during this fight}.
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Arlong fought Prime/Young vice-admiral Kizaru.
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U know what's the similarity between Arlong, Moriah, Shiki, Jack: They all fought admiral/Yonko lvl guys and were defeated badly.
Shiki and Arlong were sent to prison.
Moriah somehow survived but he lost his crew.
Don't know about Jack's status(but i m sure he is alive) :'(
He brought a fleet to fight against Roger. He cant beat him 1 vs 1. He even lost that fight.
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He went to WB after Roger's death sayin WB is new PK
Lol Arlong is compared with Shiki that is such a reach its funny. Shiki fought two top tiers the minkmen aren't close they are strong but not admiral level by any means jack is probably Low admiral that is possible since he's stronger than doffy. Dude Shiki destroyed half of marineford and took garp and sengoku a while to put to him down. Why would they waste time if he's a joke.
Roger had quality over quantity and Shiki was close to beating him. Shiki doesn't have a fleet anymore why would he think he's better than WB. He is a guy who is close to them in prime. Portrayal>ur dumb perception.
I still don't get the Arlong and Moriah comparison this guy is leagues above them. And is a known rival to roger. Any rival to roger > akainu who lost to old dying WB. Shiki>sengoku the guy has more hype and needed garp to put him down
the minkmen aren't close they are strong but not admiral level by any means jack is probably Low admiral that is possible since he's stronger than doffy.
Comeon bro Dukes has to be low admiral lvl guys. if not Luffy can never beat Kaido. Jack is probably low-mid admiral lvl guy.
Shiki fought two top tiers.Dude Shiki destroyed half of marineford and took garp and sengoku a while to put to him down. Why would they waste time if he's a joke.
Jack also fought 2 admiral lvl ok 1 admiral lvl, 1 vice admiral lvl and 1 former fleet admiral lvl guy. He destroyed 2/4 Marines ship.
and he also fought 5days straight(without any rest) against Dukes.
And i still think jack cant beat Akainu. u find any similarity between Jack and shiki here^
Roger had quality over quantity and Shiki was close to beating him. Shiki doesn't have a fleet anymore why would he think he's better than WB. He is a guy who is close to them in prime. Portrayal>ur dumb perception. And is a known rival to roger. Any rival to roger > akainu who lost to old dying WB. Shiki>sengoku the guy has more hype and needed garp to put him down
I have already explained this in my previous post.
why will shiki need a fleet?
this guy fought 2 admiral lvl guys single handedly.
he should have fought 1 on 1 fight against Roger.
why will he say WB is new PK?
he can challenge him for 1 vs 1 fight and claim PK title.
If he was on Roger's lvl he could have defeated him.
this proves shiki is not on Rogers or WB lvl.
Roger>WB>Shiki.
Lol Arlong is compared with Shiki that is such a reach its funny.I still don't get the Arlong and Moriah comparison this guy is leagues above them.
Everybody know Shiki > Moriah >Arlong.
I brought them because they fought admiral/Yonko lvl guys and got defeated badly.
if manga had never shown Arlong and made hypes like Arlong fought Kizaru,destroyed one of his ship, he was a former member of sun pirates whose leader destroyed Mariejois, he is 10times stronger than normal human, is worshipped by young fishmen(Hody),got some territory and marines help him. Then everybody will think Arlong is shichibukai lvl guy. But was he really shichibukai lvl guy? No.
Comeon bro Dukes has to be low admiral lvl guys. if not Luffy can never beat Kaido. Jack is probably low-mid admiral lvl guy.
Jack also fought 2 admiral lvl ok 1 admiral lvl, 1 vice admiral lvl and 1 former fleet admiral lvl guy. He destroyed 2/4 Marines ship.
and he also fought 5days straight(without any rest) against Dukes.
And i still think jack cant beat Akainu. u find any similarity between Jack and shiki here^
I have already explained this in my previous post.
why will shiki need a fleet?
this guy fought 2 admiral lvl guys single handedly.
he should have fought 1 on 1 fight against Roger.
why will he say WB is new PK?
he can challenge him for 1 vs 1 fight and claim PK title.
If he was on Roger's lvl he could have defeated him.
this proves shiki is not on Rogers or WB lvl.
Roger>WB>Shiki.
Everybody know Shiki > Moriah >Arlong.
I brought them because they fought admiral/Yonko lvl guys and got defeated badly.
if manga had never shown Arlong and made hypes like Arlong fought Kizaru,destroyed one of his ship, he was a former member of sun pirates whose leader destroyed Mariejois, he is 10times stronger than normal human, is worshipped by young fishmen(Hody),got some territory and marines help him. Then everybody will think Arlong is shichibukai lvl guy. But was he really shichibukai lvl guy? No.
Why would Shiki and Garp go two on one against someone who was beaten by a pre-time skip luffy? It doesnt matter actually, the fact that half of marineford was destroyed shows that that was not an easy battle. Garp and Sengoku would both low diff pre-time skip luffy alone and against shiki it was at least a mid diff battle because half of marineford was destryed. About Jack, we have absolutely no idea how that battle went down, against shiki we can clearly see both Garp and Sengoku fighting.
