[VS] Who can beat my hypothetical Kakashi?

[Bronze]

Madara solos

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

so him and obito somehow have the same ms well see there is the problem there

the clan would do as the SS did with toshiro and Sojiro

 

[blazekev90]

He doesn't need to see them. Like Pa said, the genjutsu gives away their location through sound, so Kakashi would know their location through the sound and attack there. Also, technically Oro can't control Hashirama anyway, so no wood clones.

Wouldnt he be effected by that point? he doesn't need to control Hashi, as long as he has no reason to disapprove Oro's wishes he'll fight along Oro and his GRANDDAUGHTER LOL .

(Yes, I'm purposely being difficult but it's true)

Also why was Kabuto excluded?

 

[Bogard]

Wouldnt he be effected by that point? he doesn't need to control Hashi, as long as he has no reason to disapprove Oro's wishes he'll fight along Oro and his GRANDDAUGHTER LOL .

(Yes, I'm purposely being difficult but it's true)

Also why was Kabuto excluded?

Well Pa retreated to have better options to cast the genjutsu from a long range distance because it gives away their location through sound [

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] If you read carefully, he also adds that to combine his voice with Ma's into the right melody it takes time. So the genjutsu doesn't affect the victim right the moment he hears the sound. The melody must be in perfect combo between Pa and Ma and it takes time to take effect. Reason why you can finish them [

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This is the curse of the event that happened from the moment Pain detected the sound to find Jiraya's position and attack

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Like you can see, it wasn't affecting them despite hearing it from the start. Only when the melody ended that it did affect them and Jiraya even had to intervene before, and notice that in this scenario when they started the genjutsu, the opponent was far away from them, which shows the considerable time it takes for it to work in time. Now normally Jiraya should be capable to try and flee the time the genjutsu takes effect, but while facing an opponent who has mountain range attacks, this strategy surely won't work

Concerning Kabuto? I simply forgot

 

[blazekev90]

Well Pa retreated to have better options to cast the genjutsu from a long range distance because it gives away their location through sound [

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] If you read carefully, he also adds that to combine his voice with Ma's into the right melody it takes time. So the genjutsu doesn't affect the victim right the moment he hears the sound. The melody must be in perfect combo between Pa and Ma and it takes time to take effect. Reason why you can finish them [

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This is the curse of the event that happened from the moment Pain detected the sound to find Jiraya's position and attack

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Like you can see, it wasn't affecting them despite hearing it from the start. Only when the melody ended that it did affect them and Jiraya even had to intervene before, and notice that in this scenario when they started the genjutsu, the opponent was far away from them, which shows the considerable time it takes for it to work in time. Now normally Jiraya should be capable to try and flee the time the genjutsu takes effect, but while facing an opponent who has mountain range attacks, this strategy surely won't work

Concerning Kabuto? I simply forgot

I wasnt expecting such an in depth post regarding this topic lol.

Yes, i know the process takes time. This is why i threw Hashi into the equation and seeing as Edo Hashi wasn't on your list I thought it was fair game (entertaining at least).


I say Hashi, Madara and Kabuto win for sure. (No edo)

 

[Bogard]

I wasnt expecting such an in depth post regarding this topic lol.

Yes, i know the process takes time. This is why i threw Hashi into the equation and seeing as Edo Hashi wasn't on your list I thought it was fair game (entertaining at least).

Haha i always like great details regardless of the topic Yes with Hashirama why not as long as he wants to fight alongside Oro and his granddaughter

I say Hashi, Madara and Kabuto win for sure. (No edo)

Curious to know your reasons. They can't land a hit on him(Obito's kamui), possess teleportation to appear where he wants(Obito's Kamui). He can warp them from far distance so fast that not even Obito, another kamui user with Sharingan and Rinnengan activated could see(his own kamui), and has the same fire power as Madara. I'm really interested especially since Kabuto is on the list. I suppose he could have a great impact in your argument

 

[Smd]

This Kakashi was born in the Uchiha clan instead, developed all his current abilities Kamui included(albeit on both eyes this time), so has his own Kamui power alongside Obito's. With both eyes, it unlocked his third power which is Susanoo and spent enough time with his eye techniques that he managed to develop PS

1- Sannins
2- Current 5 Kages
3- Akatsuki(Sasori, Kisame, Kakuzu, Itachi, Deidara, Zetsu, Nagato, Hidan, Konan)
4- Edo Madara, Hashirama
5- Edo Tobirama, Edo Minato, Naruto and Sasuke
6- Jubito
7- Sage of 6Paths U_U

Kakashi's eyes suffers from no blindness problem and is healed after each fight

Where does he stop?

lol you know i think kishimoto might steal this from you and add to manga.

kakashi has already shown to be a uchiha after useing both abilites of the MS Kamui ability

That Obito gave him.


Kakashi will unlock susanno and re match sasuke

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Hashi and Madara aren't needed.

Minato is enough.

His BM can beat PS, his FTG can beat Kamui and his stamina is superior.

 

[Smd]

How is Edo tensei actually changing a thing? Like i've said as long as Sannins are dead, it counts as a win

Because then Orochimaru would have Edo Minato jin, Edo tobirama, Edo hiruzen

 

[blazekev90]

Haha i always like great details regardless of the topic Yes with Hashirama why not as long as he wants to fight alongside Oro and his granddaughter


Curious to know your reasons. They can't land a hit on him(Obito's kamui), possess teleportation to appear where he wants(Obito's Kamui). He can warp them from far distance so fast that not even Obito, another kamui user with Sharingan and Rinnengan activated could see(his own kamui), and has the same fire power as Madara. I'm really interested especially since Kabuto is on the list. I suppose he could have a great impact in your argument

So in that instant Sannin possibly win?

Honestly no other reason than him having sound genjutsu lol. It works faster than Jman's, so i said "shyt Kabuto would be better" lol. Both Kabuto and Hashi have the ability to blind him, so that would factor in.

The only person capable of landing a hit against the Kakashi is Minato really, so their only hope (any team) would be genjutsu lol.

 

[Bogard]

So in that instant Sannin possibly win?

Maybe, maybe not, since like i've said pretty sure Sharingan or sense of smell can help Kakashi to fight without problems despite the genjutsu

Honestly no other reason than him having sound genjutsu lol. It works faster than Jman's, so i said "shyt Kabuto would be better" lol. Both Kabuto and Hashi have the ability to blind him, so that would factor in.

The only person capable of landing a hit against the Kakashi is Minato really, so their only hope (any team) would be genjutsu lol.

Sure but don't forget you can get out of genjutsu with intense pain as well(like Shikamaru did in part1). Maybe 2genjutsu can't even work together since like we've seen with Itachi and Sasuke another genjutsu breaks the other, but sure it's a nice proposal

 

[Rohasu]

stops at edo madara, madara = infinite chakra kakashi = limited chakra... i hate to say it but kakashi loses

 

[blazekev90]

Maybe, maybe not, since like i've said pretty sure Sharingan or sense of smell can help Kakashi to fight without problems despite the genjutsu

Sure but don't forget you can get out of genjutsu with intense pain as well(like Shikamaru did in part1). Maybe 2genjutsu can't even work together since like we've seen with Itachi and Sasuke another genjutsu breaks the other, but sure it's a nice proposal

I dont think those two would cancel out. One is ocular genjutsu and the other is sound. in the Sasuke and Itaxhi fight, two ocular genjutsu had to be used to disrupt the sound effects.

Disregard that, they might very well cancel one another. NOwI'm confused on how that worked.

it would be on kabuto to deliever the blinding blow lol.

 

[Oblivionx]

well he stops at 4 but definitely stops at 5...! and if team 5 can't beat him then not even sage can... ya know sage didn't has kamui....!

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Lol, edo tensei, does not of factor, ROFL! He kamui's the caskets. Are people this brain dead?

Stops at juubito or So6p.

 

[Nous]

Edo Hashirama and Edo Madara.
I shall explaining an edit, Sir Bogard.

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[Penguin]

Edo Tobirama + Edo Minato + Sasuke + Naruto solo.

 

[Nous]

Edit. Concise..
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Edo Madara may employ Gakidō to counter Kamui. Tenrai Shinsei can be utilized along side Madara's Perfect Susano'o and Hashirama's Senpō: Mokuton: Shin Sūsenju, can destroy Kakashi's own Perfect Susano'o [presuming it doesn't have Kamui properties attached to it].

While this is occurring [Perfect Susano'o, Senpō: Mokuton: Shin Sūsenju Barrage], Hashirama shall utilize Mokuton: Kajukai Kōrin to set Kakashi to sleep. If Kakashi teleports to the Kamui Dimension to stay, I ought to presume defeat. If he remains intangible, then Hashirama and Madara will simply mass produce clones for five minutes until Kakashi falls to the clones.

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