Who can beat Minato without knowledge?

[BlackBison]

Itachi, sasuke, naruto, obito, madara, hashirama, nagato, kisame, and probably jiryai

 

[Lightbringer]

Hashirama, Madara, Itachi, Rinnegan Obito, DSM Kabuto, SO6P, Nagato, Naruto,maybe EMS Sasuke also.

 

[Lucci]

Good thread.

What I've noticed with Minato is that a majority of his fanboys don't seem to think he can loose at all, and those that do not like him severely underrate him. What most naruto fan's seem to forget that is even though Minato's entire skill set is specialised around FTG, just because it is one technique, that doesn't mean he is weak. From what we've seen, he can not only teleport himself, but also redirect attacks aswell. This gives him a huge edge against people who would attempt to use moves like rasenshuriken, jinton, kirin, katon etc because if he manages to put a seal on that person without them realising, the second they try to execute a jutsu, they could end up one-shotting themselves with their own attack. Factoring in his other capabilities, he is indeed a very tricky character to defeat in a one on one.

For this reason, I'd have to say that only ninja with immense perceptive skills and a good skill set of jutsu would be able to defeat him without any knowledge of minato's ST capabilities. For me personally, I'd say Itachi, Madara, Nagato and Obito could do him some damage.

 

[LolaxXx]

6 paths of pain.

 

[Gene the Machine]

Secon Mizukage Minato would FTG Thin air in the seconds mirrage while Juuki boy round around like a crazy bitch

 

[Champ]

Any high level Shinobi
Obito
Hashirama
Madara
Nagato
Naruto
Sasuke
Itachi
Mu
Dsm Kabuto
Probably more people

 

[Bogard]

Any high level Shinobi
Obito
Hashirama
Madara
Nagato
Naruto
Sasuke
Itachi
Mu
Dsm Kabuto
Probably more people

Troll posts as usual. How do they counter FTG without knowledge? How do they counter Shiki fujin with or without knowledge?

 

[Champ]

Troll posts as usual. How do they counter FTG without knowledge? How do they counter Shiki fujin with or without knowledge?

He can't get past Susano'o
Mu goes invisible and slice he head off
Kabuto can't be hurt by him
I don't see him beating anyone I named.

 

[Minator93]

Without knowledge, considering RDS I'd say no one but Hashirama would be a real pain in the ass.

 

[thegame]

A good sharingan user could see through it beforehand.. Else none.. But the same goes for Hidan, duh...

 

[Bogard]

He can't get past Susano'o
Mu goes invisible and slice he head off
Kabuto can't be hurt by him
I don't see him beating anyone I named.

Without knowledge, why will Susanoo users(especially Itachi) start by spamming Susanoo from the get go against basic kunais? Even if they does that, will they be in Susanoo forever? Do they have something to fear to that without knowledge? Same goes for Mu or Kabuto? So no, FTG blitz would most likely happen and a marking is enough to finish the fight already.

Minato also has sealing techniques for that. RDS sealed half of Kyubi's chakra, can be used from far distance and is invisible and physically untouchable. Even Susanoo would be useless against it. He also has

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can also do the job easily. None of the person you named could simply deal with his sealing techniques especially since they have no knowledge

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Minato has no knowledge either, correct?

Sasuke (Ems) can defeat him.
Itachi (Ms) can defeat him.
Tayuya can defeat him.
Kabuto (Dsm) can defeat him.
Naruto (Bijuu Mode) can defeat him.
Danzo can defeat him. (KA, first move.)
Obito (War Arc) can defeat him.
Six Path's of Pain can defeat him.
Shisui (Ms) can defeat him.

All, mid~high difficulty. Excluding Kotoamatsukami users as it will only take a few seconds for them to stomp.

 

[SoulKiller]

Tenten

 

[thegame]

Without knowledge, why will Susanoo users(especially Itachi) start by spamming Susanoo from the get go against basic kunais? Even if they does that, will they be in Susanoo forever? Do they have something to fear to that without knowledge? Same goes for Mu or Kabuto? So no, FTG blitz would most likely happen and a marking is enough to finish the fight already.

Minato also has sealing techniques for that. RDS sealed half of Kyubi's chakra, can be used from far distance and is invisible and physically untouchable. Even Susanoo would be useless against it. He also has

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can also do the job easily. None of the person you named could simply deal with his sealing techniques especially since they have no knowledge

You are focusing too much on the kunai. In reality the most dangerous attack/move Minato has, is his space time barrier. The ability to throw the opponents strongest attack right back in his face. Nobody would create defensive techniques against their own strongest attack. Take 3rd raikage for instance. If itachi threw magatama on Minato, it had been the end for Itachi.

The Kunai are rather easy to avoid. I mean no knowledge at all is an idiotic idea, you would at least have knowledge of your opponents rank and whereabouts. Knowing he is kage, nobody with brain would let a supposedly missed kunnai fly by them. Itachi would sent it back with a shurinken instead, since it would just seem suspicious. Also it is quite easy to note that they doesn't resemble normal kunais.

So his real strength is in his sealing techniques (though FTG could even be seen as one of course). I mean it is said he knew all sorts of Uzumaki seals, which is the reason the Uzumaki clan was destroyed..

 

[Champ]

Without knowledge, why will Susanoo users(especially Itachi) start by spamming Susanoo from the get go against basic kunais? Even if they does that, will they be in Susanoo forever? Do they have something to fear to that without knowledge? Same goes for Mu or Kabuto? So no, FTG blitz would most likely happen and a marking is enough to finish the fight already.

Minato also has sealing techniques for that. RDS sealed half of Kyubi's chakra, can be used from far distance and is invisible and physically untouchable. Even Susanoo would be useless against it. He also has

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can also do the job easily. None of the person you named could simply deal with his sealing techniques especially since they have no knowledge

Itachi Genjutsu ends it for Minato. Susano'o is their ability why wouldn't they use it? Can't hurt Kabuto, can't see Mu. Minato speed would be enough for the Sharingan to track he would've have to resort to throwing his Kunai's around which will be disintegrated by Amaterasu. Sharingan was able to see Nagato's King of hell which is said too only be seen by people it touches, there's no resson why the Sharingan won't be able to see death god. Right so Minato's goin to touch Sasuke with enton around him?

 

[Bogard]

Itachi Genjutsu ends it for Minato. Susano'o is their ability why wouldn't they use it? Can't hurt Kabuto, can't see Mu. Minato speed would be enough for the Sharingan to track he would've have to resort to throwing his Kunai's around which will be disintegrated by Amaterasu. Sharingan was able to see Nagato's King of hell which is said too only be seen by people it touches, there's no resson why the Sharingan won't be able to see death god. Right so Minato's goin to touch Sasuke with enton around him?

Because they have no knowledge? Especially in Itachi's case? Where have you seen Itachi using Susanoo from the get go besides from his Edo version? Sharingan can't see God of Death. It's said by Hiruzen(professor who knows every jutsu in konoha) that noone can see it besides the user. Even if we go by the fact that they can see it, with someone as fast as Minato, targeting and succeding with his RDS will be easy. He won't even give time to either Susanoo users or Kabuto or someone else to react

@thegame i know about the space time barrier, but it's not sure that the opponent will start with his strongest techniques from the start. FTG will most likely to happen from the start than S/T barrier. It's the reason why i talk about it instead

 

[Champ]

Because they have no knowledge? Especially in Itachi's case? Where have you seen Itachi using Susanoo from the get go besides from his Edo version? Sharingan can't see God of Death. It's said by Hiruzen(professor who knows every jutsu in konoha) that noone can see it besides the user. Even if we go by the fact that they can see it, with someone as fast as Minato, targeting and succeding with his RDS will be easy. He won't even give time to either Susanoo users or Kabuto or someone else to react

@thegame i know about the space time barrier, but it's not sure that the opponent will start with his strongest techniques from the start. FTG will most likely to happen from the start than S/T barrier. It's the reason why i talk about it instead

This is funny you're basically relying on Minato to suicide, to win. This isn't a vs thread I gave you a list who will beat him, ofcourse you can't accept yo fav character losin.

 

[Bogard]

This is funny you're basically relying on Minato to suicide, to win. This isn't a vs thread I gave you a list who will beat him, ofcourse you can't accept yo fav character losin.

Nope i'm not relying on it. I'm only trying to prove you that none of the people you listed even have a chance to beat Minato if he really wanted. I can show you how Minato can beat them without even using RDS if i wanted, but RDS is the easiest way to show you that the least Minato can achieve in a battle is a draw(like i've said in the thread). So no, it's not a problem of fav character but Minato's jutsu who are simply too haxxed

 

[NidaimeRikudouSennin]

of course so6p is not a ninja. he is the first ninja.

 

[Gene the Machine]

hmm couldnt itachi beat Minato?? (no fanboy) seeing how could Minato use FTG against Itachi when itachi will stop his kunai in mid air like he stops sasukes Throwingstars in their fight ansd in the same movements make a kage bushin??