who beats itachi without knowledge?

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peoples over rate itachi's ability beyond itachi's caliber.
even base sharingan sasuke defeated itachi. too al people who said itachi wanted to die in hands of sasuke well yes he did but itachi fought sasuke with his full force and only when itachi's life force was about to cease he decided not to kill sasuke. but sasuke won that battle.

itachi's physical stamina and his M.S shortcoming and his desease made itachi wiser at using his M.S tech. people who think amatersu or tsukuyomi one shot any 1 has been a fail already. and not only these are not 1 hit knock out jutsu but also they render itachi blindness. not to mention amount of strain it cause to itachi's physical body too.

in the same way during itachi's whole life itachi didnt had any major victory.
itachi definately put tsukuyomi on orochimaru but we knw oro is immortal and even if oro is sealed or burned or what ever oro still resides so itachi <<<< orochimaru. and its official.

similary itachi cant defeat jiraiya bcoz jiraiya has more stamina,versitality, more of a long range fighter and more itachi fight him more itachi fails.

tobi,K.M naruto, ems itachi, other kages like raikage,tschukage etc are well above itachi's calliber.

p.s i dont think itachi with full susanoo on can fight properly due to his weak body so susanoo is more like last resort defense of itachi agnst long range fighter so no chance of offensive action of susanoo too. alot of think i can mention but itachi is only cool to watch but itachi cant win against big gun of narutoverse.:cool:
 

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sorry for the double post
but you really think sasuke would defeat kb without the help of taka :flaw:
he got owned twice
I know, i know. I was saying that one amaterasu ended the fight. Itachi (in my opinion) is better than sasuke and could replace sasuke and taka for the entire fight, meaning i think itachi would survive to see bee transform, at which point he amaterasu's or susano'os to end the fight the same way the fight was ended. In other words i believe if itachi were to replace taka for that fight the outcome would be the same.
 

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Minato U_U That mofo learn knowledge in the heat of combat. :shrug: proof?

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Uchiha's are not gods just because they on the family tree for the elder son. Anyone can beat anyone in naruto world. I will go as far as to say Rocklee can also. ( he is the most underrated character there is. The only reason why gaara we know now is still alive from all those high speed tai jutsu punch is plat no jutsu and a tail beast armor. I strongly believe he can take itachi on and sasuke if gai showed him the no eye contact training.)

And yes i am a aware of itachi pointing 1 finger casting a gen jutsu. ( the question is....can he point it in time before a high speed tai jutsu cut his throat.?

Not even Sharingon can read the speed moments of Gates, Kakashi stated this.

I wouldn't be Surprise if Shikarmaru could also, because "power" doesn't always determine a match...."brains" "willpower" "speed"

And if you want to flame me because i said Minato could knowing how many threads they are about this, this is all i have to say below.

"Once-in-a-decade genius" who invented at least three techniques that we know of, the lowest rank being that of A. While people tried capturing missing-nin like Itachi and Orochimaru, enemies of Minato were told not to even bother and to flee on sight. Best sealing jutsu we've seen in the series is the one on Naruto's stomach. Only non-bijuu control specialist to actually subdue the Kyuubi, and twice at that. Most importantly, he's Naruto's series benchmark, so comparing this kind of man up to a character's strength from part one is incredibly insulting to him.
 
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dont spam the topic
on topic madara hashirama naruto little chance considering he got control over kurama nagato little chance ...thats all
 

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Minato U_U That mofo learn knowledge in the heat of combat. :shrug: proof?

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Uchiha's are not gods just because they on the family tree for the elder son. Anyone can beat anyone in naruto world. I will go as far as to say Rocklee can also. ( he is the most underrated character there is. The only reason why gaara we know now is still alive from all those high speed tai jutsu punch is plat no jutsu and a tail beast armor. I strongly believe he can take itachi on and sasuke if gai showed him the no eye contact training.)

And yes i am a aware of itachi pointing 1 finger casting a gen jutsu. ( the question is....can he point it in time before a high speed tai jutsu cut his throat.?
lol Rock Lee you say? Interesting.
 

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The 3rd raikage might be able to beat him as well.
If Madara one shot the fourth Raikage with a normal Genjutsu, Tsukuyomi will do it as well.

Pain can win, but not Nagato since he can't break through Tsukuyomi when being caught once.
 
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Bee was defeated by sasuke who hadn't awoken susano'o, hadn't learned to manipulate amaterasu, and who had ms for 3 days. Itachi would beat him 0 difficulty. In fact, he almost DID beat him already without even activating his MS.
Which manga was u reading killer bee killed sasuke twice if he wasn't healed by taka and if sasuke activated his sassnoo killer bee would've stoped it if the raikage penetrated sasuke sassnoo den killer bee could becuz hes stronger den the raikage which is stated in the manga and Amaterasu is a eye tech which u have to follow ur enemy killer bee is too fast with his cloak and like it states in da manga killer bee cannot get caught in a genjustu cuz he has the eights tails and he would get snapped out of the genjustu..so plz cum wif facts and killer bee would beat itachi...And I forgot he has kisame sword which sucks chakra so sassno would be no match an we don't know if he can fuse with the sword...
 

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The same people that say Itachi can one shot Edo Madara as well ...just ignore
Of course you forget Tsukyomi is one shot and the totsuka sword I MEAN ITACHI CAN DO ANYTHING RIGHT Oooooooo don't forget about ametarasu that can one shot anyone.

ITACHI IS NR 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ice:

for noobs am obviously kidding O_O
 

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Of course you forget Tsukyomi is one shot and the totsuka sword I MEAN ITACHI CAN DO ANYTHING RIGHT Oooooooo don't forget about ametarasu that can one shot anyone.

ITACHI IS NR 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ice:

for noobs am obviously kidding O_O
I hate to turn on the fanboy cloak... but so far he's never lost a fight unintentionally....... so.......... (i'm not saying he can beat madara fyi, because there's no chance in f**k.)
 
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