[Discussion] WhiteBeard vs Garp

[Punk Hazard]

1. Exactly my point if Whitebeard wasnt injured before hand Akainu couldve never take off half his face he would push Whitebeard yes only because Whitebeard had heart problems.

2. Whitebeard did school him U_U Whitebeard only punched akainu 3 or 4 times in the fight while akainu was giving it his all and after whitebeard delivered the island busting punch to Akainus ribs he fell down in the ground hurt and in pain shouting "Shirohigeee"!!!! and couldnt fight back while whitebeard was just standing over him while hes on the ground why didnt he get up straight after he had recieved the blow???? exactly schooled . Akainu was initially meant to die at Marineford Oda just gave him plot shield to make things more interesting for the story.

1. Whitebeard wasn't injured in any way that significantly hindered him. He commented that Squard's stab wasn't enough to hinder him. If you're referring to his illness, then so? If Whitebeard loses to someone because his illness hindered him, then WB<than person due to his illness. Not only that, but Whitebeard's illness was not affecting him at the time Akainu cleaved off half of his face. This is evident by the fact that Whitebeard was striking Akainu, a Logia, meaning he was using Haki, and his illness stopped him from using Haki when he wanted to knock out Ace's executioners with Haoshoku and when he wanted to strike Kizaru, it left him unable to use Busoshoku.

2. No he didn't. Whitebeard snuck up behind him and hit Akainu with a sneak attack. And even then, Akainu was still able to cleave off half of his face. If I snuck up behind you and stabbed you in your kidney, you're gonna faulter too, even if you were better than me. One vs one, face to face, with no sneak attacks, Whitebeard vs Akainu ended up as Whitebeard on his knees, magma in chest as Akainu stood over him. Was Akainu hurt? Yes. But he was not schooled, because he wasn't even defeated. If Akainu was defeated, he would have stayed down for the rest of the war. If Akainu was "schooled", he wouldn't have had enough strength to face off against all of Whitebeard's commanders(minus Jozu), two Shichibukai, and Ivankov. If Akainu was schooled, he wouldn't have been able to keep on fighting and defeat Jinbei with absolutely no difficulty.

 

[Bogard]

Whitebeard will win(high difficulty). What's this? It's not Garp the world strongest man

 

[Zorø]

1. Whitebeard wasn't injured in any way that significantly hindered him. He commented that Squard's stab wasn't enough to hinder him. If you're referring to his illness, then so? If Whitebeard loses to someone because his illness hindered him, then WB<than person due to his illness. Not only that, but Whitebeard's illness was not affecting him at the time Akainu cleaved off half of his face. This is evident by the fact that Whitebeard was striking Akainu, a Logia, meaning he was using Haki, and his illness stopped him from using Haki when he wanted to knock out Ace's executioners with Haoshoku and when he wanted to strike Kizaru, it left him unable to use Busoshoku.

2. No he didn't. Whitebeard snuck up behind him and hit Akainu with a sneak attack. And even then, Akainu was still able to cleave off half of his face. If I snuck up behind you and stabbed you in your kidney, you're gonna faulter too, even if you were better than me. One vs one, face to face, with no sneak attacks, Whitebeard vs Akainu ended up as Whitebeard on his knees, magma in chest as Akainu stood over him. Was Akainu hurt? Yes. But he was not schooled, because he wasn't even defeated. If Akainu was defeated, he would have stayed down for the rest of the war. If Akainu was "schooled", he wouldn't have had enough strength to face off against all of Whitebeard's commanders(minus Jozu), two Shichibukai, and Ivankov. If Akainu was schooled, he wouldn't have been able to keep on fighting and defeat Jinbei with absolutely no difficulty.

What ever. U_U all I know is Whitebeard shat on Akainu during that fight and most people would agree with me U_U.

 

[Punk Hazard]

What ever. U_U all I know is Whitebeard shat on Akainu during that fight and most people would agree with me U_U.

Right. Because if I snuck up on you and stabbed you in your kidney, that means I can "shit on you." Whatever you say.

 

[Olorin]

MF: Garp wins über dif

Prime: could go either way

Imo the steongest marine and the strongest pirate were both stronger than the second strongest marine and second strongest pirate, though along the lines of 99:100 or 98:100

For the record I think WB, Garp and Akainu were almost equal in strength (as was Sengoku, the one that's always underrated) and now Akainu is probably already stronger than Garp and Sengoku

 

[TheHokage]

Garp wins IMO.

 

[Bogard]

MF: Garp wins extreme dif

Prime: could go either way

Imo the steongest marine and the steongest pirate were both steonger than the second steongest marine and second steongest pirate, though along the lines of 99:100 or 98:100

Keep living in mangafact denial dude. Manga says WB world strongest man. Garp fanboy says he wins :/

 

[Zorø]

MF: Garp wins extreme dif

Prime: could go either way

Imo the steongest marine and the steongest pirate were both steonger than the second steongest marine and second steongest pirate, though along the lines of 99:100 or 98:100

How does Garp win against Whitebeard? no dont tell me lemme guess. "Cuz Roger said we almost killed eachother thats enough proof to put Garp above Whitebeard" Lol dont make me laugh. That statement can be interpreted in many ways Ive seen no feats from Garp that puts him above whitebeard.

 

[TheHokage]

Keep living in mangafact denial dude. Manga says WB world strongest man. Garp fanboy says he wins :/

It's manga fact Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman yet we don't think he's stronger than Shanks who is also a swordsman.

How does Garp win against Whitebeard? no dont tell me lemme guess. "Cuz Roger said we almost killed eachother thats enough proof to put Garp above Whitebeard" dont make me laugh. That statement can be interpreted in many ways Ive seen no feats from Garp that puts him above whitebeard.

Yes it can be interpreted in many ways and one of those is Roger=Garp, like you said there is many way interpret that quote so until we see Garp lose to Roger all we can say for now is Garp was as strong as Roger.

Garp was known for constantly chasing and fighting Roger, a man who never ran away from a fight that itself is a feat.

 

[Zorø]

Garp wins IMO.

And how exactly does garp win other than the hype are there any feats that suggests he is stronger? and if so please elaborate?

 

[Olorin]

Keep living in mangafact denial dude. Manga says WB world strongest man. Garp fanboy says he wins :/

You are still much, much worse with Zoro

 

[Zorø]

It's manga fact Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman yet we don't think he's stronger than Shanks who is also a swordsman.

Thats because Shanks is also a haki beast and a Yonkou.

 

[Bogard]

It's manga fact Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman yet we don't think he's stronger than Shanks who is also a swordsman.

Which is another manga denial. Until there exist a contradiction around Mihawk's hype, he indeed is stronger than Shanks just like WB is stronger than Garp. Worse than worse is the fact that in WB/Garp case, WB has superior feats as well. Garp showed nothing to warrant him a position higher than Whitebeard

 

[Olorin]

Thats because Shanks is also a haki beast and a Yonkou.

Yes and Garp is neither the Hero of the Marines nor a Haki beast

Either way, enjoy your day arguing the usual

 

[Bogard]

You are still much, much worse with Zoro

Considering there is generally no mangarules around Zoro threads and that all discussions always come down to individual interpretation/assumption of mangapages, there can never be denial in my logics, so no i would never reach your level of denial. I'm not on the level of denying a general mangarule like you do

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's manga fact Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman yet we don't think he's stronger than Shanks who is also a swordsman.



Yes it can be interpreted in many ways and one of those is Roger=Garp, like you said there is many way interpret that quote so until we see Garp lose to Roger all we can say for now is Garp was as strong as Roger.

Garp was known for constantly chasing and fighting Roger, a man who never ran away from a fight that itself is a feat.

Mihawk is indeed stronger than Shanks because of his title though.

 

[TheHokage]

Thats because Shanks is also a haki beast and a Yonkou.

Title's are pointless Mihawk never wanted to be a Yonkou also Mihawk also has haki...your argument here holds no basis to it.

Which is another manga denial. Until there exist a contradiction around Mihawk's hype, he indeed is stronger than Shanks just like WB is stronger than Garp. Worse than worse is the fact that in WB/Garp case, WB has superior feats as well. Garp showed nothing to warrant him a position higher than Whitebeard

Mihawk>Shanks??? Yeah alright.

Garp has a greater portrayal fighting with the Pirate King is the greatest feat Whitebeard has one he shares with Garp...so not really they both have the same level of feat.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Title's are pointless Mihawk never wanted to be a Yonkou also Mihawk also has haki...your argument here holds no basis to it.



Mihawk>Shanks??? Yeah alright.

Garp has a greater portrayal fighting with the Pirate King is the greatest feat Whitebeard has one he shares with Garp...so not really they both have the same level of feat.

Convenient that title are pointless just so it can benefit your argument.

 

[Bogard]

Mihawk>Shanks??? Yeah alright.

Garp has a greater portrayal fighting with the Pirate King is the greatest feat Whitebeard has one he shares with Garp...so not really they both have the same level of feat.

Garp has never been stated to fight Pirate King Roger. All what we know is that they fought in the past but we don't know when. For all we know, Roger wasn't pirate king and far from his prime when he used to fight him. Shiki, Squardo and many others also fought Roger. His hype pales in comparison to Whitebeard's who is said to be the only one who could fight equally with pirate King Roger and became world strongest man after Roger died and remained world strongest man despite being old and ill. If Garp was really at that level, something like that would have never happened. Garp greatest feat to date is to be able to defeat Shiki with Sengoku's help, someone weaker than Roger/Whitebeard

 

[TheHokage]

Convenient that title are pointless just so it can benefit your argument.

How does this even make sense? Do you not see the contradiction? Mihawk is stronger than Shanks because hes the WSS and Shanks is stronger than Mihawk because he's a Yonkou. No people who try to dispute this are just making excuses when it comes to two characters with equally great feats titles mean nothing.