[VS] Whitebeard vs Akainu

[ToshiZO]

@ToshiZO the reason why Squardo's stab was more efficient was because WB was unprepared. The sneak attack caught him off-guard. In a fight against Akainu however, he'd be prepared, so even if he is defenseless, he could build up his body strength to endure attacks better and possibly even enhance it with armament shield or defense. Although you misunderstood my statement. I didn't say the damage was huge. It was just to say it wasn't as insignificant as some people like to claim especially in his state. It may have even be the trigger of his heart attack problems. Not saying he couldn't have had during a fight, but it may not have happen so fast and so often

Also, i never said that WB won't have heart attacks during fights. What i'm saying is that even with heart attacks, i see WB able to maneuvring his way to win due to his immense durability and the overall difference in their strength. He could even avoid lethal attacks if it comes down to it. What you forget is that WB only needs few hits at best to end Akainu when Akainu doesn't have that luxury. It's like Doflamingo-Law for example. Even with free shots, Law can't put him down because the difference in their level is that huge

In the war, he couldn't have afforded to go reckless because he had the entire marine to deal with, but in a 1 on 1 fight, nothing stops WB to buldoze through Akainu and at any point that WB would realize his heart problem could be an issue in the long run, he'd make sure to end the fight as soon as he gets the chance

WB cannot win this battle, he is not steamrolling Akainu like you are implying.

No rage mode and no cheapshot, funny thing is even despite those things Akainu arguably gave WB the worst injury in 1 hit than WB did in 2. So that argument doesn't work either.

@Zhoom
Sengoku hypes everybody why wouldn't he hype someone with the title of Worlds Strongest Man.

Could WB single handedly win the war? Lmao hell no....thats all that matters heck even the Red Hair Pirates would probably be defeated if they decided to take on the Marines AFTER already dealing with the WB pirates.

 

[-Akuma-]

WB cannot win this battle, he is not steamrolling Akainu like you are implying.

No rage mode and no cheapshot, funny thing is even despite those things Akainu arguably gave WB the worst injury in 1 hit than WB did in 2. So that argument doesn't work either.

@Zhoom
Sengoku hypes everybody why wouldn't he hype someone with the title of Worlds Strongest Man.

Could WB single handedly win the war? Lmao hell no....thats all that matters heck even the Red Hair Pirates would probably be defeated if they decided to take on the Marines AFTER already dealing with the WB pirates.

Again he doesn't hype scrubs, you're trying to say Sengoku's words isn't reliable because he hypes people who deserves it.

WB could of single handily ended the Marines there by sinking the HQ.

 

[ToshiZO]

Smh why do I have to keep repeating myself. The point is he hypes anyone any chance he gets...hes hyped the most people in OP. So lets ignore everything that actually happened and go with Sengoku's words lol?

That wasn't a war that was a one sided slaughterfest for the Marines Kizaru and Aokiji were virtually untouched, then they had Garp and Sengoku lol....it was a snoozefest for them.

 

[-Akuma-]

Smh why do I have to keep repeating myself. The point is he hypes anyone any chance he gets...hes hyped the most people in OP. So lets ignore everything that actually happened and go with Sengoku's words lol?

That wasn't a war that was a one sided slaughterfest for the Marines Kizaru and Aokiji were virtually untouched, then they had Garp and Sengoku lol....it was a snoozefest for them.

No you're downplay Sengoku's credibility by praising strong people, just because he hyped a lot of people doesn't discredit him. They have all been strong people.

Did you even read the second part lol.

 

[ToshiZO]

No you're downplay Sengoku's credibility by praising strong people, just because he hyped a lot of people doesn't discredit him. They have all been strong people.

Did you even read the second part lol.

Lmfao....dude if he is hyping Crocodile and Hancock you think he won't hype WB? Lmao come the **** on now.

Ignored that nonsense lmfao. He tried to engulf it the first time Aokiji stopped him. He got stopped by the walls encircling HQ....even Prime WB is not doing anything against the Marines with their personnel.

 

[-Akuma-]

Lmfao....dude if he is hyping Crocodile and Hancock you think he won't hype WB? Lmao come the **** on now.

Ignored that nonsense lmfao. He tried to engulf it the first time Aokiji stopped him. He got stopped by the walls encircling HQ....even Prime WB is not doing anything against the Marines with their personnel.

Both are Warlords and the hype WB got was much better pls stop reaching, it's sad.

You're retarded if you think that's nonsense, him sinking the HQ means him destroying, not causing a Tsunami to fall on it. But let me guess you're going to claim he can't next post huh. And Prime WB not doing anything against the Marines is a joke, especially if they approach him they same way as before.

 

[ToshiZO]

Smh I should neg you lol.

 

[-Akuma-]

Neg me, do it. You still wont be right.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Smh I should neg you lol.

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[ToshiZO]

Lets listen to Sengoku's words > looking at MF feats.

Solid argument.

Great debate.

 

[-Akuma-]

>Tries to use the fact that WB didn't cripple the Navy as an argument to why Akainu is stronger.

>Tries to downplay WB because he couldn't cripple the Navy when no crew in OP is doing that.

>Ignores obvious portrayal and hype along with good feats.

>Tries to discredit Sengoku's hype because he praises strong people.

Amazing argument

 

[Ripple Hole]

Ya know I get the feeling Prime Akainu could Mid/High Dif Prime WB.
All the guy did was slam his magma fist at WB, quickly at that, even though he's
shown he's capable of making giant molten structures, one even imitating
a fist.

 

[ToshiZO]

>Tries to use the fact that WB didn't cripple the Navy as an argument to why Akainu is stronger.

>Tries to downplay WB because he couldn't cripple the Navy when no crew in OP is doing that.

>Ignores obvious portrayal and hype along with good feats.

>Tries to discredit Sengoku's hype because he praises strong people.

Amazing argument

Nope

Nope

Learn to read. Those were your arguments not mine, I simply exposed those arguments.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

Whitebeard takes this high diff

 

[A v i]

I can see it going either way without the possibility of Whitebeard becoming vulnerable with external factors such as chest pain or else Akainu wins this very high-extreme dif.

How does one build up their body strength? How does one make their flesh weaker than five minutes and then stronger five minutes ago? I assume you aren't talking about using Haki, since you said "build up body strength."

WB has shown that he has immense endurance, being able to fight through damage taken from Akainu blowing away his body parts, but that still means his body parts can be blown away. Akainu can strike areas like his knees or elbows, crippling him. No matter how much energy and stamina WB may have to fight through damage, that means nothing when the damage Akainu can give can remove limbs with one strike.

It's about the level of resistance you offer. If you know someone is attacking you then you usually try to resist it by tightening your muscles or something but it can't be done if you're caught off guard or when you do not have enough time to react in time.So, you can't use as much resistance as you'd normally offer in which case the damage taken would be more.

WB cannot win this battle, he is not steamrolling Akainu like you are implying.

No rage mode and no cheapshot, funny thing is even despite those things Akainu arguably gave WB the worst injury in 1 hit than WB did in 2. So that argument doesn't work either.

Isn't that because Whitebeard couldn't offer any defense when Akainu likely protected his ass with haki? I doubt he could tank two consecutive hits from Wb without putting up any defense.

 

[LBeezy]

Can you tell me why you disagree? Surely you don't think Akainu can't deal as much damage as Squardos stab. For the record I fanboy no character in OP I have no favourite. Akainu is getting seriously underrated here. An old, unhealthy WB cannot defeat an admiral or the admirals at the time are complete weaklings compared to WB in his prime. Let me ask the WB supporters what diff do you think WB at Marineford would lose against prime WB?

You're right. I sure as heck don't think Squardos damage is anywhere even remotely close to Akainu's damage. This is true.. however it's the sneak attack / back-stab of an ally that Whitebeard even got injured in the first place. So I think that if a Fresh Akainu vs Fresh WB match up happens, I don't see WB getting hit by Akainu the same way Squardo got him. I see WB being much more offensive and defensive at the same time, playing it smart, yet dealing massive damage to Akainu as quickly as possible.

So imo... even IF WB were to have a heart attack at ANY point in this hypothetical fight, I simply see it being AFTER WB has significantly damaged Akainu as well. Or even already won. Hence even IF a heart attack occurred, whether it be caused by Akainu's damage dealt or not, I don't see Akainu even being able to take advantage of it as well as he did in MF.


As for your WB prime vs WB at MF question? I honestly have no clue.. obviously prime WB wins, but at what difficulty idek... your guess is as good as mine to tell you the truth. Lol

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Again he doesn't hype scrubs, you're trying to say Sengoku's words isn't reliable because he hypes people who deserves it.

WB could of single handily ended the Marines there by sinking the HQ.

And killing Ace, himself and his DF allies in the process. Aokiji can use his powers to stay above the water, Kizaru can fly, Garp can swim, most of the VAs are non-DF users while only Marco and Vista can fight.

 

[-Akuma-]

Nope

Nope

Learn to read. Those were your arguments not mine, I simply exposed those arguments.

I bought up Sengoku then you brought up the nonsense saying his opinion wasn't valid because he praised strong characters.

I said he could of sunken Marine Ford if he wanted to then you started bringing up the fact he didn't cripple the Navy.

You literally repeated the same garbage all the way through, while also reaching to extreme measures to try and prove your points.

 

[-Akuma-]

And killing Ace, himself and his DF allies in the process. Aokiji can use his powers to stay above the water, Kizaru can fly, Garp can swim, most of the VAs are non-DF users while only Marco and Vista can fight.

Is that the point? I said he could of and that COULD of ****ed up the navy a lot, he obviously didn't for the reasons above.

 

[A v i]

And killing Ace, himself and his DF allies in the process. Aokiji can use his powers to stay above the water, Kizaru can fly, Garp can swim, most of the VAs are non-DF users while only Marco and Vista can fight.

There is no need to swim. Most of the marines "Especially the top tiers" can use Geppo. Lmao