[Discussion] Whitebeard > Kaido

[TRE MERCER]

He knocked Akainu down a crevice and was sent underground. WB didn't cripple him because he didn't chase after him. MF WB> Kaido MF WB>Shanks. You just said otherwise without any solid hype or feats to back your shit up. Whitebeard's title stuck with him because nobody managed to take it from him, even someone as knowledgeable as Sengoku still recognized him as the strongest and pretty much everyone did when they mentioned him in regards to power. Don't go around throwing assumptions as fact.

Whitebeard still failed to cripple him and if Whitebeard would have went after Akainu he still would have died end of story. Whitebeard gave it his all against Akainu and especially with that last punch. There is literally nothing more he could have done to further damage Akainu so even if he would have went after him WB would have been killed. Nothing suggest Marineford WB can defeat Kaido. If you believe so please explain to me.

Whitebeard bloodlusted attack on Akainu only put him down for a short time Akainu was still able to fight off top tiers such a Marco. If Kaido was attack with WB Bloodlusted assault he would have been have been even less damaged than Akainu. Kaido tanks WB bloodlusted assault and proceed to beat the old man until he dies. Oda said himself Kaido can't lose a 1 on 1.

Roger would have the title of 'Strongest Pirate' because him and WB were the 'Strongest Pirates' if he was beat he would have lost the title, WB was not beat so he never lost the title.

My point if Roger was still alive he'd still be known as the strongest Pirate even though that wouldn't be true due to his old age.

WB was just that much above his peers.

You got WB d*ck so far down your throat if you fart on a girls lap you'd get her prenant.

 

[YellowFang]

That's quite obvious...

Kaido wouldn't have been building strength if he was already the strongest. And current Yonko have quite an age-gap with WB, I doubt they're such bigshots when WB was kicking real @ss...

 

[Bogard]

MS translations isn't good.

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It says the same thing "ひげ+さえも" = "And even Whitebeard"

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

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It says the same thing "ひげ+さえも" = "And even Whitebeard"

Shht Kaido fanboys will get crazy

 

[Punk Hazard]

Shht Kaido fanboys will get crazy

Not really. A lot of people still associated WB's reputation from his prime to his elder years. Because he was a major figure from Roger's era, which is considered the golden era of piracy iirc, that reputation carries a lot with it, at least until a Pirate King of this era is crowned and it blossoms fully.

 

[Souji]

Whitebeard was undoubtedly the most influential and pivotal Yonko pre-timeskip. It was only after his death that the Yonkos really began competing with each other for the PK title, so it can even be argued that it tipped the scales that severely. I like to imagine that Whitebeard was (maybe unknowingly) defending the empty seat. There's no doubt that he could've taken the title for himself if he wanted, but chose not to (I think this was mentioned somewhere along the line).

Big Mama's statement here seems not only to have an implied difference in influence and capital, but power as well. So while we can argue about 'all Yonkos are equal' or 'MF WB was weak' or whatever, he was still on his own level. He perfectly acknowledged his flaws and failing strength, but still backed up his talk through his actions.

 

[-Akuma-]

Whitebeard still failed to cripple him and if Whitebeard would have went after Akainu he still would have died end of story. Whitebeard gave it his all against Akainu and especially with that last punch. There is literally nothing more he could have done to further damage Akainu so even if he would have went after him WB would have been killed. Nothing suggest Marineford WB can defeat Kaido. If you believe so please explain to me.[/QOUTE]

Irrelevant, WB didn't kill Akainu because he left after he fell down. WB might of died if he went after Akainu but not because of Akainu, at that point WB would've died regardless. Nothing much more he would do to damage him? So a quake fist would not have affected Akainu at this point? LMAOOOO

You also say nothing implied WB can beat Kaido? WB was literally said to be the strongest MAN MULTIPLE TIMES, that alone puts his above Kaido. And don't even bring up Kaido's title because we only saw that after WB had bitten then dust.

Whitebeard bloodlusted attack on Akainu only put him down for a short time Akainu was still able to fight off top tiers such a Marco. If Kaido was attack with WB Bloodlusted assault he would have been have been even less damaged than Akainu. Kaido tanks WB bloodlusted assault and proceed to beat the old man until he dies. Oda said himself Kaido can't lose a 1 on 1.

And? Once or two clean blows was enough to put Akainu out of commission, he would've died if the fight conitued. As for him fighting Maraco? Akainu has half of the Marines to back him up:

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The rest of your post is baseless dribble.

My point if Roger was still alive he'd still be known as the strongest Pirate even though that wouldn't be true due to his old age.

No, he would've been known as the Strongest Pirate if he continued to be the strongest pirate. If ROGER WERE TO LOSE HE WOULD LOSE HIS TITLE.

The majority of your post is your shitty opinion trying to be pushed on like fact.

 

[arv993]

Not really. A lot of people still associated WB's reputation from his prime to his elder years. Because he was a major figure from Roger's era, which is considered the golden era of piracy iirc, that reputation carries a lot with it, at least until a Pirate King of this era is crowned and it blossoms fully.

Wrong. BM isn't a lot of ppl she has connections everywhere and as a yonko can get Intel on her enemies as showcased recently. She knew who was top dog and out of them it was Wb. She even mentions long ago meaning not when he was older and weaker, ppl in middle age aren't weak in one piece example akainu etc. Even is put in there for a reason wb was considered the biggest threat and rightfully so.

 

[ToshiZO]

What's the issue here? She said "long ago" according to MS. Which can mean plenty of years back when WB was healthier and the others might not have been as powerful.

There are no contradictions here.

 

[LBeezy]

What's the issue here? She said "long ago" according to MS. Which can mean plenty of years back when WB was healthier and the others might not have been as powerful.

There are no contradictions here.

Pretty much this.

I mean it's not like she's talking about the current WB.. (who's dead) lol

So like ToshiZO said, there isn't really any contradictions or problems with Big Mom's statement.

 

[ToshiZO]

Pretty much this.

I mean it's not like she's talking about the current WB.. (who's dead) lol

So like ToshiZO said, there isn't really any contradictions or problems with Big Mom's statement.

Exactly, she's not talking about that washed up corpse that showed up at MF.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Even kaido knew that Whitebeard is stronger so no suprise here. The fact that he tried to attack him when he was knocking on deaths door means a lot as well. His devil fruit too was already too haxx that it gave a man a title from shichibakui to yonkou before you knew it.

 

[bajram]

Its always been WB > any other Yonko as stated by the writer a shitton of times whether that was from different manga characters or via titles/announcements, of course there are the wankers who dont think so but all their reasons for it are based in an Utopia where "if" is actually a thing, so yeah they are pretty much irrelevant.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Not really. A lot of people still associated WB's reputation from his prime to his elder years. Because he was a major figure from Roger's era, which is considered the golden era of piracy iirc, that reputation carries a lot with it, at least until a Pirate King of this era is crowned and it blossoms fully.

This is what people fail to realize. When people talk about WB power there not referring to Marineford WB there talking about his prime. So when she's says even WB she's referring to him when he was actually the strongest Yonko back in his Prime.

 

[TRE MERCER]

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This guy LMAO.

So answer me how does Marineford Whitebeard take out current Kaido?

 

[ToshiZO]

Its always been WB > any other Yonko as stated by the writer a shitton of times whether that was from different manga characters or via titles/announcements, of course there are the wankers who dont think so but all their reasons for it are based in an Utopia where "if" is actually a thing, so yeah they are pretty much irrelevant.

The writer also wrote MF where it was stated countless times, he wasn't the same man who recieved the title. But I guess you all forgot how to read and interpret basic literature.

This guy LMAO.

So answer me how does Marineford Whitebeard take out current Kaido?

I'm being dead serious here, I'd be surprised if MF WB can even push Kaido to high difficulty.

 

[-Akuma-]

This guy LMAO.

So answer me how does Marineford Whitebeard take out current Kaido?

Yes.

Nice retort.

The writer also wrote MF where it was stated countless times, he wasn't the same man who recieved the title. But I guess you all forgot how to read and interpret basic literature.




I'm being dead serious here, I'd be surprised if MF WB can even push Kaido to high difficulty.

Nothing said he wasn't the strongest anymore, the only thing that was STATED was that WB declined.