White Supremacists shoot at protesters after Richard Spencer speech.

[Goetia]

You can disagree all you want without making a childish commotion over it.



Suffer in silence over what? They aren't being oppressed. Nobody is attacking them.



You're the one doing that. In your first post you basically said when someone is preaching garbage their speech don't matter. Well... You didn't say that exactly but that's what it conveyed.



Oh please, don't try to switch it around.

There's nothing childish about protesting or wanting your voice heard. The only time somebody's opinion should be silenced is when they're trying to say dumb shit that doesn't help anybody in the grand scheme. Its like if somebody went out and tried to convince people with a megaphone that all jews should be burnt at the stake. Those kinds of opinions should be silenced. Why? Because it doesn't actually help anybody. It just gives scumbags of humanity a self of fulfillment.

What you're doing is oppressing protestors by saying they shouldn't be protesting?

Nope, nice try, again.

Dumb...

Its on you to argue against my post. Which you failed to do, somehow.

 

[Fountain]

I'm watching "Richard Spencer Speech at University of Florida". The audience (university students) look stupid. They kill any chance for debate, to clear misunderstanding thoughts between two groups. I feel a shamed to be born as a human. I wished I was a wolf.

I feel you.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

There's nothing childish about protesting or wanting your voice heard. The only time somebody's opinion should be silenced is when they're trying to say dumb shit that doesn't help anybody in the grand scheme. Its like if somebody went out and tried to convince people with a megaphone that all jews should be burnt at the stake. Those kinds of opinions should be silenced. Why? Because it doesn't actually help anybody. It just gives scumbags of humanity a self of fulfillment.

What you're doing is oppressing protestors by saying they shouldn't be protesting?



Its on you to argue against my post. Which you failed to do, somehow.

There's no argument. What you've said is simply untrue. What is there to say.

Arguing with a liar that sounds like he's reading straight off of a script, is simply disappointing. It's like your rehearsing things.

 

[Goetia]

There's no argument. What you've said is simply untrue. What is there to say.

Arguing with a liar that sounds like he's reading straight off of a script, is simply disappointing. It's like your rehearsing things.

You have to tell me what's wrong with my reasoning, since I've argued against yours. Is there something fundamentally wrong with voicing disagreement with somebody's point of view? So long as the conversation is going to be intelligent and productive, that is.

 

[Fountain]

There's nothing childish about protesting or wanting your voice heard.

Nothing except absolutely everything. They could've had a legitimate protest over something important and meaningful instead of whatever is it they're trying to achieve with their hate, trying to silence people and their ridiculous chants and anti-white signs.

The only time somebody's opinion should be silenced is when they're trying to say dumb shit that doesn't help anybody in the grand scheme.

Oh wow... Look. You just said this>

The first amendment of your own constitution protects the right to free speech, and you're telling me that they shouldn't be able to exercise that right?

And you called me a hypocrite.

Its like if somebody went out and tried to convince people with a megaphone that all jews should be burnt at the stake. Those kinds of opinions should be silenced. Why? Because it doesn't actually help anybody. It just gives scumbags of humanity a self of fulfillment.

But nobody is yelling through a megaphone to burn jews right? so.

What you're doing is oppressing protestors by saying they shouldn't be protesting?

Oppressing protesters by saying they shouldn't be protesting? How does that even make any sense? No. What i'm saying is they are incredibly stupid, disrespectful, and if they knew better they wouldn't have gone there to "protest".

 

[Dreckerplayer]

You have to tell me what's wrong with my reasoning, since I've argued against yours. Is there something fundamentally wrong with voicing disagreement with somebody's point of view? So long as the conversation is going to be intelligent and productive, that is.

You need to know...that I don't care that much.

I'm not some pompous nerd debator that follows these "Argument guidelines/fundamentals"...there are no RULES.

I simply say what I say, and/or either ignore what I think is absurd or just doesn't concern me. I don't stress importance in arguments or entitle myself to doing it. I don't argue as some sort of sport or hobbie...I just have an answer.

If something doesn't deserve what you think is an appropriate argument, i may or may not address it. Why would I entertain BS?

 

[Lightbringer]

But nobody is yelling through a megaphone to burn jews right? so.

Just wanted to point out that during the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally, they were chanting "Jews will not replace us." Richard Spencer himself in his own words advocates eugenics.

And also within that rally and other right-wing rallies, we see Nazi regalia which the symbolism itself is effectively calling for the ethnic cleansing and the death or oppression of millions.

Maybe they're not advocating to "burn" specifically, but these people are definitely advocating to get rid of Jews and they've already demonstrated violence and murder.

Just sayin.

 

[Fountain]

Just wanted to point out that during the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally, they were chanting "Jews will not replace us." Richard Spencer himself in his own words advocates eugenics.

I don't see how that equates to yelling through a megaphone to burn jews at the stake.

And also within that rally and other right-wing rallies, we see Nazi regalia the symbolism itself is effectively calling for the ethnic cleansing and the death or oppression of millions.

Maybe they're not advocating to "burn" specifically, but these people are definitely advocating to get rid of Jews.

Just sayin.

You want to talk about the Charlottesville Nazis? You do realize that was a group and not everyone there was a "Nazi" right? And you do realize there were also other idiots picking fights with them right? It was a complete mess. This is different.

 

[Belserion]

Wow this Wicke guy really is a nazi lol

 

[Lightbringer]

I don't see how that equates to yelling through a megaphone to burn jews at the stake.



You want to talk about the Charlottesville Nazis? You do realize that was a group and not everyone there was a "Nazi" right? And you do realize there were also other idiots picking fights with them right? It was a complete mess. This is different.

They were chanting "Jews will not replace us," "Blood and Soil," and other Nazi slogans.

They had Nazi and Confederate regalia.

Everyone there chose to march with them after seeing and hearing what they represented.

 

[Goetia]

Nothing except absolutely everything. They could've had a legitimate protest over something important and meaningful instead of whatever is it they're trying to achieve with their hate, trying to silence people and their ridiculous chants and anti-white signs.

Oh wow... Look. You just said this>

And you called me a hypocrite.

But nobody is yelling through a megaphone to burn jews right? so.

Oppressing protesters by saying they shouldn't be protesting? How does that even make any sense? No. What i'm saying is they are incredibly stupid, disrespectful, and if they knew better they wouldn't have gone there to "protest".

If there is something to be protested, that people believe is worth protesting, then it is within their right to protest. So long as the issue is something that warrants the reaction, and the discourse is intelligent. If its not intelligent though, then it shouldn't happen at all.

I'm trying to establish equivalence to help you understand what I'm trying to say. If you're going to play dumb in response to basic talking points, then just tell me and we'll stop talking.

You need to know...that I don't care that much.

I'm not some pompous nerd debator that follows these "Argument guidelines/fundamentals"...there are no RULES.

I simply say what I say, and/or either ignore what I think is absurd or just doesn't concern me. I don't stress importance in arguments or entitle myself to doing it. I don't argue as some sort of sport or hobbie...I just have an answer.

If something doesn't deserve what you think is an appropriate argument, i may or may not address it. Why would I entertain BS?

Its not about being able to debate, or be professional. Its just a basic concept of conversation. You're trying to hide in your own bubble of denial because you don't like the idea of challenge. When someone questions your "answer", its up to you to prove your answer holds weight. If you don't, it means nothing. Which, in this, holds true for you. As things stand, what you think means little because you have nothing to substantiate it.

Its not that hard to tell when something is deserving of attention. At least Wicke is giving me something to work with, its a decent conversation. You're just being difficult and playing it off as being the higher intellect.

 

[Fountain]

They were chanting "Jews will not replace us," "Blood and Soil," and other Nazi slogans.

They had Nazi and Confederate regalia.

I know that, i saw the videos. What does that have to do with the recent Richard Spencer speech and protesters?

Everyone there chose to march with them after seeing and hearing what they represented.

So therefore they were all just Nazis then?

And great now i'm the one asking questions... I must be starting to lose brain cells.

 

[Lightbringer]

I know that, i saw the videos. What does that have to do with the recent Richard Spencer speech and protesters?

So therefore they were all just Nazis then?

And great now i'm the one asking questions... I must be starting to lose brain cells.

If they chose to march with them and preach their slogans, then yeah that would make them Nazis by default.

 

[Fountain]

If they chose to march with them and preach their slogans, then yeah that would make them Nazis by default.

So they were all Nazis? Okay.

By the way, there's no such thing as Nazis. Only fools who aspire to be like them and other fools who still belive in them in 2017.

 

[Lightbringer]

So they were all Nazis? Okay.

Correct. They chose to march with them; they recited their slogans; they accepted their ideology.

By the way, there's no such thing as Nazis. Only fools who aspire to be like them and other fools who still belive in them in 2017.

You're presenting a red herring.

 

[Fountain]

Wow this Wicke guy really is a nazi lol

Oh yeah, the biggest. I'm a descendant of Hitler himself.

 

[Fountain]

Correct. They chose to march with them; they recited their slogans; they accepted their ideology.

Right. Nevermind that they all had their own reasons to be there.

You're presenting a red herring.

?

Anyways, i think we're pretty much done here. We're done with the protests and now we're talking about Nazis.

 

[Lightbringer]

Right. Nevermind that they all had their own reasons to be there.

I don't see how you're not comprehending this.

If you go to a protest with the intention of just observing, and they start chanting, and you join in and start marching and chanting with them, then you are part of that protest. You are part of that group because you've accepted their cause and message.

 

[jamarcusp17]

Heeeey, about the time something would happen that includes white supremacists. Been a long time since you post an article from a website like washingtonpost. Been a lot happening lately but you only do this when it comes to white people Color me surprised.

You wanna know what i think? I don't care. If they were smarter they wouldn't go there to "protest" and possibly get shot. These degenerate's definition of love is hate, censorship, antifa, violence, and calling anyone they disagree with a Nazi. They are complete hypocrites and if they hate Richard Spencer so much because he's a racist or w/e they shouldn't be there at all to begin with giving him more notoriety. **** them.

It’s okay to believe what you believe. And don’t let anyone tell you it isn’t. But it is important for you to know that you’re on the wrong side of this fight. Even if not today, justice for the meek will always prevail. It is because of the protests decades ago with Martin Luther King Jr. and so many others that black people are more free today than ever. It is because of their protesting that slaves from the past now have the justice they deserved hundreds of years ago. It will be the protesters of today’s strife that causes future generations of blacks and other people of different races, religions, gender, etc. to be more free than we are now, than those who were restrained decades ago, than those who were in shackles centuries ago.

So go ahead. Believe that white supremacists are right for organizing in their fashion and that blacks are wrong for their organization. Just know that you are on the wrong side and will go down in history as the one who condoned white supremacy and condemned lawful, legal, and much-needed protesting. Don’t let anyone tell you what you shouldn’t believe, because this is America, land of the free.

 

[Fountain]

It’s okay to believe what you believe. And don’t let anyone tell you it isn’t. But it is important for you to know that you’re on the wrong side of this fight. Even if not today, justice for the meek will always prevail. It is because of the protests decades ago with Martin Luther King Jr. and so many others that black people are more free today than ever. It is because of their protesting that slaves from the past now have the justice they deserved hundreds of years ago. It will be the protesters of today’s strife that causes future generations of blacks and other people of different races, religions, gender, etc. to be more free than we are now, than those who were restrained decades ago, than those who were in shackles centuries ago.

So go ahead. Believe that white supremacists are right for organizing in their fashion and that blacks are wrong for their organization. Just know that you are on the wrong side and will go down in history as the one who condoned white supremacy and condemned lawful, legal, and much-needed protesting. Don’t let anyone tell you what you shouldn’t believe, because this is America, land of the free.

Martin Luther King is rolling in his grave right now. No doubt if he was still alive today he would be among the first to be called a racist or uncle tom, because he had passion, respect, and fought for real equality in a time where racism was prominent. There is no excuse for any of these entitled protesting punks who think they are oppressed or deserve more rights than others and want to get everything their way.