ThisNaruto war arc, while he mastered SM in the pain arc there's no way he's on Jiraiya's level in any combat capacity at that point. With BM he's at a level where jiraiya with SM can't really compete.
Sakura war arc was able to tank and counter JJ Madara's TSB rods, tank a point blank limbo and fuel Obito's dimensional travel. She was the reason Kaguya with her KKM fuled movements was knocked back into the path of the fuinn jutsu for sealing.
Sasuke armless Orochimaru as Hebi Sasuke but an Orochimaru with arms probably on the acquisition of MS/EMS.
/Thread.Naruto sm, Sasuke with Ms, Sakura hasn’t(as far as actual feats go). She performed no actions Tsunade couldn’t have accomplished or even do better at.
And how is any version of Naruto below RSM beating all 4 Kages+Oro?Naruto and Sakura--->War arc.
Rinnegan Sasuke for Oro, because Sasuke ain't defeating the 4 hokages + Oro at the same time with just an EMS.![]()
OP literally said:And how is any version of Naruto below RSM beating all 4 Kages+Oro?
I thought KCM-Naruto surpassed Jiraiya personally. Not saying Jiraiya is weak but KCM Naruto was outright broken with it's clones and rasengan variants + Rasenshuriken. Even with Experience I can't see Jiraiya taking on 2-3 KCM Clones + OriginalNaruto war arc, while he mastered SM in the pain arc there's no way he's on Jiraiya's level in any combat capacity at that point. With BM he's at a level where jiraiya with SM can't really compete.
Sakura war arc was able to tank and counter JJ Madara's TSB rods, tank a point blank limbo and fuel Obito's dimensional travel. She was the reason Kaguya with her KKM fuled movements was knocked back into the path of the fuinn jutsu for sealing.
Sasuke armless Orochimaru as Hebi Sasuke but an Orochimaru with arms probably on the acquisition of MS/EMS.
XDSasuke after part 1
I'll have to disagree Jiraiya has senjutsu and two toad sages who he has synergy with to back him up. At KCM Naruto still had to worry about Kurama. Then he also has to worry about their combo attacks even with clones. Rasengan variants wont help him much against them. Naruto with KCM couldn't really tag the 3rd Raikage who was being controlled and was forced to rely on SM for it's superior sensory abilities. Jiraiya has the very same abilities and the two sages assisting him.I thought KCM-Naruto surpassed Jiraiya personally. Not saying Jiraiya is weak but KCM Naruto was outright broken with it's clones and rasengan variants + Rasenshuriken. Even with Experience I can't see Jiraiya taking on 2-3 KCM Clones + Original
You're underrating 3 tomoe Hebi Sasuke, he has access to Orochimaru's jutsu + the curse mark to amp the strength of his 3 tomoe genjutsu. It's more than enough to deal with armless Orochimaru his intentions of wanting or not wanting Sasuke's body have no bearing on it. For an Orochimaru with arms who has access to a plethora of jutsu and Edo, I dont see Hebi Sasuke dealing with them. The only one who can is MS Sasuke if we're being generous to Sasuke but defintiely EMS Sasuke.Agree with Sakura
For me its hard to say considering armless Orochimaru never had intentions to kill Sasuke only capture which is much harder. While Hebi Sasuke was powerful I really think if Orochimaru wasn't weak from his host rejecting him and had killing intent he could have pressured and/or defeated MS Sasuke in armless state. With arms maybe even take out EMS Sasuke considering Kabuto's research on countering Sharingan. Speculation but its possible Kabuto simply continued Orochimaru's research rather than developing his own.