Which Katon is Stronger?

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Madara is the strongest Katon user. And he is also the strongest Uchiha in history, although that may change with Sasuke when he gets his next BS power-up.
 

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I think both of them are equals as fire technique. But the more unique one is Obito's, combined with Kamui.
 

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Madara is the strongest Katon user. And he is also the strongest Uchiha in history, although that may change with Sasuke when he gets his next BS power-up.
How can you beat.. a person you can't touch? Madara has nothing on Obito, we all know that.

It's going to be fun when Obito is the Jinchuuriki
 

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How can you beat.. a person you can't touch? Madara has nothing on Obito, we all know that.

It's going to be fun when Obito is the Jinchuuriki

Isn't Madara the one who taught him? The one who has been watching him progress? The master always keeps a few secrets for himself. >_O
 

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Isn't Madara the one who taught him? The one who has been watching him progress? The master always keeps a few secrets for himself. >_O
There is no student or master, Madara taught him everything to make the plan go right. So in fact, they are pretty equals - only difference is;

Madara: Susanoo
Obito: Kamui

And susanoo cannot touch Obito, so all Obito can do is teleport behind him and suck him. K.O
 

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How can you beat.. a person you can't touch? Madara has nothing on Obito, we all know that.

It's going to be fun when Obito is the Jinchuuriki

You can touch Obito. He materialises when he attacks. You can hit him then. Minato and Kakashi both proved that.

Madara in his prime had all of OP EMS techniques, Perfect Susano'o, and Kurama, in his full form, who has been shown to be as strong, if not stronger, than 5 bijuu put together.
 

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Lol, no.

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That's Obito's Bakufu Rambu and Madara's Gouka Mekkyaku. They are the same exact size.

OP is asking which one is stronger but they are equal. Madara's Gouka Messhitsu is the strongest one.

Can you prove that those are the same jutsus from the pictures in the OP?

They could easily be stronger katon techs than the first ones shown. However as you can clearly see in the OP's pictures, obito's katon is nowhere near as wide as madara's. So judging by the pictures he provided, im still going to say that madara's is stronger.
 

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Isn't Madara the one who taught him? The one who has been watching him progress? The master always keeps a few secrets for himself. >_O
There is no student or master, Madara taught him everything to make the plan go right. So in fact, they are pretty equals - only difference is;

Madara: Susanoo
Obito: Kamui

And susanoo cannot touch Obito, so all Obito can do is teleport behind him and suck him. K.O

Edit: I wonder what power you will gain as Juubi's jinchuuriki.

Where's Sasuke?

Enton > Katon U_U

Sasuke > Obito
Sasuke > Madara
Enton is a kekkei genkai, we are talking about fire techniques - and Obito and Madara are best at fire obviously. But enton > fire that is right
 

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Can you prove that those are the same jutsus from the pictures in the OP?

They could easily be stronger katon techs than the first ones shown. However as you can clearly see in the OP's pictures, obito's katon is nowhere near as wide as madara's. So judging by the pictures he provided, im still going to say that madara's is stronger.

Why yes I can....



Obito: "Bakufu Rambu"

Madara: "Gouka Mekkyaku"

And since when did wideness=strength? Its overall size that equals strength.
 

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Why yes I can....



Obito: "Bakufu Rambu"

Madara: "Gouka Mekkyaku"

Okay well I guess they are equal then, no sense arguing with the manga.... Lol.

And since when did wideness=strength? Its overall size that equals strength.

Of course a bigger fire is going to be a stronger one, widness = size though. I was merely judging based on the fact that in the pictures madara's fire covered an enormous area, as opposed to obito's.
 

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Okay well I guess they are equal then, no sense arguing with the manga.... Lol.



Of course a bigger fire is going to be a stronger one, widness = size & size = strength. I was merely judging based on the fact that in the pictures madara's fire covered an enormous area, as opposed to obito's.

Wideness isn't the only aspect of size. There's still depth and length.
 

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madara has the strongest katon. he is legendary...
 

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There is no student or master, Madara taught him everything to make the plan go right. So in fact, they are pretty equals - only difference is;

Madara: Susanoo
Obito: Kamui

And susanoo cannot touch Obito, so all Obito can do is teleport behind him and suck him. K.O

You say he taught him what was essential to the plan. By teaching someone anything...wouldn't that mean, if even for a brief moment mean that, that person is the master, teacher, sensei? If you were to teach me wouldn't that establish a hierarchy between us? With you being above me, as in my superior? Idk I'm just rambling in my stupidity.:mad:_@: I suppose you are right! :win:
 
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