Which is more logical? Madara's Empty Eyesocket Susanoo or Sage Mode Minato? WHY?

[Ginn Uchiha]

Madara's was more logical. Apparently used Kamui b4 attaining MS and its possible that there things we don't know about susanoo seeing how its not an ability that comes directly from the eyes

Ummm... What?

 

[Chīkara]

Lol at this kid who neg-repped me because I never have ''arguments'' I fully explained
why Sennin Modó was just a random asspull in another thread SMH.

 

[ANiMUS]

Ummm... What?

I added more too:snick:
But what r u confused about?

 

[Liquid Snake]

minato sm makes more sense he already trained with jiraiya he the frogd even stated naruto reminded them of "those two" which was most likely jiraiya and minato i dnt understand how madara can use susanoo with jus the rinnegan when its not a sharigan and sense nagato had both his eyes why couldnt he use any uchiha eye techniques

 

[Deadai]

Based on this logic Sasuke should be able to use sennin modo.

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Sasuke already had the Curse Mark I cannot see it going along side well with SM.
probably the reason Orochimaru never trained him in it.

 

[Ginn Uchiha]

I added more too:snick:
But what r u confused about?

Ahh just noticed that. It is a technique usable when you unlock the potential I'm both eyes. It is an eye tech. However, perhaps it's usable once it is unlocked? Or maybe just because his evolved into rinnengan?

 

[ANiMUS]

Sasuke already had the Curse Mark I cannot see it going along side well with SM.
probably the reason Orochimaru never trained him in it.

If you were planning to take over someone, would you try to make them stronger than u r?

 

[Deadai]

If you were planning to take over someone, would you try to make them stronger than u r?

This also makes some sense, I believe Orochimaru would have some deal of trouble taking over Sasukes body if he had learned SM. Other then this there are a number of reasons it doesn't work with Orochimaru & Sasuke.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Both are illogical but atleast Kishi can provide a good retcon for why Minato did'nt use SM when it was really needed.

 

[Chīkara]

Sasuke already had the Curse Mark I cannot see it going along side well with SM.
probably the reason Orochimaru never trained him in it.

Well, curse mark was basically to prepare Sasuke
for the rychido sennin modo.

''Orochimaru learned senjutsu but was unable to use Sage Mode because his host bodies were not strong enough to support this power. Stemming from this and his experiments with Jūgo's unique ability, however, he was able to create his own brand of unique cursed seals.''

He was preparing Sasuke, because since Sasuke was able to hold the curse mode he had the perfect body, sadly he failed
later on Kabuto succeeded.

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[Vetox]

No eyes Susanoo makes no sense. SM Minato makes no sense as well. Kishi just dreamt of those two things 5 mins before writing those episodes.

 

[Bronze]

Madara is more logical, as Itachi used it without eyes. Minato isn't, as he would have used it against Juubito, but didn't.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Madara is more logical, as Itachi used it without eyes. Minato isn't, as he would have used it against Juubito, but didn't.

Itachi still had his eyeballs,Madara did not.

 

[Deadai]

Well, curse mark was basically to prepare Sasuke
for the rychido sennin modo.

''Orochimaru learned senjutsu but was unable to use Sage Mode because his host bodies were not strong enough to support this power. Stemming from this and his experiments with Jūgo's unique ability, however, he was able to create his own brand of unique cursed seals.''

He was preparing Sasuke, because since Sasuke was able to hold the curse mode he had the perfect body, sadly he failed
later on Kabuto succeeded.

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I believe if Orochimaru wanted SM that badly he would have simply taken Sasuke's body first and after words fully learned SM with his new healthy body.

Like the comment above Sasuke would have been a great deal tougher to taken control of if Orochimaru had taught Sasuke SM prior to taking over his body.

 

[Chīkara]

Itachi still had his eyeballs,Madara did not.

Unlike Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, Susano'o is not focussed on the eye.

''Sasuke described it as feeling pain in every cell in his body which only grew from prolonged use.''

''Susanoo is formed through the materialisation of the user's chakra and as such differs in appearance as well as colour between users.''

It doesn't build up from the eye Like Izanagi,Izanami,Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi so once you learned the jutsu a eye is not required.

 

[Legitimate]

Madara is more logical, as Itachi used it without eyes. Minato isn't, as he would have used it against Juubito, but didn't.

Itachi still had his eyes in his eyesocket while Madara's eyesocket is empty. EMPTY.

 

[ANiMUS]

Ahh just noticed that. It is a technique usable when you unlock the potential I'm both eyes. It is an eye tech. However, perhaps it's usable once it is unlocked? Or maybe just because his evolved into rinnengan?

Well, all the other techniques required eye contact, and even obito when he sucks in objects the center of the technique is the eye, however Susanoo required no eye contact or even focus on the eye, Thats why after it became unlocked it was only our assumption that u needed eyes. Also its possible that not relying on eyes is an ems trait

 

[Bronze]

Itachi still had his eyeballs,Madara did not.

Doesn't matter. He still used it without MS.

 

[ShiroShonen]

SM Minato makes more sense
Like c'mon he had toad summonings and was Jiraiya's pupil

 

[Bronze]

Itachi still had his eyes in his eyesocket while Madara's eyesocket is empty. EMPTY.

Doesn't matter. He still used it without MS.