Which is harder to master?

[Exaar]

Tsunade or Sakura could easily master the elements due to their perfect chakra control[/B].

Yet for all of tsunades chakra controll, After what 30-40 Years of her life being a shinobi, She has shown the ability to use one and only one elemental jutsu.

 

[ThatOfLegend]

My logic would be as follows.

1. Only one ninja has ever mastered all five elements. (Two if So6P did as well)
2. If anyone was capable of it, then more than one would have this feat (not saying it's not possible, I just think that the years of training would surpass most Ninja's lifetimes)
3.This is MASTERYnot being able to use all, otherwise Kakashi would be worshipped on the base, and Hiruzen not so much.

On the other hand...

1. Only two ninja have mastered Yin seal Tsunade and Sakura.
2. Tsunade created Yin seal though, so I think that if the technique was more widely known there would atleast a few more users (ie: Kabuto due to Sage/medical mastery)
3. Shizune is a top tier medical kunoichi, she still couldn't master the technique.

Conclusion: In my opinion, 5 elements takes this HIGH difficulty.

 

[Exaar]

2. Tsunade created Yin seal though, so I think that if the technique was more widely known there would atleast a few more users (ie: Kabuto due to Sage/medical mastery)

I would also like to point out the Yin seal has only been known off for roughly 3 years and i doubt many shinobi outside of the leaf know about it either.

While Ninjutsu elements has been known and practiced world wide.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Yet for all of tsunades chakra controll, After what 30-40 Years of her life being a shinobi, She has shown the ability to use one and only one elemental jutsu.

That's because her fighting style is different. She is using medical ninjutsu and taijutsu to take down her opponents.
Not to mention she quit being a shinobi when she was ~27. Nothing suggests she trained when she was traveling with Shizune.

 

[iNotorious]

- According to Kakashi, every ninja has the potential to master the elements. This includes even the fodders, and this includes everyone who has average chakra control.
- According to Tsunade and Shizune, the Yin seal can't be mastered without perfect chakra control

So this means if someone wants to master the Yin seal, at first he has to PERFECT his chakra control ( which is nearly impossible ), then he needs 3 years to fill the seal.
If even Shizune, a top tier medical ninja with precise chakra control, wasn't able to master it, then I bet it can't be mastered by every random fodder.

- mastering the elements only requires time, mastering the Yin seal requires perfect chakra control AND time.

Hiruzen could never master the Yin seal because nothing suggests his chakra control is as good as Tsunade's or Sakura's, but Tsunade or Sakura could easily master the elements due to their perfect chakra control.

Time? for how long?

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[Rainbow Dash]

So many plebs.

 

[iNotorious]

So many plebs.

Are you in denial?

 

[TheEvilOne]

Time? for how long?

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And mastery of the Yins seal also takes years of training. and like I said, it can't be mastered without perfect chakra control. So your point is...?

 

[iNotorious]

And mastery of the Yins seal also takes years of training. and like I said, it can't be mastered without perfect chakra control. So your point is...?

How many years did sakura take to master her yin seal?

 

[TheEvilOne]

How many years did sakura take to master her yin seal?

3 years, but her chakra control was perfect. For a ninja who has average or worse chakra control mastering the seal would be impossible. But an average ninja could still master 5 techniques from different elements. Even the random fodders were able to use the doton wall after learning the handeals.

 

[Exaar]

But an average ninja could still master 5 techniques from different elements. Even the random fodders were able to use the doton wall after learning the handeals.

IF it's as easy as you claim, Why has kakashi still only got 3 elements and why is this feat of Mastering all 5 elements still limited to Rinnegan users and Hiruzen.

Edit: Also being able to use 1 element from each element doesn't mean mastery of said element.

 

[Xēnovia.]

This thread could get juicy if the right type of "people" enter the fray. I'll keep watch till that happens.​

 

[TheEvilOne]

IF it's as easy as you claim, Why has kakashi still only got 3 elements and why is this feat of Mastering all 5 elements still limited to Rinnegan users and Hiruzen.

Where I said it was easy?

Um, probably because he had no reason to learn the other elements? But anyways, if the random fodders were able to use the doton wall just by learning the handeals, Kakashi should have at least one technique from each element. ( and he even has the sharingan to copy them )

Was it stated it is limited to Hiruzen? No.

 

[Lamb]

All five? If it's all five elements, then it is harder. Learning a jutsu is one thing but mastering them is another. Hiruzen is the only one who naturally learned five elements on his own and I doubt he can match someones mastery of those who specialized on a single element. Elemental mastery doesn't really have limits. Yin seal once learned and mastered, only needed to be maintained and filled.

 

[iNotorious]

3 years, but her chakra control was perfect. For a ninja who has average or worse chakra control mastering the seal would be impossible. But an average ninja could still master 5 techniques from different elements. Even the random fodders were able to use the doton wall after learning the handeals.

Could you name those please? No kages allowed.

 

[Exaar]

Where I said it was easy?

Well claiming "average ninja could still master 5 techniques from different elements" isn't exactly saying it's hard now is it.

Um, probably because he had no reason to learn the other elements? But anyways, if the random fodders were able to use the doton wall just by learning the handeals, Kakashi should have at least one technique from each element. ( and he even has the sharingan to copy them)

No reason?. There is always a reason to learn more elements as a combat shinobi.
I'm pretty sure kakashi stated he only has 3 elements during naruto's wind training.

Was it stated it is limited to Hiruzen? No.

Currently it is yes.

There are no other statements or hype to suggest otherwise

 

[Seventh Sama]

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I thought your average shinobi was only limited to two elements, but apparently they can learn all five natures??...

OT, five elements is way more of a challenge.

 

[Chuggs]

Yin seal.

Fodderuzen using 5 elements proves how simple it is.

 

[iNotorious]

Yin seal.

Fodderuzen using 5 elements proves how simple it is.

Child in the thread.

 

[Exaar]

I thought your average shinobi was only limited to two elements, but apparently they can learn all five natures??...

OT, five elements is way more of a challenge.

Any shinobi can learn any elements.

Two elements is all a average shinobi can master in one life time. It just takes an absurd amount of time/skill to master all 5 and for most i doubt 1 life time is enough to do so.