Where's Uzamaki Spot In The Oosutsuki Lineage?

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the manga established that only the Senju and Uchiha can directly trace their ancestry back to Hagoromo, so it's completely out of the question that the Senju and Uzumaki are sibling clans.
 
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Nowhere, The Uzumaki and Senju were cousins at best, perhaps, Ashura and a non-Otsutsuki with red hair had children and their descendants shared some of their ancestor's genes.
 

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the manga established that only the Senju and Uchiha can directly trace their ancestry back to Hagoromo, so it's completely out of the question that the Senju and Uzumaki are sibling clans.

@ bold thats not what kishimoto wrote in the manga and databook
 

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actually, that's exactly what the DB says:


If anything, it just reiterated what Kushina already said in the story.

kishimoto expands upon it further in hashirama senju's databook entry:

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The Clan Of The Sage Of Six Path's Lineage

Tracing back to the genesis of Ninja, Senju and Uchiha's thread of connection. Both Clans take the Sage of Six Paths as their founder, and strongly inherit that power.

↑ Moreover, Hashirama and Madara are the reincarnations of the the Sage of Six Paths' sons Ashura and Indra, respectively.

The rivalry between Hashirama and Madara may be unavoidable destiny. Hashirama is Ashura; Madara is Indra. The karma of Indra, the genius older brother, and Ashura, the younger brother who inherited his father's will, was to go beyond their generation and start a war.

↑ The Hidden Leaf's Senju Clan and The Hidden Whirlpool's Uzumaki Clan are Ninja of distant blood relation... The Uzumaki Clan, a distant relative of the Senju Clan, could also be said to be a lineage of the Sage of Six Paths.
 
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The indication but not the proof, because Nagato has 2 parents, his mother was a uzumaki for sure, but there is nothing in the manga that proves that Nagato's father isn't a senju.

He was considered a Full Blood Uzumaki, hence the red hair.
 

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kishimoto expands upon it further in hashirama senju's databook entry:

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The Clan Of The Sage Of Six Path's Lineage

Tracing back to the genesis of Ninja, Senju and Uchiha's thread of connection. Both Clans take the Sage of Six Paths as their founder, and strongly inherit that power.

↑ Moreover, Hashirama and Madara are the reincarnations of the the Sage of Six Paths' sons Ashura and Indra, respectively.

The rivalry between Hashirama and Madara may be unavoidable destiny. Hashirama is Ashura; Madara is Indra. The karma of Indra, the genius older brother, and Ashura, the younger brother who inherited his father's will, was to go beyond their generation and start a war.

↑ The Hidden Leaf's Senju Clan and The Hidden Whirlpool's Uzumaki Clan are Ninja of distant blood relation... The Uzumaki Clan, a distant relative of the Senju Clan, could also be said to be a lineage of the Sage of Six Paths.

You just retkd someone.lol
 

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Maybe senju bang with hyuga and we got uzumaki ? :lol
 

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Remember when people thought the Sage was an Uzumaki? Lmao
 

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Just a side note, Uzumaki being a distance relative doesn't necessarily mean they came from the Senju Clan.

If someone from the Senju married an Uzumaki, it would make them distance relatives.
 

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Just a side note, Uzumaki being a distance relative doesn't necessarily mean they came from the Senju Clan.

If someone from the Senju married an Uzumaki, it would make them distance relatives.

but kishimoto stated distant blood relatives...meaning lineage and not outer-clan marriage
 

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I think it breaks down like this.

Kaguya

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Her two sons and their descendants.

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Hargoromo: Patriarch of the Senju, Uzumaki and Uchiha Clans

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Senju and Uchiha
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Hamura
: Patriarch of the Otsutsuki (Moon Clan), Hyuga and Kaguya Clans.

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Kaguya

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Kishi did a poor job developing and expanding on every clan that wasn't named Uchiha. We barely know anything about the Uzumaki. Despite being one the strongest clans in the NV, we know little about the Senju as well. Compared to all we know about the Uchiha.
 
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but kishimoto stated distant blood relatives...meaning lineage and not outer-clan marriage
A distance relative doesn't mean two people from different places getting married. That's not what I meant.

For example, if Mito had a sister. Her sister would be Tsunade's distance relative. Thus, Tsunade bloodline would make Senju and Uzumaki distance "blood" relatives.

Hashi's kid would connect them, and Tsunade's kid would make them distance relatives if they considered themselves to be Senju.
 
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An irrelevant brachyuran of the Senju later down the line.
 

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A distance relative doesn't mean two people from different places getting married. That's not what I meant.

For example, if Mito had a sister. Her sister would be Tsunade's distance relative. Thus, Tsunade bloodline would make Senju and Uzumaki distance "blood" relatives.

Hashi's kid would connect them, and Tsunade's kid would make them distance relatives if they considered themselves to be Senju.

except that is not what kishimoto meant...the "distant blood relatives" quote goes far back past hashirama senju's existence as he stated in databook 4
 

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Kishi did a poor job developing and expanding on every clan that wasn't named Uchiha. We barely know anything about the Uzumaki. Despite being one the strongest clans in the NV, we know little about the Senju as well. Compared to all we know about the Uchiha.

who was relevant to the plot?
 

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Below Uchiha/senju as usual and always
 
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