[Discussion] Where would you rank the dukes in a yonko crew?

[Bogard]

Title says it all. Where do you think Inuarashi and Nekomamushi would rank? Individually of course

1- Yonko level
2- Yonko firstmate
3- Yonko second
4- Yonko third
5- Yonko fourth
6- Below?

 

[Bimbonium]

With the little we know about them, I'd choose yonko fourth (If there's any such thing)

 

[Bogard]

With the little we know about them, I'd choose yonko fourth (If there's any such thing)

How is the info we have from them little? They could individually fight a yonko top3 and possibly right hand man for 12 hours, 5consecutive times without receiving major injuries. I think it's more than enough to have an idea to where to rate them

Also, i chose the term yonko fourth to refer to the 4th strongest in a yonko crew(outside the yonko himself of course). The rank itself doesn't matter

 

[Bimbonium]

How is the info we have from them little? They could individually fight a yonko top3 and possibly right hand man for 12 hours, 5consecutive times without receiving major injuries. I think it's more than enough to have an idea to where to rate them

Also, i chose the term yonko fourth to refer to the 4th strongest in a yonko crew(outside the yonko himself of course). The rank itself doesn't matter

lol, I know what the term means. They fought 1 person for 5 days while taking breaks. Taking breaks equals eating,sleeping and possibly coming up with counters for techniques, placing them at 4th strongest yonko member is a little generous

 

[Skull Knight]

I will say Yonko Firstmate

Taking breaks equals eating,sleeping and possibly coming up with counters for techniques, placing them at 4th strongest yonko member is a little generous

they have to be Yonko first mate lvl.
That's how Luffy could get strong & face kaido in future.

 

[Bogard]

lol, I know what the term means. They fought 1 person for 5 days while taking breaks. Taking breaks equals eating,sleeping and possibly coming up with counters for techniques, placing them at 4th strongest yonko member is a little generous

Doesn't matter. Inuarashi could fight Jack(a potential yonko firstmate) for 12hours without receiving major injuries and that had nothing to do with the breaks thing. Sure endurance wise, Jack would have had the upperhand at one point, but do you even know how impressive it is to stalemate(or close to it) a yonko firstmate for 12hours? One Piece fights rarely last that long, yet during that great moment of time, Inuarashi could hold his own without Jack giving him significant injuries. That means they are sufficiently close to his level that Jack can't beat them under 12hours. He'd require much more time for that to happen, so i doubt the gap would be that drastical

 

[Bimbonium]

Doesn't matter. Inuarashi could fight Jack(a potential yonko firstmate) for 12hours without receiving major injuries and that had nothing to do with the breaks thing. Sure endurance wise, Jack would have had the upperhand at one point, but do you even know how impressive it is to stalemate(or close to it) a yonko firstmate for 12hours? One Piece fights rarely last that long, yet during that great moment of time, Inuarashi could hold his own without Jack giving him significant injuries. That means they are sufficiently close to his level that Jack can't beat them under 12hours. He'd require much more time for that to happen, so i doubt the gap would be that drastical

Jack not beating them under 12 hours shows that they are strong that's why I placed them at "yonko 4th position", but the fact that they took breaks still exists and that points to Jack having more stamina (which might not even be the case), but with more and more fights in OP lasting for as long as 5 days (we've seen/ heard of at least 3 fights with at least this duration) they are below Jack, as an extention below the calamities (albeit speculatively) which puts them at 4th.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Personally consider them 1st mate level each never let jack get opening (same for hitting jack tho..)'
Or maybe a little under them

Personally I rank the Dukes same with doffy (from dreasrosa and main ford def think he can do anything Marco can do and then some ) and Jack Marco sabo etc.. Tho how they rank is diff story

But they have one thing in common that they either have hype or fears that suggest they can do protect a yonko

 

[Black Mamba]

In between first mate and second mate, but more closer to first mate.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

They were able to fight Jack for 12 hours strait, so they're definitely strong enough to be at least first mate. Jack is just a stamina beast.

(Could they have beaten him if they had fought at the same time? And no poison gas.)

 

[Bogard]

Jack not beating them under 12 hours shows that they are strong that's why I placed them at "yonko 4th position", but the fact that they took breaks still exists and that points to Jack having more stamina (which might not even be the case), but with more and more fights in OP lasting for as long as 5 days (we've seen/ heard of at least 3 fights with at least this duration) they are below Jack, as an extention below the calamities (albeit speculatively) which puts them at 4th.

Well i guess it depends on where you rank a yonko fourth in power then. Also another thing to note is that the moment Luffy saw Inuarashi, he felt he was powerful, a compliment he only gave to Fujitora before, who is an admiral, and he did it not only once, but twice

During the presentation

Luffy: ...So... You’re pretty strong, right? / Pretty damn strong!!

When Wanda was tailing the Jack story

Luffy: A guy so powerful even this old guy couldn’t beat him... / And he’s just one of Kaidou’s subordinates?! // That’s pretty amazing...!!!

Not to mention they are the leaders of a nation that stayed independent from the yonkos and others for more than thousand years. They were also implied to have met Shanks before and there is also Pedro's words concerning the fact they are the two the world is awaiting from

So this may imply they are very special and likely pretty damn close to the top

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

First mate of the pirates during the Golden Ages.
Somewhere around Rayleigh's level but not exactly on a deadlock with him.
Rayleigh is the first mate that can beat other yonkou firstmates but would lose to a a few Yonkous.

 

[ToshiZO]

For now I'm getting Sabo level vibes from them. So Top 2 from a Yonkou crew.

 

[Insidious Smile]

I have no idea why you chose to put "Yonko Fourth" on the poll because there is no such thing as Yonko Fourth. Jack is one of the "three disasters", and possibly the weakest of the three considering his epithet, "distraught".

The only one who probably fought the five days straight was Jack — Inuarashi promptly sleeps at 6:00 PM, and Nekomamushi promptly wakes up at 6:00 PM, this leaves a time gap for Jack to rest for a bit because I doubt Nekomamushi or Inuarashi would wake up and fight Jack immediately afterwords. To prevent Jack from killing Nekomamushi or Inuarashi in their sleep, the mink tribe would have to step in to recover Nekomamushi's or Inurashi's body to keep it in a safe place until either Nekomamushi or Inuarashi wakes up.

I assume Nekomamushi and Inuarashi rank below your Yonkou Forth, being Admiral level characters. The mink tribe are foolish to label Luffy as "our hero" because we know Luffy barely defeated Doflamingo and would not stand a chance against Kaido or Jack.

 

[ToshiZO]

I have no idea why you chose to put "Yonko Fourth" on the poll because there is no such thing as Yonko Fourth. Jack is one of the "three disasters", and possibly the weakest of the three considering his epithet, "distraught".

The only one who probably fought the five days straight was Jack — Inuarashi promptly sleeps at 6:00 PM, and Nekomamushi promptly wakes up at 6:00 PM, this leaves a time gap for Jack to rest for a bit because I doubt Nekomamushi or Inuarashi would wake up and fight Jack immediately afterwords. To prevent Jack from killing Nekomamushi or Inuarashi in their sleep, the mink tribe would have to step in to recover Nekomamushi's or Inurashi's body to keep it in a safe place until either Nekomamushi or Inuarashi wakes up.

I assume Nekomamushi and Inuarashi rank below your Yonkou Forth, being Admiral level characters. The mink tribe are foolish to label Luffy as "our hero" because we know Luffy barely defeated Doflamingo and would not stand a chance against Kaido or Jack.

Nah we literally see it on panel. Nekomamushi is coming in as the Duke is finishing up and vice versa.

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And what type of logic is that to begin with, waking up and fighting immediately is hard for you to believe in a verse like One Piece?......Really?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

There's no such a thing as yonko first mate level, we don't know how strong the FMs are, we only know about marco who himself was not a FM. It;s not like all yonko-FMs are implied to be at the same level or even the yonko themselves. They're merely the 4 strongest pirates and that's it.

OT: Below admiral level definitely, I can't be exact since oda off-paneled the shit out of the fight.

 

[ssjelf]

I have no idea why you chose to put "Yonko Fourth" on the poll because there is no such thing as Yonko Fourth. Jack is one of the "three disasters", and possibly the weakest of the three considering his epithet, "distraught".

The only one who probably fought the five days straight was Jack — Inuarashi promptly sleeps at 6:00 PM, and Nekomamushi promptly wakes up at 6:00 PM, this leaves a time gap for Jack to rest for a bit because I doubt Nekomamushi or Inuarashi would wake up and fight Jack immediately afterwords. To prevent Jack from killing Nekomamushi or Inuarashi in their sleep, the mink tribe would have to step in to recover Nekomamushi's or Inurashi's body to keep it in a safe place until either Nekomamushi or Inuarashi wakes up.

I assume Nekomamushi and Inuarashi rank below your Yonkou Forth, being Admiral level characters. The mink tribe are foolish to label Luffy as "our hero" because we know Luffy barely defeated Doflamingo and would not stand a chance against Kaido or Jack.

First off Jacks epithet is "The drought" not distraught.

When the inurashi forces retreated nekomamushi promptly began to fight jack so yes they fought for 12 hours each with 12 hour rest. Inurashi falling asleep was half a gag as you can see he woke up to continue talking to luffy.

neither Jack nor any other yonkou crew members besides the yonkou himself is admirals level.

 

[DevilKing II]

Right behind Shanks sitting on an elevated rock, enjoying booze with Beckman, Yassop and Lucky Roo.

 

[MadaraReturns]

To be honest at first I also thought they were 1st mate (Jack) lvl when that dog slapped Jack's D away, but they aren't exactly as strong as Jack, Jack didn't get defeated even when his strength was draining by the hours and theirs refilled... having said that maybe Jack is the (2nd) strongest first mate of every Yonko mate so even if they're not precisely at his lvl, they could be first mate level..

 

[YellowFang]

Yonko fourth because that's last on your poll...
But I think they more closer to DD level for a more relevant comparison...(Strength wise of course, DD is far more cunning though)