where was it stated that hashi was weaker during him vs hiruzen?

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PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME nagato was able to beat bee and naruto ease IMO while edo what happen to the great hashi
 

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Orochimaru was ****ing with Hiruzen, that's what happened.
 

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69 Old Hiruzen was able to defeat an Prime Health Orochimaru

nuff said.
 

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Erm... If it needs to be 'STATED' in plain writing for you then you're not very smart, eh?

Kabuto's version is said to be stronger. Therefore, we can assume that Oro's is weaker. Basic deduction skills. A 3 year old is capable of doing it. :|
 

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nothing, people are just mad that hiruzen beat both the hokages years ago, and using orochimaru edo wasnt complete or masterd like kabuto, it actually was the difference between oro edo tensei and kabutos is the controll they use thus power had nothing to do with it
 

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Erm... If it needs to be 'STATED' in plain writing for you then you're not very smart, eh?

Kabuto's version is said to be stronger. Therefore, we can assume that Oro's is weaker. Basic deduction skills. A 3 year old is capable of doing it. :|

phew good thing i'm for then huh
 

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Erm... If it needs to be 'STATED' in plain writing for you then you're not very smart, eh?

Kabuto's version is said to be stronger. Therefore, we can assume that Oro's is weaker. Basic deduction skills. A 3 year old is capable of doing it. :|
please stfu when was it said kabutos version was stonger manga please oro perfected edo so if sasuke perfect susanoo does it makes it better than madaras?
 

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Uhh Oro was toying with Hiruzen
 

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nothing, people are just mad that hiruzen beat both the hokages years ago, and using orochimaru edo wasnt complete or masterd like kabuto, it actually was the difference between oro edo tensei and kabutos is the controll they use thus power had nothing to do with it

agree logic the nutt hugger need to gtfoh with that bs
 

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please stfu when was it said kabutos version was stonger manga please oro perfected edo so if sasuke perfect susanoo does it makes it better than madaras?

Chiyo, when revived, spoke about how Kabuto's version was stronger, and better.

I don't need to go and find the manga page for someone like you. Find it yourself.

No need to tell me to shut the **** up either, good sir. Please calm down.
 

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please stfu when was it said kabutos version was stonger manga please oro perfected edo so if sasuke perfect susanoo does it makes it better than madaras?

when he states "i perfected it" it if F**KING implied he made it better :sy:
 

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Chiyo, when revived, spoke about how Kabuto's version was stronger, and better.

I don't need to go and find the manga page for someone like you. Find it yourself.

No need to tell me to shut the **** up either, good sir. Please calm down.

didnt provide me proof how would chiyo no anything about oros edo was she one did she fight one? you need to go on an itachi vs thread your good at those sometimes leave the professinal stuff to me noob perfected kabuto claims his better thats his opinion he also said hashi is the stonger than any ninja alive today kabuto opinion isnt nothing trust
 

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Kabuto stated to Tobi that Orochimaru had Hashirama and Tobirama under his complete control.

The facts that Hashirama was not using Wood Techs like Madara was using and Tobirama not using Space Time, makes it only logical to assume they weren't fighting t the fullest, which is further backed up by the fact that Orochimaru didn't know of their full powers and he had COMPLETE control of them, thus making them unable to fight fully.
 

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didnt provide me proof how would chiyo no anything about oros edo was she one did she fight one? you need to go on an itachi vs thread your good at those sometimes leave the professinal stuff to me noob perfected kabuto claims his better thats his opinion he also said hashi is the stonger than any ninja alive today kabuto opinion isnt nothing trust
bold=dafuq?
 

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didnt provide me proof how would chiyo no anything about oros edo was she one did she fight one? you need to go on an itachi vs thread your good at those sometimes leave the professinal stuff to me noob perfected kabuto claims his better thats his opinion he also said hashi is the stonger than any ninja alive today kabuto opinion isnt nothing trust

Obvious troll is obvious. Just leave.
 

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Kabuto stated to Tobi that Orochimaru had Hashirama and Tobirama under his complete control.

The facts that Hashirama was not using Wood Techs like Madara was using and Tobirama not using Space Time, makes it only logical to assume they weren't fighting t the fullest, which is further backed up by the fact that Orochimaru didn't know of their full powers and he had COMPLETE control of them, thus making them unable to fight fully.

Exactly what i said, but they were fighting at full power the only thing that makes the edo tensei different, is the tailsman they use to controll them, oro had them bound completely, but they could use there full abillites regardless, kabuto still had all them bound, just they had there emotions and thoughts and memories, thats the only diff from oro and kabuto technique thus there skills and powers and nothing to do with losing
 
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