Where is it stated that CES is poor taijutsu

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And that it is linear and easily avoided? Because I feel like that is something Kakashi said in filler and was never stated in the manga. In all actuality, both of Tsunade teammates boast about how you wouldn't engage her in hand to hand combat. Even calling her unmatched. Can I see a scan saying that it's linear?

The only time CES failed was due to plot to save a character from dying.
Kabuto only lasted that long because Tsunade was nerfed, and he was juiced up. The be used her weakness to keep himself from dying.

Sakura only failed against the cloud ninja because she was crying and largely due to plot because I'm sure her killing them would've started a war. Because in all actuality we know her feats in the sasori fight was superior.

Even Kakashi in the filler, he was no faster than sasori s puppets, yet Sakura couldn't land a hit? That was Bs. That Kakashi was having trouble with hidan who had the lowest attack speed.


Saying that CES is linear is a insult to Sakuras evasive skills, analytical ability, and her chakra control, her strength is instant
 

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As Kakashi would say "It is no use if you don't land a hit". For CES to be effectively used with Daken Tai jutsu, Sakura needs to at least touch her opponents.

CES and thai jutsu are different.
I agree any body who survived it w as due to plot shield but that's kishi's fault he made somebody overpowered then had to nerf them.


CES isn't a ****ing taijutsu..
Sasuke and others use CES. She's just shit at fighting.


That's like calling Sage Mode a taijutsu.


Guys, CES can be used alongside with Taijutsu. The Gates aren't Taijutsu but they can be used with it. Madara praised Gai for Taijutsu while he was using the 8th Gate. Same logic..
 
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It's a jutsu developed for medical ninjas to defend themselves. So it makes a really good jutsu look bad because the fighters who are more effective in combat don't use it. Tsunade is reknown for it but she is a pretty good fighter. My opinion is that it needs to be further developed or used in conjunction with another ability to really see it's potential.
 

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Like with sharingan you can see with clarity, recognise attack patterns, jutsu and have precognition. It'll become extremely over powered one of the reasons Sarada is too overpowered at the moment. If she develops genjutsu prowess then coupled with CES she's going to be unrivalled.
 
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No one said ces is linear, nor poor taijutsu, the main user in the manga of ces just always happens to attack in a linear matter while yelling at opponents to let them know she's coming... seriously, one can only see someone lunge punch so many times before it gets repetive and predictable
 

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Where indeed because im pretty sure you hust made that up as even in the clip you mentioned , nowhere did Kakashi call it poor , only that its useless if you dont touch your enemy. What kakashi said was perfectly logical as had the 3T + all she did was swing at him repeatedly with linear punches which he wouldn't even need sharingan to predict and avoid.

Kabuto wasn't any good at Taijutsu which means he needed to amplify himself in order to confront her in CQC w/o Taijutsu , which is why exhausting her beforehand was also the logical move as she's on a different level in Taijutsu.

Sakura failed against the cloud ninja because her attack , the approach and gesture was too linear and predictable , while the Cloud ninja's
was not. Her feats in the sasori fight dont change a thing since Omoi>>puppets in CQC.

Kakashi not being faster than sasori s puppets in speed and reactions is downright foolishness made even worse when you try to use that as a viable reason for why Sakura should've tagged 3T Kakashi , with sloppy punches no less.
 
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It's a jutsu developed for medical ninjas to defend themselves. So it makes a really good jutsu look bad because the fighters who are more effective in combat don't use it. Tsunade is reknown for it but she is a pretty good fighter. My opinion is that it needs to be further developed or used in conjunction with another ability to really see it's potential.
Completely agree with this. It isn't the tech that's weak but how it is portrayed. It was mostly shown just punching the ground. Sakura also used it to break Sai's ink snakes when he had Naruto tied up during their sparring under Yamato's watch. Sai mentioned how dangerous CES was because she broke his seal with her bare hands.

That's about the only other instance I can recall where it was used for more than just punching objects or the ground. We needed to see its versatility in different fights against different types of enemies.

Maybe we will get to see this with Sarada....maybe...
 

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Really? CES has nothing to do with Taijutsu.

Sakura can use CES, but her taijutsu is slim. All she does is run straight forward and screams.

The only people she can catch are those who are distracted (I.E Shin and Kaguya) or fodder (Except Omoi :))
 

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CES is just pure strength, I don't think it translates directly to taijutsu. In Tsunades case she's also known to be crazy strong even without CES.
 
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