[Discussion] where do u rate these guys

[MartinRico]

Your scaling has to be wrong because by your metrics:

• Marco could Low Diff Doffy
• Sabo would Stomp Law
• Law could Low diff Ivankov

All of these assumptions are unjustified and can be easily contradicted by the Manga

IMO, I think Sabo is stronger than DD, so I can see him stomping Law.
In case you forgot, DD low diffed Law until he started getting help.
I hope Marco can low diff DD.
People underestimate Magellan and Ivankov. I want to say they're stronger than DD, but I have nothing but my gut to back that up.
Magellan was a beast and if Oda doesn't reintroduce him, then he would be wasting his potential. We don't know if he had haki, but it's not like he needed it at the time.

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

I see them like this, somewhat ...

* 01 - 03 = Extreme
* 04 - 07 = very high diff
* 08 - 15 = high diff
* 16 - 25 = mid diff
* 26 - 40 = low diff

Fujitora = Kizaru = 100

- Marco = 95
- Sabo = 91
- Doflamingo = 91
- Magellan = 90
- Ivankov = 80
- Law = 75

 

[Ridoku X]

Fujitora >Marco>= Doflamingo> Sabo> Law> Magellan> Ivankov

Or something like:

Fujitora=100
Marco=92-94
Doflamingo=88
Sabo=85-88
Law=70ish
Magellan=70ish as well, couldbe higher post TS doe
Ivankov= Barely 70ish

 

[YellowFang]

Fuji is an Admiral, so he's near that level but hasn't shown anything for now...

Sabo and Marco are close, both have quite similar fighting style (CQC with flames covered body) but I'd put Marco above Sabo however slight the gap is...

Doflamingo is 'BOSS'... He's shown that newcomers like Supernovas are still far from his league. With his Plotcage holding down so many monsters in and still standing while the two Novas are in no shape to fight, I'd rate him just around Yonko First-Mate level...

Ivankov and Magellan are around same level but because of different combat styles, they'd overpower each other...
Like, Mag > Iva > Pascifista > Mag (IMO)

I believe that Kidd is still stronger than the other Novas, but Law and Luffy are real close... I'd put them on a same level...

 

[MickNerks]

Fuji is an Admiral, so he's near that level but hasn't shown anything for now...

Sabo and Marco are close, both have quite similar fighting style (CQC with flames covered body) but I'd put Marco above Sabo however slight the gap is...

Doflamingo is 'BOSS'... He's shown that newcomers like Supernovas are still far from his league. With his Plotcage holding down so many monsters in and still standing while the two Novas are in no shape to fight, I'd rate him just around Yonko First-Mate level...

Ivankov and Magellan are around same level but because of different combat styles, they'd overpower each other...
Like, Mag > Iva > Pascifista > Mag (IMO)

I believe that Kidd is still stronger than the other Novas, but Law and Luffy are real close... I'd put them on a same level...

^^^ I agree with this.. Especially BOLDED

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Doflamingo lacks observation haki and some other basics i think. Either way

Difficulty sytem

- Power level range from 100 to 0
- Difficulties are stomp, low, mid, high, very high and extreme
- The difference between 2 nearby level of difficulties is 5points. Ex: A=100, B=95, C=94 means B would push A to extreme when C would push A to very high while pushing B to extreme
- There is a range within the difficulties. For example for the low difficulty, you have low(low) diff, low(mid) diff, low(high) diff...

If Fujitora = 100

- Marco is between 98 and 100
- Sabo = 88
- Doflamingo = 75
- Law = 60
- Magellan is between 56 and 64
- Ivankov is between 36 and 41

idk id put doffy at thev very least like an 88 like sabo im not convinced hes weaker even if so not a total of 13 points by ur logic he should be able to low diff doffy and plz tell me u do not believe this if so then done speaking about him

magellan should be at the very least a 75.. hes strong as ****

ivan should be where u ranked law or around 64 and law should be around a 50 something simply because hes far from done and theres around 10 more years of OP in terms of story... i mean maybe a 60 but i dnt think hes stronger then ivan (law is my favorite character) tho a bad matchup due to hax and really smart in battle

G4 was dominated DD so I compensated for that by saying he's barley stronger, Luffy in G4 is stronger than DD.

gear 4 did not dominate doffy tbh hes still walking and attacking perfectly fine he was also able to intercept gear 4 attacks a couple of times just because someone is landing hits does not mean they r winning the fight.. doffy is currently walking to luffy while luffy is resorted to being carried off by someone to by him time all of this is showing doffy full powered is way above luffy between all of the interuptions and breaks luffy is getting

doffy has tanked gamma knife gear 4 attacks gear 2 attacks etc. fought law twice on his own and fought them together as well and still dominated...
the entire gear 4 scuffle doffy has been analysing his movements and how it operates etc. im not going to lie it has done significant damage either on the level of gamma knife or slightly below (internal organs r always weak doesnt mater how strong u r).. but it hasnt been enough ... doffy is still walking or flying with his strings while luffy is panting on someone elses back u really think a doffy without birdcage up and no gamma knife would lose to G4 luffy?

 

[Bogard]

idk id put doffy at thev very least like an 88 like sabo im not convinced hes weaker even if so not a total of 13 points by ur logic he should be able to low diff doffy and plz tell me u do not believe this if so then done speaking about him

magellan should be at the very least a 75.. hes strong as ****

ivan should be where u ranked law or around 64 and law should be around a 50 something simply because hes far from done and theres around 10 more years of OP in terms of story... i mean maybe a 60 but i dnt think hes stronger then ivan (law is my favorite character) tho a bad matchup due to hax and really smart in battle

Read my rating range again. A 13point difference is in the range of high difficulty.

What did Ivankov even show besides being one shotted by Magellan to rate him stronger than Law?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

U cant give an definitive answer to how strong are the first 3 characters u listed i,e Doffy, Fuji and Sabo.

Im saying this because the recent actions and almost anything that happened in this arc were not enough to how their powers and especially the admiral who seems to not even try at all due to his own beliefs and his motives to the sichibukai system, its actually sad how Oda has given the power levels the back seat and decided to focus too much on the plot and other things, this arc is meant to make for Luffy a strong enough army/allies to take on the yonkos so that's why sadly someone like Sai or Elizabello gets more panel time then fuji, fujitora here was used as a plot device nothing more or less so judging the guys powers based on this arc isnt fair at all, the guy isnt even trying.

So long story short this is how I would rate these characters:

Fujitora 100
Marco 97
Sabo 93
Doflamingo 85
Law 77
Magellan 71
Ivankov 62

2-5 points = high diff
6-9 points = mid diff
10-15 points = low diff
15-... = neg diff/stomp

u think sabo would mid diff doffy?

 

[OG sama]

gear 4 did not dominate doffy tbh hes still walking and attacking perfectly fine he was also able to intercept gear 4 attacks a couple of times just because someone is landing hits does not mean they r winning the fight.. doffy is currently walking to luffy while luffy is resorted to being carried off by someone to by him time all of this is showing doffy full powered is way above luffy between all of the interuptions and breaks luffy is getting

doffy has tanked gamma knife gear 4 attacks gear 2 attacks etc. fought law twice on his own and fought them together as well and still dominated...
the entire gear 4 scuffle doffy has been analysing his movements and how it operates etc. im not going to lie it has done significant damage either on the level of gamma knife or slightly below (internal organs r always weak doesnt mater how strong u r).. but it hasnt been enough ... doffy is still walking or flying with his strings while luffy is panting on someone elses back u really think a doffy without birdcage up and no gamma knife would lose to G4 luffy?

He actually isn't fine, he's so weakened Luffy believes one more attack will be enough to beat him. DD got one hit on G4 and it did nothing. He couldn't even touch Luffy with his awakening, and he also never tanked any G4 attack, he was sent flying every time he was hit. If G4 hadn't timed out Doffy would have been KOed for sure, and Luffy was also weakened, not just by Bellamy but all the nonstop moving and fighting he's been going through almost the whole arc. Doffy was also kicking and slashing him prior to that Bellamy beating.

Of course Doffy would win because of the time limit and the fact that G4s drawbacks takes away Luffys Haki and leaves him exhausted.

 

[MickNerks]

Read my rating range again. A 13point difference is in the range of high difficulty.

What did Ivankov even show besides being one shotted by Magellan to rate him stronger than Law?

Ivankov was never shown getting one shotted by megellan. He easily took

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and was unfazed. You have no idea what megellan did to ivankov to put him down because that part of the fight was off panel.

But unlike the Yonko Blackbeard and Monkey D Luffy, Ivankov is the only person known to survive megellans poison by himself. to suggest ivankov is weaker than law is to admit that Bartolomew Kuma is weaker than Law also, as Ivankov and Kuma are hinted to be equals, and the manga even suggest than ivankov could be

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than kuma.

 

[YellowFang]

agree with this for most part but question reguarding marco and sabo do u place them in the admiral level bracket or YFM bracket or inbetween

Marco is definitely more closer to Admiral level... He has DF advantage + Lots of Experience and Haki being with WB in the NW for most of time...

 

[SanjiZoroLuffy]

Doflamingo lacks observation haki and some other basics i think. Either way

Difficulty sytem

- Power level range from 100 to 0
- Difficulties are stomp, low, mid, high, very high and extreme
- The difference between 2 nearby level of difficulties is 5points. Ex: A=100, B=95, C=94 means B would push A to extreme when C would push A to very high while pushing B to extreme
- There is a range within the difficulties. For example for the low difficulty, you have low(low) diff, low(mid) diff, low(high) diff...

If Fujitora = 100

- Marco is between 98 and 100
- Sabo = 88
- Doflamingo = 75
- Law = 60
- Magellan is between 56 and 64
- Ivankov is between 36 and 41

i love how your so stupid u cant think of a number between 98 and 100 you have to type out 98 and 100 hello dumb kid what is after 98 and before 100

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

i love how your so stupid u cant think of a number between 98 and 100 you have to type out 98 and 100 hello dumb kid what is after 98 and before 100

You shouldn't be calling anyone stupid considering that you think Sanji is stronger than Zoro. When he said that, I'm pretty sure he meant Marco could be 98, 100, or any other number in between (doesn't have to be a whole number).

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Why is Ivankov above Magellan? Didn't Magellan beat him?

It was a bad match up. Iva is a close range fighter. Even though the odds were so staked against, Iva still destroyed one of the hydra heads, made Magellan bleed and counter Magellan's poison in a short amount of time.

 

[Anduril]

It was a bad match up. Iva is a close range fighter. Even though the odds were so staked against, Iva still destroyed one of the hydra heads, made Magellan bleed and counter Magellan's poison in a short amount of time.

Ivankov is actually a good matchup to Magellan considering her/his fruit. Anyone else without Haki is a bad matchup. (We can exclude some logia or paramecia users)

 

[sravan]

In my op
If the old admirals(akainu,aokiji,kizaru)=100
fuji=95(yes i believe he is weaker than pre-ts admirals for sure)
marco=96(yes i think he can beat fuji in a 1vs1 battle)
sabo(MMNM)=90(i think he is not above marco & fuji)
doffy=90(i think sabo can beat doffy but will be a extreme high diff match)
Magellan(pre-ts)=80(He has the best chance to beat a fighter of any level even admirals if they don't take him seriously)
I think magellan(post-ts+haki(if he has))=97
Ivankov=80(due to lack of feats)
law=70(He is developing.)

 

[KingHashirama]

Fujitora

Sabo

Marco

Doffy

 

[sage1999]

Doflamingo lacks observation haki and some other basics i think. Either way

Difficulty sytem

- Power level range from 100 to 0
- Difficulties are stomp, low, mid, high, very high and extreme
- The difference between 2 nearby level of difficulties is 5points. Ex: A=100, B=95, C=94 means B would push A to extreme when C would push A to very high while pushing B to extreme
- There is a range within the difficulties. For example for the low difficulty, you have low(low) diff, low(mid) diff, low(high) diff...

If Fujitora = 100

- Marco is between 98 and 100
- Sabo = 88
- Doflamingo = 75
- Law = 60
- Magellan is between 56 and 64
- Ivankov is between 36 and 41

Literally, 1 drop of Hydra on Fuji and he's out of the game. Law is way above the ranking u postd him as. Ivankov was PLAYING with magellan (infact he/she was also playing with Akainu. Luffy Gear 2 blows are enough to bring Magellan down to his knees, and Gear 2= Diable Jamble. Ivankov thrashed Sanji pre-TS (like GOd Stomp) so I believe ivankov is above Magellan. Sabo should be higher IMO (a decent 93)