Where did Minato learnt Rasenga and ... ?

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Minato taught jiraya sensei rasenga meaning it was not jiraya who taught him. Yesterday I was just confused that killer b was amazed when Naruto showed him rasenga (during his training with naruto) because it was similar to the TBB or so. Probably killer B was thinking the inventor of such jutsu must have seen a TBB before! But the first time minato ever fought a TB was during Konoha attack during which he died. Meaning that he must have learnt rasenga before this time.
Another amazing thing was that he knew the RDS and even taught the 3rd Hokage who was acknowledged to know almost all jutsu in Konoha.

Minato must have learnt the RDS from Kushina/Mito. As for rasenga I guessed it's either from one of Hashirama scroll or smth because hitherto Hashirama was the only one who must have seen a TBB.

Any other idea?
 

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Minato created the Rasengan... He got the idea of the Rasengan from the tailed beast bomb.
 

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minato developed the rasengan himself , he based is off of the bijuudama
 

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It was formed observing the TBB...we know for a fact that Minato has fought Bee before, and I'd imagine they clashed several times (during one of which Bee used a TBB).
 

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minato created rasengan by copying TBB and he created RDS which was stated by hiruzen as his original jutsu when he used it on oro
 

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Minato created the Rasengan... He got the idea of the Rasengan from the tailed beast bomb.

But he never fought a tailed beast until konoha attack. It should be from those who have seen a TABB before.
 

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there are numerous ways he could have got the idea from the tbb like some people have said he has fought with a and bee and seeing how hashirama could control the bijuu he would have wrote down what bijuu can do like a tbb or he may have seen kushina do it say if she lost control like naruto has done
 

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minato created rasengan by copying TBB and he created RDS which was stated by hiruzen as his original jutsu when he used it on oro

But he never fought a tailed beast until konoha attack. It should be from those who have seen a TBB before. How did Kushina recognised the jutsu?
 

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But he never fought a tailed beast until konoha attack. It should be from those who have seen a TABB before.

actually he did.. he did go against bee+raikage comp more than once.. and answer for rasengan has been given like 10times up there so ill just comp em xd --^
 

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But he never fought a tailed beast until konoha attack. It should be from those who have seen a TBB before. How did Kushina recognised the jutsu?

you can not possible assume he has never fought or seen a tailed beast or jinchuuriki before nine tails see how he has fought bee
 

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there are numerous ways he could have got the idea from the tbb like some people have said he has fought with a and bee and seeing how hashirama could control the bijuu he would have wrote down what bijuu can do like a tbb or he may have seen kushina do it say if she lost control like naruto has done

Kushina lost control? Uzumaki like kushina can't lost control because of her chakra .
 

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Kushina lost control? Uzumaki like kushina can't lost control because of her chakra .

its still a possibility, fine maybe she could use it to a point anything is possible until kishi expands on minatos background
 

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like you said jiraiya didn't teach it to him, actually he was the one who kind of told jiraiya how to do it :p.
now how he got is probably from seeing a tailed beast preform a TBB but why do you think that the konoha attack was the first time minato saw a tailed beast ?? i know for sure that he created it before he became a hokage, so he probably saw one of the jinchuuriki's preform it before (maybe killer bee) looking at the time period he was in. remember we don't know everything about this character's history or what he saw.
 
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like you said jiraiya didn't teach it to him, actually he is the one who kind of told jiraiya how to do it :p.
now where he got from is probably from seeing a tailed beast preform a TBB but why do you think that the konoha attack was the first time minato saw a tailed beast ?? i know for sure that he created it before he became a hokage, so he probably saw one of the jinchuuriki's preform it before (maybe killer bee) looking at the time period he was in. remember we don't know everything about this character's history his.

yeah and didnt kakashi base chidori from the rasengan and that was before kyuubi attack
 

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yeah and didnt kakashi base chidori from the rasengan and that was before kyuubi attack

true, he did learn the rasengan (and we saw him show it to naruto right before his wind training) so he tried to fuse the rasengan with lightning but failed, yet it helped him come up with chidori (that was a little kakashi who clearly was before the konoha attack).
 
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RDS was not jointly developed by Hiruzen and Minato. Minato taught Hiruzen as Hiruzen himself even confirmed this during his fight with Orochimaru.
 
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