[Discussion] "Where are all the good men?"

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[video=youtube;MlhR1bbHcF4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlhR1bbHcF4[/video]
 

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On Narutobase :bdpf:
 

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For real though, this man was speaking wisdom and I decided to share it here.
I think the root cause are daddy issues for these women who keep repeating the cycle.
Women from healthy backgrounds rarely have the bad boy syndrome where they get off on abuse.
 

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Why is the camera focused on his shoulder and not his face?

OT: What is a good man? By his definition, it sounds like an average guy. I wouldn't date an average guy....
 

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Why is the camera focused on his shoulder and not his face?

OT: What is a good man? By his definition, it sounds like an average guy. I wouldn't date an average guy....
Don't do it but then don't complain about your choice to date someone that is below average.
 

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Don't do it but then don't complain about your choice to date someone that is below average.

Just because a person chooses not to date that average guy, doesn't mean they end up with someone less.

Also, this friend zone nonsense should be left in 2014. It's honestly stupid. If they're not interested in you, it's not the friendzone, they're just not interested. Find somene who is.
 

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A good amount of girls like the bad boy type though. I'm not generalizing but what does a woman want? You wonder why we find the opposite gender complicating and it goes both ways.
 

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Arguing about who is better and fighting with the rest of the good men.
 

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Just because a person chooses not to date that average guy, doesn't mean they end up with someone less.

Also, this friend zone nonsense should be left in 2014. It's honestly stupid. If they're not interested in you, it's not the friendzone, they're just not interested. Find somene who is.
My point is, most of the women who complain about men obviously thought they were dating above average. I don't feel bad for their complete shitty taste in partners. And no, usually what happens is they try to keep you around as their emotional tampon or gay male girlfriend so they can cry to you about their "douchebag" boyfriend while running back to him the next day. I agree that you should walk away and never look back if they're not interested in hooking up.
 

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My point is, most of the women who complain about men obviously thought they were dating above average. I don't feel bad for their complete shitty taste in partners. And no, usually what happens is they try to keep you around as their emotional tampon or gay male girlfriend so they can cry to you about their "douchebag" boyfriend while running back to him the next day. I agree that you should walk away and never look back if they're not interested in hooking up.

You can date someone and not think they are above the average guy, it's called settling. Those who keep poisonous and harmful baggage in their lives have to learn a lesson, and they will continue to do the same thing until they learn it. This goes for all people, not just women, and can be said about anything. People, male and female, both have something in their lives that needs to be "thrown away". The people that choose to hold onto this baggage will realize they're mistakes one day. It's just a thing humans do.
 

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You can date someone and not think they are above the average guy, it's called settling. Those who keep poisonous and harmful baggage in their lives have to learn a lesson, and they will continue to do the same thing until they learn it. This goes for all people, not just women, and can be said about anything. People, male and female, both have something in their lives that needs to be "thrown away". The people that choose to hold onto this baggage will realize they're mistakes one day. It's just a thing humans do.
In this case it wouldn't be settling on their part because they passed up on something better but they thought it was average. Which brings me to another point, if their ideal partners are bums and guys with basically nothing going for them in life then we can be sure their view on what's average will be equally skewed.
 

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In this case it wouldn't be settling on their part because they passed up on something better but they thought it was average. Which brings me to another point, if their ideal partners are bums and guys with basically nothing going for them in life then we can be sure their view on what's average will be equally skewed.

We're talking general views here. This "good" guy is just an average guy, generally speaking. Apparently this other "type" of guy has something that the average guy doesn't in her eyes.

My original point was that this talk about a "good" man is equally tired. This so called good man is the average guy. Complaining about wanting a good man is just wishful thinking and a waste of time.
 

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We're talking general views here. This "good" guy is just an average guy, generally speaking. Apparently this other "type" of guy has something that the average guy doesn't in her eyes.

My original point was that this talk about a "good" man is equally tired. This so called good man is the average guy. Complaining about wanting a good man is just wishful thinking and a waste of time.
I don't see them as just average though, that's your point of view. Stop talking generally and keep to the topic, guys aren't the ones constantly going on about the "good men". I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall so I'm just going to end our conversation here.
 

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What is a good man? Apparently they're not average. Personally I see a good man as a rich man, but that's me.
 

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This video is a typical response of someone who didn't get chosen.

In the end it comes down to looks. The "nice guys" that a woman passed up usually aren't sexually attractive to the woman. Majority of the time it's that simple. Same goes for guys, sweet girls who would make great girlfriends or wives, get passed up because they aren't cute enough. That's life.

I mean I've even completely shunned women that were attracted to me. And still they'll try. I've been the nice guy my whole life, and I pull women. It has nothing to do with being a "bad boy", being cool and confident maybe.

What a women really is saying when they says this is, "I want a guy who will treat me like a queen, but is also really handsome".
 
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There are a number of factors at play.

Liberalism has the net effect of turning people into animals. Therefor, human behavior begins to be motivated by basic animal instincts. By basic animal instincts - women want their brains ****ed out - and just about anything that gets the juices flowing beforehand will be pursued.

When you have societies that have been encouraged to follow basic, primal instincts - you get boys who act like small territorial warlords who try to knock up as many girls as possible while taking responsibility for none - and girls who spread their legs for anything that makes them tingle.

There are other instincts - women do have the need to be taken care of and protected - we have a government that pays the bills for them, now - and there are plenty of guys out there trying to buy influence with a girl to try and take care of the other things. It's not necessary for women to actually select a stable mate, and little need for men to appeal to those senses.

Case in point - while working in fast food, I see a lot of girls driving their boyfriends through the drive-through and paying for the meal for both of them... and even when the guy is driving and it does appear to be his car - she is still paying for the meal. It is too disproportionate for it to be a sign of egalitarianism - of women and men splitting the costs of living. The girl is the one who is the bread-winner in the relationship and the boy is simply along for the ride.

Boys trade their mom for a girlfriend - and this behavior has been encouraged by society.

Watch any prime time television show made within the past 30 years. Older males in these programs are portrayed as macho idiots and buffoons. The father is generally in conflict with the mother - the parents in the house act like they hate each other and the children are almost always portrayed as being more competent and sensible than the parents.

The general idea has been to destroy the core family - of a unified mother/father household and to completely destroy the image of healthy males in general. The traditional role of the father within the family has been to provide stability. He is what happens "when your dad gets home" - he reinforces the mother, he earns the bread well enough to allow the mother to fulfill her maternal instincts without undue pressure, and to pursue a career of choice as opposed to a career of duty. He is the peacemaker and the arbiter of justice within the home, quelling storms of emotion and conflict.

That is the traditional role of the man in the household - even if not everyone who sets out to fulfill that role does so with the best of performances.

By turning this role into a mockery, the liberal media has successfully destroyed the core family within the minds of an entire generation. It is no longer seen as an important concept, nor is it seen as something that should be pursued.

This will all eventually default and reset. It can't be maintained, and the societies experiencing it will collapse.

In the mean time, however, it is why girlfriends put up with guys who steal from them, break their stuff, and cheat on them. The image of what they should aim for has been so thoroughly destroyed that they don't really have anything to set as the objective standard. Or - worse - they do not believe they are deserving of the objective standard and thus never allow themselves to pursue it. I've seen that quite a few times - women who are wonderful people and would make wonderful partners who believe they are lower than dirt and thus incapable of finding anything other than the pond scum they are with (and even seem to reason that the pond scum is punishment they deserve for being who they are).

It will all get straightened out, but only after society has abandoned its foolish fornication liberal insanity.
 

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There are a number of factors at play.

Liberalism has the net effect of turning people into animals. Therefor, human behavior begins to be motivated by basic animal instincts. By basic animal instincts - women want their brains ****ed out - and just about anything that gets the juices flowing beforehand will be pursued.

When you have societies that have been encouraged to follow basic, primal instincts - you get boys who act like small territorial warlords who try to knock up as many girls as possible while taking responsibility for none - and girls who spread their legs for anything that makes them tingle.

There are other instincts - women do have the need to be taken care of and protected - we have a government that pays the bills for them, now - and there are plenty of guys out there trying to buy influence with a girl to try and take care of the other things. It's not necessary for women to actually select a stable mate, and little need for men to appeal to those senses.

Case in point - while working in fast food, I see a lot of girls driving their boyfriends through the drive-through and paying for the meal for both of them... and even when the guy is driving and it does appear to be his car - she is still paying for the meal. It is too disproportionate for it to be a sign of egalitarianism - of women and men splitting the costs of living. The girl is the one who is the bread-winner in the relationship and the boy is simply along for the ride.

Boys trade their mom for a girlfriend - and this behavior has been encouraged by society.

Watch any prime time television show made within the past 30 years. Older males in these programs are portrayed as macho idiots and buffoons. The father is generally in conflict with the mother - the parents in the house act like they hate each other and the children are almost always portrayed as being more competent and sensible than the parents.

The general idea has been to destroy the core family - of a unified mother/father household and to completely destroy the image of healthy males in general. The traditional role of the father within the family has been to provide stability. He is what happens "when your dad gets home" - he reinforces the mother, he earns the bread well enough to allow the mother to fulfill her maternal instincts without undue pressure, and to pursue a career of choice as opposed to a career of duty. He is the peacemaker and the arbiter of justice within the home, quelling storms of emotion and conflict.

That is the traditional role of the man in the household - even if not everyone who sets out to fulfill that role does so with the best of performances.

By turning this role into a mockery, the liberal media has successfully destroyed the core family within the minds of an entire generation. It is no longer seen as an important concept, nor is it seen as something that should be pursued.

This will all eventually default and reset. It can't be maintained, and the societies experiencing it will collapse.

In the mean time, however, it is why girlfriends put up with guys who steal from them, break their stuff, and cheat on them. The image of what they should aim for has been so thoroughly destroyed that they don't really have anything to set as the objective standard. Or - worse - they do not believe they are deserving of the objective standard and thus never allow themselves to pursue it. I've seen that quite a few times - women who are wonderful people and would make wonderful partners who believe they are lower than dirt and thus incapable of finding anything other than the pond scum they are with (and even seem to reason that the pond scum is punishment they deserve for being who they are).

It will all get straightened out, but only after society has abandoned its foolish fornication liberal insanity.

thanks obama! :dafq:
 
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