[Suggestion] When you RP in this RP

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If you rp on this site then you know that
Fire>Wind
Wind>Lightning
Lightning>Earth
Earth>Water
Water>Fire

And we also know that for example, A rank Fire would be the same strength as an S rank Wind but if we want to be realistic about this. We should not judge the strength of a technique based solely on its rank but also the scale of it.

By the current rules it would be acceptable but i hope there is no one who actually thinks that for example you could stop Mountain Crush with Chidori Nagashi or that their strength even come close to each other despite rank.
Mountain Crush is twice the size of the Gedo Mazou, by definition it can crush a mountain and chidori nagashi at best could only effect like 3 people at midrange. Do you believe it has the power to destroy a mountain?

That's why i suggest that we take into account a techniques strength by its scale and not only rank since there are large scale techniques which have a low rank.

If we want to be reasonable people then we should stop doing this in the RP, we should stop letting small techniques overpower large techniques because of rank difference.
 

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If you rp on this site then you know that
Fire>Wind
Wind>Lightning
Lightning>Earth
Earth>Water
Water>Fire

And we also know that for example, A rank Fire would be the same strength as an S rank Wind but if we want to be realistic about this. We should not judge the strength of a technique based solely on its rank but also the scale of it.

By the current rules it would be acceptable but i hope there is no one who actually thinks that for example you could stop Mountain Crush with Chidori Nagashi or that their strength even come close to each other despite rank.
Mountain Crush is twice the size of the Gedo Mazou, by definition it can crush a mountain and chidori nagashi at best could only effect like 3 people at midrange. Do you believe it has the power to destroy a mountain?

That's why i suggest that we take into account a techniques strength by its scale and not only rank since there are large scale technique who have a low rank.

If we want to be reasonable people then we should stop doing this in the RP, we should stop letting small techniques overpower large techniques because of rank difference.

@ bolded part goes w/o saying.. Why create a thread for it..? >_>
 

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@ bolded part goes w/o saying.. Why create a thread for it..? >_>
Yeah i could've just come out and said "we have this problem, fix it by using this new template for jutsus from now on." but that would be way too demanding + people hate drastic change so it would equal auto-decline.
You gotta feel it out(i spoiled it).
 
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Nagashi can create a hole large enough to survive in within the mountain crusher; the jutsu won't be stopped, but you'll survive.
 

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It's just easier to use to chidori spear to cut a hole in the mountain slab..
 

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Nagashi can create a hole large enough to survive in within the mountain crusher; the jutsu won't be stopped, but you'll survive.
That wouldn't work, take into account the force of the technique, the rubble made by the blast of creating the hole will hit you too.

@Coyote, even if you could somehow do it the resulting shock of the collision would kill you, its no use.
 

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It would be far too complicated and complications mean more things to argue, making the actual winner impossible to decide. Every battle will have something controversial occurring regarding Elemental Advantage if this idea were to go through.

It should act as a informal rule for battle etiquette rather than something official. If someone lacks battle etiquette, eventually they'll have no one to battle.
 
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That wouldn't work, take into account the force of the technique, the rubble made by the blast of creating the hole will hit you too.

@Coyote, even if you could somehow do it the resulting shock of the collision would kill you, its no use.

the way you're describing it, Mountain Smash is an unavoidable technique, which it is not.
 

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I have to agree with you about the informal rule thing.

@Sharingdork, when you use chidori nagashi you already have a small room left to move in and if you go underground, the shock will kill you too, like an earthquake, same goes for making a hole of the mountain slab to hide within if you even can judging by the force heading towards you, nothing of that sort would work on it.
It's very big and very powerful though it can be countered but the way your describing it is wrong.
 
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I like the idea, and you're right, but I think that it will be too complicated in RP to do that kind of stuff...
 

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I have to agree with you about the informal rule thing.

@Sharingdork, when you use chidori nagashi you already have a small room left to move in and if you go underground, the shock will kill you too, like an earthquake, same goes for making a hole of the mountain slab to hide within if you even can judging by the force heading towards you, nothing of that sort would work on it.
It's very big and very powerful though it can be countered but the way your describing it is wrong.
o_O Mountain Smash is one of, if not THE most powerful earth tech, which causes two large sections of rock to rise from the ground and smash into each other, crushing all between. The sections of rock are bigger than the Gedo Mazo, and have the Iwagakure symbols on them. The technique is S-rank.

How would going underground kill you? That part especially makes no sense...
 

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izanami kaito mentioned the thing you're talking about in a thread long time ago in
 

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Nagashi works fine,you know why?
Nagashi in no way can destroy earth,its just unfocused lightning.It just negates the oponents doton chakra so that the either it stops the slabs when its partially emerged or it just negates the doton chakra so that the earth slabs don't move towards each other even if its completely risen over the surface.
 

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Erm, this is already taken into account by most people. Just sayin'. <_>
 

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Could we please stop discussing each possible jutsu and counter to it? It was an example.

For as long as I can remember, things need to be realistic. What you suggested has already been taken into account a long time ago, and is pretty standard in the RP.
 

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You know that that's the way the RP IS played, right? I mean, what did you think this is, a game of Rock<Paper<Scissors? I have pierced an atsugai (wind jutsu) with chidori sharp spear (lighting) more than once, cause that's how it goes.

About the mountain crush paradigm, you are quite wrong... Chidori Nagashi, channeled through the ground, would destroy the Earth chakra, and, as there would be no chakra, there would be nothing to move the earth. It's not the earth itself that you destroy... so, if you used it, it would still make an earth ring around the target, at long range, but your opponent would be unharmed, as he negated the earth chakra till mid range...
 

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Unnecessary thread is unnecessary. I wonder what senseis are doing these days. And senpais as well.

Size, characteristics, description of the technique counts just as much as Rank. Or do you want to destroy an Earth Rampart with a chidori spear? Its like using a Giant Rasengan to stop Mountain Smash. However, this is all basic knowledge of the RP introduced and supposedly given to you guys when you are trained. If this isn't done, then one needs to reevaluate training and teachers and explain in detail what needs to be said and transmitted during training.
 
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