When you first saw Madara getting stomped

[MrSimple]

What was your first thought after seeing this

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and then that

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?

Because Kishi killed Uchiha's hype and degrade everything he claim for that day and it was awful to see Madara getting stomped like he's a fodder.

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

L...O...and L. XD

 

[Frankenstein]

You call that "getting stomped like he was a fodder"? Ok then I am out

 

[Hipster Madara]

My hashirama side rejoiced but my madara side was like... k, then :|

 

[MrSimple]

L...O...and L. XD

Expected. XD

 

[End of Days]

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[KCMNaruto]

I am sorry to tell you, but you are completly wrong in my opinion obviously


I will try to back up by opinion:

First reason: Madara had just accquired EMS and then fought Hashirama, so he could still lack experience with use of EMS. Prove could be that Kishi showed Madara using Sussano full skeleton form on purpose, he could show Complete form of Sussano already, what a deal ? I am sure MS Madara and MS Izuna has Complete form of Sussano already.

Second reason: Can we be really sure that Madara fought only Hashi ?, no we can't, if we go to next page then we can see Tobirama and Some Senjuu members in the panel. Strange thing is that Tobirama has some dirty on his clothers, Did he fight Madara too ?, maybe I can't prove as well as you can't disprove it, it is just asumption.

Third reason: Entire battle was offscreen, so we don't know how battle looked like, do we ? We don't know if anyone of them had upperhand in this battle and how long, maybe it was changing along with progress of battle. One time supperior Hashirama, few moments later Madara and it could repeat. I didn't see until now Hashirama getting through Sussano, so he could simply outlast him by greater amount of chakra. It would fit well to words Kishi stated in manga some time ago: they were rivals and close ot each other level, so if one of them has much more chakra then other even if they are equal in offence and deffence then who would be supperior ?

Obviously someone with bigger amount of chakra and Senjuu are known for great amount of chakra and powerfull body so it could fit.

Fourth reason: Madara and Hashirama are unwounded only tired with Madara being much more. It could suggest us, readers that Madara and Hashirama were equal in deffence and offence so none of them can overcome each other until one of them run out of chakra.

Fifth reason: Why this battle lasted twenty hour if Hashirama was so much supperior to Madara ?, or maybe he wasn't but he knew that he could outlast Madara in amount of chakra.


Only explanation: Hashirama wasn't fighting with killer intent and Madara was fighting with killer intent, but being ex-friends, maybe both of them tried overpower another side without giving death blow to each other.

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You call that "getting stomped like he was a fodder"? Ok then I am out

I agree with your first half of sentence

getting out of here is not solution lol , let's provide him why you disagree


EDIT: I want make myself clear, I still consider Hashirama>Madara but no by far gap. They are much closer to each other then people think.

 

[MrSimple]

I am sorry to tell you, but you are completly wrong in my opinion obviously


I will try to back up by opinion:

First reason: Madara had just barerly accquired EMS and then fought Hashirama, so he could still lack experience with use of EMS. Prove could be that Kishi showed Madara using Sussano full skeleton form on purpose, he could show Complete form of Sussano already, what a deal ? I am sure MS Madara and MS Izuna has Complete form of Sussano already.

Second reason: Can we be really sure that Madara fought only Hashi ?, no we can't, if we go to next page then we can see Tobirama and Some Senjuu members in the panel. Strange thing is that Tobirama has some dirty on his clothers, Did he fight Madara too ?, maybe I can't prove as well as you can't disprove this fact.

Third reason: Entire battle was offscreen, so we don't know how battle looked like, do we ? We don't know if anyone of them had upperhand in this battle and how long, maybe it was changing along progress of battle. One time supperior Hashirama, few moments later Madara and it could repeat. I didn't see until now Hashirama getting through Sussano, so he could simply outlast him by greater amount of chakra. It would fit well to words Kishi stated in manga some time ago: they were rivals and close ot each other level, so if one of them has much more chakra then other even if they are equal in offence and deffence then who would be supperior ?

Obviously someone with bigger amount of chakra and Senjuu are know for great amount of chakra and powerfull body so it could fit.

Fourth reason: Madara and Hashirama are unwounded only tired with Madara being much more. It could suggest us, readers that Madara and Hashirama were equal in deffence and offence so none of them can overcome each other until one of them run out of chakra.

Fifth reason: Why this battle lasted twenty hour if Hashirama was so much supperior to Madara ?, or maybe he wasn't but he knew that he could outlast Madara in amount of chakra.


Only explanation: Hashirama wasn't fighting with killer intent and Madara was fighting with killer intent, but being ex-friends, maybe both of them tried overpower another side without giving death blow to each other.


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Thanks, if you disagree please explain why you disagree and back up your statements in manga, then I admit I am wrong

Have a nice day



I agree with your first half of sentence

getting out of here is not solution lol , let's provide him why you disagree

Are you trying to say that Madara stands a chance agains Hashirama and his brother, surrounded and outnumbered by his enemy? Sounds like as an excuse if he had his PS either in such situation.

That's why I said that he was roflstomped, I never said Hashirama did that job alone because he can't. That's why it was awful, seeing Madara trying to do something in vain... Also Kishi has never mentioned about that fight before their final fight so it was shocking.

Now this is just repeating, of course we don't know what exactly happened and if Madara was all alone or not which again doesn't matter since he lost that fight awfully. His hype all this time foreshadowing something else.

What if lasted that long? Madara was wasted and Hashirama, Tobirama and the rest not really tbh. And since Kishi rushed this fight this 24 hours of fighting was merely and excuse for me.

Yeah maybe, but even if he was I can't see it lasts a day again otherwise if it was really planned like that I'd wanted to see more of it.


In conclusion you didn't say anything we doesn't know already.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Are you trying to say that Madara stands a chance agains Hashirama and his brother, surrounded and outnumbered by his enemy? Sounds like as an excuse if he had his PS either in such situation.

That's why I said that he was roflstomped, I never said Hashirama did that job alone because he can't. That's why it was awful, seeing Madara trying to do something in vain... Also Kishi has never mentioned about that fight before their final fight so it was shocking.

Now this is just repeating, of course we don't know what exactly happened and if Madara was all alone or not which again doesn't matter since he lost that fight awfully. His hype all this time foreshadowing something else.

What if lasted that long? Madara was wasted and Hashirama, Tobirama and the rest not really tbh. And since Kishi rushed this fight this 24 hours of fighting was merely and excuse for me.

Yeah maybe, but even if he was I can't see it lasts a day again otherwise if it was really planned like that I'd wanted to see more of it.


In conclusion you didn't say anything we doesn't know already.

He does with amaterasu
Anyway, they simply outlasted madara, he had no scratch on him.
So dont worry his hype is safe

 

[paratise]

He did not get stomped; he battled against Tobirama, Hashirama and & 6 Senjus for 24 hours; what did you expect him to do; fodderize all of them while spamming Uchiha techs? Losing a battle does not required to getting stomped; we have seen many battles in the manga which goes almost evenly at the end; but concluded as one side being a winner.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Are you trying to say that Madara stands a chance agains Hashirama and his brother, surrounded and outnumbered by his enemy? Sounds like as an excuse if he had his PS either in such situation.

That's why I said that he was roflstomped, I never said Hashirama did that job alone because he can't. That's why it was awful, seeing Madara trying to do something in vain... Also Kishi has never mentioned about that fight before their final fight so it was shocking.

Now this is just repeating, of course we don't know what exactly happened and if Madara was all alone or not which again doesn't matter since he lost that fight awfully. His hype all this time foreshadowing something else.

What if lasted that long? Madara was wasted and Hashirama, Tobirama and the rest not really tbh. And since Kishi rushed this fight this 24 hours of fighting was merely and excuse for me.

Yeah maybe, but even if he was I can't see it lasts a day again otherwise if it was really planned like that I'd wanted to see more of it.


In conclusion you didn't say anything we doesn't know already.

Exccuse or no, there is no way to prove or disprove that possibility. Kishi left it to us, readers on purpose so we could debate about it and imagine different scenarios.

Remeber that it is flashback from Senjuu point of view, Hashirama Senjuu is telling Sasuke, so maybe Kishi use this opportunity to show Senjuu as best as he can. That reason why he skipped this battle to show Senjuu as supperior.

I will wait with my final conclusion until comes Madara's turn to tell us flashback from Uchiha point of view

I agree it was shocking and unexcepting to see Madara laying on ground. It really decreased his reputation, but when you begin to analyze battle, surrondings, probabilities, and what we know then you can come to same conclusion as me or something similliar.

At the most of your post, you are right. However you only read and look at this manga page without trying to analyze how it could happen etc., it is not insult to you, so sorry if you feel insulted

 

[KCMNaruto]

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This was pretty damn funny as well!shodaimeicon:

 

[BigBlade Master]

I am sorry to tell you, but you are completly wrong in my opinion obviously


I will try to back up by opinion:

First reason: Madara had just accquired EMS and then fought Hashirama, so he could still lack experience with use of EMS. Prove could be that Kishi showed Madara using Sussano full skeleton form on purpose, he could show Complete form of Sussano already, what a deal ? I am sure MS Madara and MS Izuna has Complete form of Sussano already.

Second reason: Can we be really sure that Madara fought only Hashi ?, no we can't, if we go to next page then we can see Tobirama and Some Senjuu members in the panel. Strange thing is that Tobirama has some dirty on his clothers, Did he fight Madara too ?, maybe I can't prove as well as you can't disprove it, it is just asumption.

Third reason: Entire battle was offscreen, so we don't know how battle looked like, do we ? We don't know if anyone of them had upperhand in this battle and how long, maybe it was changing along with progress of battle. One time supperior Hashirama, few moments later Madara and it could repeat. I didn't see until now Hashirama getting through Sussano, so he could simply outlast him by greater amount of chakra. It would fit well to words Kishi stated in manga some time ago: they were rivals and close ot each other level, so if one of them has much more chakra then other even if they are equal in offence and deffence then who would be supperior ?

Obviously someone with bigger amount of chakra and Senjuu are known for great amount of chakra and powerfull body so it could fit.

Fourth reason: Madara and Hashirama are unwounded only tired with Madara being much more. It could suggest us, readers that Madara and Hashirama were equal in deffence and offence so none of them can overcome each other until one of them run out of chakra.

Fifth reason: Why this battle lasted twenty hour if Hashirama was so much supperior to Madara ?, or maybe he wasn't but he knew that he could outlast Madara in amount of chakra.


Only explanation: Hashirama wasn't fighting with killer intent and Madara was fighting with killer intent, but being ex-friends, maybe both of them tried overpower another side without giving death blow to each other.

If you want to know more, please read my page:

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Thanks, if you disagree please explain why you disagree and back up your statements in manga, then I admit I am wrong

Have a nice day



I agree with your first half of sentence

getting out of here is not solution lol , let's provide him why you disagree


EDIT: I want make myself clear, I still consider Hashirama>Madara but no by far gap. They are much closer to each other then people think.

I agree with this.