When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

[naruttebayo]

j-man normal chakra control is still better than naruto, as shown by j-man various ninjutsu technique

yaa sure , but kuubi is the reason naruto can't mold his chakra properly ,

also naruto is still young and can have more jutsu

he has more chakra then jiraiya , some part of his chakra is used to hold kuubi .

and jiraiya is better on that department, because he use it more than naruto,
naruto only better at gathering senjutsu chakra only because plot no jutsu, since j-man take years to master that while naruto did that only in a few weeks or days

jiraiya is more experinced obviously he is better yet , naruto has a lot to learn

@ red - naruto is better at gathering chakra is not plot no jutsu it's because he has more original chakra reserves

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it's simple to understand ^^ you have to make a balance between all 3 types of chakra more chakra you have , you can gather more senjutsu chakra , that is why naruto is better sage .

 

[Rafeal brown]

First part agree totally. Make others agree too.....
Well it was a clear sky then and as we know u cant cast kirin without stormclouds and sasuke cant summon stormclouds, it takes hell lotta heat. So no i dont think its kirin. Now for genjutsu, if ma and pa is fused with him they can inject their chakra and release the genjutsu. Plus were we not talking about a base sasuke WITHOUT SHARINGAN? sasuke is not that good at without sharingan.

sorry, my bad... i actually met base sasuke with sharingan but all the same what happens when sasuke summons a hawk? That would give him the range advantage to prepare and use kirin?? Just how will naruto stop him? See, there's so many questions to answer besides ma and pa breaking naruto out of genjutsu is assuming they were summoned before the battle actually starts.

 

[Anorien16]

Both Sasuke and Naruto went through loads of their own internal/mental pain to reach where they are today. Pain has been known to increase a ninja's power in this series (mental stress anyways) and whether or not they switch their morals because of it is a question of their character and the companions they are with. The other end of the spectrum is true friendship and love, which is the same result but only in the hands of certain people. Naruto has both: one from Kurama/Jiraiya's death and the other through his friends like Iruka since the beginning.

Agree, but i think sasuke rejects both love and friendship offered to him. If u remember naruto was never loved in the begining, he had to earn their respect, but sasuke was mobbed by fans everywhere he went.... naturally the poor boy fell victim to uchiha-attitude syndrome........

 

[Punk Hazard]

susano'o isnt for free...
1. blindness
2. pain on the celluar level, not to mention what one has to go through to just get ms

id comment on more. but the grammar is just terrible, i cant understand half the post

 

[Anorien16]

sorry, my bad... i actually met base sasuke with sharingan but all the same what happens when sasuke summons a hawk? That would give him the range advantage to prepare and use kirin?? Just how will naruto stop him? See, there's so many questions to answer besides ma and pa breaking naruto out of genjutsu is assuming they were summoned before the battle actually starts.

Yes summoning the hawk would give him evasive and higher ground advantages and help him to rest up a bit but will offer naruto to rest up and gather sage chakra too, but i dont think it will help to prepare kirin, cos u still need hell lot of heat (and sasuke cant set the hawk on fire fo that, it wld be like: Roast hawk, still HOT come and get it) Also remember ma and pa can put the hawk on genjutsu or use their tounges to pull the hawk down or use their own suiton to extinguish sasuk's flames, not to meantion SM naruto can jump really high (check when he was practiceing frog kata with pa)

 

[THE FOUTH KAGE]

i disagree that naruto would win. It would be a complete draw both would die case closed

 

[Drakengard]

Agree, but i think sasuke rejects both love and friendship offered to him. If u remember naruto was never loved in the begining, he had to earn their respect, but sasuke was mobbed by fans everywhere he went.... naturally the poor boy fell victim to uchiha-attitude syndrome........

Yep he was under mental stress at the time from having his clan killed and the idea of killing his brother taking over him. Itachi confirmed that he was wrong in the way he brought up Sasuke I believe? He certainly got stronger from the constant mental pain and hatred, but he needs at least some ties with others to get that extra burst of strength of sanity.

 

[johnny335704]

Fact is Fact. Base Naruto is stronger than Base Sasuke.

 

[Anorien16]

Yep he was under mental stress at the time from having his clan killed and the idea of killing his brother taking over him. Itachi confirmed that he was wrong in the way he brought up Sasuke I believe? He certainly got stronger from the constant mental pain and hatred, but he needs at least some ties with others to get that extra burst of strength of sanity.

Yes the poor boy needed that, but u cant blame others for not trying, naruto still cares for him and sakura still loves him but he wont accept that. I think he dedicated so much time on only getting strong that he doesnt know what to do with that stregth once he achived his life's goal of killing itachi. if he really wants to reestablish the uchiha clan as he once said, he is doing it wrong, he is only staining the uchiha name by attacking countries and joining criminal organisations also i dont know if he expects uchiha babies to fall from the sky or to develop uchiha-instant-reproduction no jutsu .... all in all he is totally wayward. Itachi tried to save the uchiha name and give it a new begining with the hero (for killing itachi) sasuke as its patriarch and leader, but sasuke instead of realising itachi's hopes and dreams goes down the usual uchiha will of hatred. He needs to grow up soon.....

 

[warlee]

Current naruto will stomp and rape current sasuke and if their given abilities are take away naruto will still stomp and rape :noc:

 

[naruttebayo]

Current naruto will stomp and rape current sasuke and if their given abilities are take away naruto will still stomp and rape :noc

that's right

 

[Shinraa Tensei]

sasuke is weaker than naruto period

 

[trollinclip]

that's right

That's what's up^^^^^

 

[Anorien16]

i disagree that naruto would win. It would be a complete draw both would die case closed

Its fair to say that they have 50-50 chance in their base form, but naruto do have the edge 60-40:
1. Naruto faster and stronger in sage mode.
2. Has two superb summons.(the greatest advantage in base mode, well sasuke's summon cant cast suiton, genjutsu etc and keep up sage mode for him)
3. Sasuke without sharingan will have slower reflexes.

 

[Pravin5]

Its fair to say that they have 50-50 chance in their base form, but naruto do have the edge:
1. Naruto faster and stronger in sage mode.
2. Has two great summons.(the greatest advantage in base mode)
3. Sasuke without sharingan will have slower reflexes.

^ This

 

[The Eye]

yes base naruto at this point beats base saskue
in the past hell no.

 

[YourMom]

susano'o isnt for free...
1. blindness
2. pain on the celluar level, not to mention what one has to go through to just get ms

id comment on more. but the grammar is just terrible, i cant understand half the post

Tons of grammatical errors in this post.

 

[csouvik41]

If he couldn't even make a clone while in school when everyone else could then his chakra must suck, at the time but still gives perspective to how low it was. Plus every attack that involves his rasengan and varients of it require a clone to make. Plus he needs clones to activate sage mode. If he has to constantly make clones to perform his moves then it stands to reason that without the clones Naruto's attacks become severly limited. Sasuke's isn't that high either but it's a helluva lot more than Naruto's(base chakra)

i think you need to get your stats right...Naruto was uniable to make a clone not because of less chakra but because of less chakra control......and his chakra control was not upto the mark because of the instability caused by kurama's chakra.....most of his own chakra was utilized to keep the nine tails sealed..... that is why when jiraiya loosens the seal his chakra control improves drastically (during the training to stand on water).....

not everyone can be a host to a bijuu....only those having large pool of chakra can be a host....

 

[Pravin5]

i think you need to get your stats right...Naruto was uniable to make a clone not because of less chakra but because of less chakra control......and his chakra control was not upto the mark because of the instability caused by kurama's chakra.....most of his own chakra was utilized to keep the nine tails sealed..... that is why when jiraiya loosens the seal his chakra control improves drastically (during the training to stand on water).....

not everyone can be a host to a bijuu....only those having large pool of chakra can be a host....

^ this agree with it

 

[purewesome]

naruto fanboy fu-ck this thread i am sick of this naruto and minato retard fans