[CC] When Lucifer Learns His Origin

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OK, where to begin where to begin. Tell me what you know about our abilities as far as the passive abilities and usage of senchakra. I'll fill in the blanks as we go
 

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-Transformation into any being(living only and its called Sage Morphing)
-Question on this: Can we transform into a small fly?
-Question on this: When passively transform do we gain like claws that can rip through tissue and wings that increase out speed? Basically go into depth with explaining the transformation passively. I like to get the whole understanding so I know what I can and can't do.
-How fast is the transformation for passive and jutsus?
-Increase natural lifespan depending on rank(mine is twice as long as human)
-Increase strength and durability(+15 taijutsu and +10 ninjutsu)
-More resistance to toxins and pathogenic matters(explain this to me in depth)
-Detect living things through life force(should be able to sense everything from the opponent since our life force is part of our charka)
 
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-Transformation into any being(living only and its called Sage Morphing)
-Question on this: Can we transform into a small fly?
-Question on this: When passively transform do we gain like claws that can rip through tissue and wings that increase out speed? Basically go into depth with explaining the transformation passively. I like to get the whole understanding so I know what I can and can't do.
-How fast is the transformation for passive and jutsus?
-Increase natural lifespan depending on rank(mine is twice as long as human)
-Increase strength and durability(+15 taijutsu and +10 ninjutsu)
-More resistance to toxins and pathogenic matters(explain this to me in depth)
-Detect living things through life force(should be able to sense everything from the opponent since our life force is part of our charka)
OK, I'll try my best to answer all these lol
1. Yes, you can turn into almost anything
2. You could make claws, wings, etc. However, inless it's a specific transformation it would be considered free form. Flying with the wings wouldn't increase your speed, and would also be considered free form if used to dodge so I'd be careful to not try and avoid a jutsu with them until you have learned Chaos which grants flight.
3. Passive is immediate, as for the jutsu's I'd follow the descriptions. Like Gigas for example states the first stage is almost instant but the other stages require 1-2 turns to pass.
4. Toxins and pathogenic matter would be just that. Basically you can't get drunk anymore xD Also things like poison and whatnot would be much less effective on you. The full effect I'm not really sure of as I've never really seen the situation arise where it was put into question.
5. I felt the same way, however Cali specifically stated that life force and chakra are not the same thing. So where as you can sense the life force of living beings, you can't sense their chakra or build up in chakra, despite the clan being able to perfectly mimic another person chakra signature. I know it doesn't make sense, but Cali's word is the law.

Hopefully I've explained that all well. Any more questions or anything I need to elaborate a little better on?
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OK, lets begin then.

(Galian bīsuto) Galian Beast
Type: supplimentary
Rank: S
Range: Short
Chakra: 40
Damage: (+30 to a Taijutsu movement when used in combination)
Description: The Galian Beast is the third Transformation available to Valentines and is also the first they acquire. Like all transformations of the Valentine Clan, The Galian beast too represents a horror or terror faced by society. If Chaos is the physical representation of occult and satanic practices, Death Gigas could be considered the horror of science, a mutated unstable lab experiment and the Galian beast can represent the horror of the wild, untamed animals of nature.
The galian beast transformation takes root in one of man-kinds oldest fears, lycantropes, the valentine takes on the form of a highly muscular, armour clad lycanthrope with large horns protruding from its head. (see image)
In this form, the user gains enhanced strength equal to a sage mode user and the speed at which the valentine can move doubles due to the enhanced musculature and dexterity afforded by the wolf-like form, also, due to the huge claws, horns and teeth, damage inflicted by taijutsu is greatly increased (reflected in the damage section above)
-usable by all valentines
-lasts 4 turns
-the user may not any Valentine Techniques for the following 2 turns.

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Alright, this is one of my favs. Like a Super werewolf lol. You can see from the pic the aesthetic changes with the armo and claws/teeth/horns and all. It also gives you the strength and speed of a SM user. Doubling your speed, and adding +30 to taijutsu involving them which is an active boost and combines with your +15 passive boost. A step up from TSM in my opinion. Any questions?
 
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OK, I'll try my best to answer all these lol
1. Yes, you can turn into almost anything
2. You could make claws, wings, etc. However, inless it's a specific transformation it would be considered free form. Flying with the wings wouldn't increase your speed, and would also be considered free form if used to dodge so I'd be careful to not try and avoid a jutsu with them until you have learned Chaos which grants flight.
3. Passive is immediate, as for the jutsu's I'd follow the descriptions. Like Gigas for example states the first stage is almost instant but the other stages require 1-2 turns to pass.
4. Toxins and pathogenic matter would be just that. Basically you can't get drunk anymore xD Also things like poison and whatnot would be much less effective on you. The full effect I'm not really sure of as I've never really seen the situation arise where it was put into question.
5. I felt the same way, however Cali specifically stated that life force and chakra are not the same thing. So where as you can sense the life force of living beings, you can't sense their chakra or build up in chakra, despite the clan being able to perfectly mimic another person chakra signature. I know it doesn't make sense, but Cali's word is the law.

Hopefully I've explained that all well. Any more questions or anything I need to elaborate a little better on?


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Yeah lol, I never realy post that pic but had it saved so figured I'd share lol.

Now, we will start on the Sins before covering the next transformation.
(Nanatsunotaizai) Seven Deadly Sins
Type: Off/Def/Supp
Rank: S-Rank
Range: N/A
Chakra: 40 (40 cost per turn in abilities that last more than one turn)
Damage:N/A
Description: Though the valentine creed is strict about abandoning the vulgarity of human nature, eventually their personalities show through. To channel this to the benefit of the clan they are guided down one of seven paths by the clan's upper echelon, depending on their personality. These paths hone their abilities, allowing them to harness their emotions and hone them into a weapon. Each path bestows an ability upon the young valentine as a result of harnessing the dominant sin that drove their actions in their human lives before they became members of this misanthropic brotherhood. Thanks to this practice, the valentines have been able to become at peace with their petty needs and transcended it to advance further in their desire to rid themselves of everything that made them "human", thereby separating the valentines from the herd of human cattle that marches slowly towards their and the world's inevitable death.
The abilities that are conferred are as follows:

Wrath is the ability to condense natural energy into a single point, building up pressure and releasing it to amplify the physical blows of the user. This ability causes the users physical attacks to cause pressure shock waves through any medium upon the release of a blow. The shock waves upon contact with human flesh can cause devastating damage to the internal organs and bone structure. This technique adds 30 damage to any taijutsu or other attack that involves landing a physical blow. The shock waves can also be used to disrupt incoming attacks of solid material.
Technique lasts 3 turns and augments any attacks used in that time.

Pride is the ability to sharpen, dull and all around manipulate the Senjutsu Chakra that makes up the aura surrounding the Valentine. This can be used to defend against weapon strikes, and even create slashing and piercing attacks up to mid range. It can be manipulated to create sharp arrow-like strikes, can be altered to create dull, strong, and unwavering strikes like a hammer. With a stabbing or punching motion the aura can create piercing damage. An example of using this technique would be the user dulling the Senjutsu Chakra around his finger and using the aura to defend against sword strikes, or sharping the aura significantly and stabbing that finger into an opponent to puncture through the muscle and flesh, directly striking the internal organs, with piercing like blows. Dependent on it's use this aspect of the technique can cause significant damage but usually isn't deadly by itself unless skillfully and purposely directed. The aura created lasts 4 turns. The aura around the valentine takes on a pale golden color. The damage and power of this aura is A-Rank and using it counts as a move.


Sloth is the ability to force natural energy into an area around a targeted object or person. The air the target is travelling through becomes far more dense, slowing the target dramatically, (for those who dont grasp the concept, it is like trying to run underwater as opposed to running on dry land) The speed of the target is halved while this technique lasts. The natural energy lasts for 2 turns

Greed (+20 damage to taijutsu) A very basic technique. The Valentine simply uses his heightened transformation abilities to increase his or her muscle mass for a brief period of time increasing strength and speed momentarily. This increase in strength is enough for the user to lift five times his own body weight and the speed increase is roughly one and a half times their base speed. Dependent on their rank and skill this can be maintained for longer periods of time being more useful the higher your rank. This jutsu is not affected by the turn restrictions due to it being a very basic Valentine technique. When a stronger state is entered the technique is negated.
Restrictions:
Squire: Can last 1 turn
Dark Neophyte: Can last 2 turns
Dark Knight: Can last 3 turns
Dark Crusader: Can last 4 turns
Dark King: Can last 5 turns


Envy is the ability to use the natural energy around the user to redirect an opponents attack back on them, it doesn't change it in anyway, it is simply redirected back upon the caster. This ability can only redirect attacks equal or lower ranked to this ability, that are not multi-directional and the user must be able to detect and react to it. Cannot be used on genjutsu.

Lust is the ability for the user to take on the form of the perfect object of desire, literally becoming the perfect being that no mortal can help but lust after. This physically perfect specimen displayed before the opponent will cause their hormonal system into overdrive with their desire, distracting the opponent from concentrating properly (1/4 reduced reaction speeds) and leaving them subconsciously unwilling to harm the user (-10 damage to any technique the opponent uses) This effect lasts for 4 turns, or until the opponent forcefully interrupts the hormonal state via physical pain equal to breaking a genjutsu of the same rank.

Gluttony is the ability to harness masses of natural energy from the surrounding area, drawing it into the users body and expelling it into one jutsu, This jutsu adds +40 damage to any elemental attack the user uses directly following this technique.

Notes and Restrictions:

-Each clan member below Knight rank can only possess one ability due to their human lifespans being too short to train in more than one.
-Knights, Due to their vastly increased lifespans have had many years to train and hone their craft, allowing them access to two abilities.
-Crussaders and the Dark King can access all abilities
-Can only be used twice per battle.
-Can only use one emotion at a time.

Wrath, you simply augment any taijutsu attack by condensing a pulse of natural energy in the form of a rippling wave that travels through anything causing massive internal damage. To do this you compress and condense ambient natural energy into a single point that transfers through the struck object with the aim to break it apart from the inside. This ability was made to attack vital organs and the human bone structure directly allowing you to cause massive internal damage crushing bones and bruising and tearing internal organs. It's real power comes in when you use it with strong taijutsu, however even using it with low to mid rank taijutsu or freeform can be devastating smashing bones and tearing through muscle and organs. It can also tear through solid based attacks such as Earth Release, Water Release, Steel Release, etc etc being strong enough to disrupt most solid techniques breaking them apart. My favorite aspect of the ability is that instead of augmenting a single strike it augments every taijutsu blow for 3 turns meaning every strike that lands gains an additional +30 damage.

Pride is the ability to take hold of your aura, the senjutsu chakra that flows through your system and surrounds your own body. From there you can sharpen it making it like a blade or you can make it dull like a hammer increasing the force of a strike. You'll be able to create deep sharp arrow-like strikes that can pierce an opponent and even extend up to mid-range but let's start out with a baby step. Try and cause your aura to become visible by releasing a vast amount of the senjutsu chakra and then continually feed it allowing it to become stronger. If done right you will become the legendary super sai....damn, wrong site. In any case, the aura is a pale yellow glow obviously molded after a SS aura (Basically what my sig looks like).

Any questions?
 

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Wrath what exactly can it defend against like rank wise with Basic Five and something like Steel, Scorch,Ink, Lava(all varations), Boil, Paper, Dust, and Dark, and Wood?

I like to be sure on the ranks with this one and also the Pride also.

Can the aura around us change to a different form or is it the same as your sig?

How does the striking to mid range look like when he pierce or hammer like force?
 

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1. "The shock waves can also be used to disrupt incoming attacks of solid material." I'd take that as I see it, so with-in reason if it is solid you should be able to use it.
2. The technique itself is S ranked so I would assume that's the rank it works for and below. As for Pride it specifically says it's A rank and would follow standard strengths and weaknesses of senjutsu chakra.
3. I would imagine it's the same as my sig though I guess you could describe it however you like.
4. I like to imagine it's sorta like how a green lantern ring is limited by your will. The dull strikes and piercing strikes could look similar depending on whether or not you sharpen or dull the chakra. Hammer like strikes I think should be flatter in nature where as piercing ones would be arrow or spear like.

I think I covered it xD Any other questions?
 

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Death Gigas (Kyoujin Ojou)
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S
Range: Short
Chakra: 40 (20/turn)
Damage: N/A
Description: Death Gigas is the second transformation of Valentines, after Chaos. Like all transformations of the Valentine Clan, Death Gigas too represents a horror or terror faced by society. If Chaos is the physical representation of occult and satanic practices, Death Gigas could be considered the horror of science, a mutated unstable lab experiment. The transformation is slow to take effect and reaches mature form after two complete turns has passed since the activation.
Activation: The user performs a series of hand seals activating the body as it begins to absorb natural energy continuously. Immediately after activation the user’s physical prowess improves comparable to that of a standard Sage mode user. This involves body durability and physical strength alone. The technique is the most premature state of transformation and there is no visible difference in appearance.
Initial Stage, Giga Dunk: The user achieves stage one after 1 complete turn has passed since activation. By this stage, the user has absorbed enough natural energy to induce a change in his appearance. His body begins to bulk up, increasing both muscle mass and height. Natural energy’s distribution on a cellular level result in the user transforming into a hulking monster. The intense amount of natural energy present in the users body makes his skin green and he gains berserking tendencies similar to Jugo’s Clan. Despite that he still maintains his composure and is able to make logical actions. The transformation raises the user’s speed comparable to standard Sage mode and his physical strength 2x (For Taijutsu techniques and Ninjutsu that involve physical strength).
Final Stage, Live Wire: Live Wire is the final stage of Death Gigas manifesting the real form of this transformation. The stage requires immense amounts of Natural energy that only a Valentine could handle. The mode raises the muscle mass to maximum the human body could allow (4x the users base strength). Even when all natural energy is used up to induce this sudden growth, the transformation still continues to collect more. As result a green aura appears around the user because of the condensed senjutsu chakra leaking from the body, bolts of electricity appear as well. The stage is named after this particular appearance, “Live Wire” refers to the wires of electricity flowing through the body. The final ability granted by this stage is not the boost in physique, its a cellular mutation. The initial stage Giga Dunk spreads natural energy across the body on a cellular level, reaching this stage suggests that the mutation took effect and the cells have been augmented. Sage mode makes the body stronger, Death Gigas makes the humans cells stronger: A human cell has a fixed capacity of absorbing energy, the amount of energy body always maintains within itself is roughly 100 watts. Exceeding this limit too much results in cellular damage and the primary advantage of Death Gigas is that this limit is exceeded way beyond normal with the help of natural energy. This makes the user incredibly resistant to damage, granting complete immunity to techniques up to A rank (within reason this mainly applies to blunt force impact or energy based techniques, cutting techniques will still cause damage just a greatly reduced level e.g. An A-rank cutting attack would do the damage of a C-rank). The user also gains tremendous physical strength allowing the user to lift up large summon with relative ease (Ordinary Sage mode allows the user to lift objects many times larger than himself. Reference: Naruto lifted the toad statue right after entering sage mode) as well as to jump huge distances easily across the field.
Disadvantages:
-Once the transformation is initiated it cannot be stopped or prevented, unless done forcefully using Anti Senjutsu equipment. (Check clan description)
-Altogether the transformation Lasts 5 turns, and requires 2 turns to mature leaving the actual transformation usable only for 3 turns.
-Genjutsu cannot be used once Giga Dunk stage is reached. The user cannot use Ninjutsu above A rank except raiton once Live Wire is reached and the user is left severely exhausted once the transformation ends.
Restrictions:
-Usable once per battle.
-Dark Knight Rank or Higher
- Grants a +20 damage boost to Raiton jutsu in live wire stage

Alright next up is Death Gigas. You begin by preforming a string of handseals then activating a process where your body begins to engulf massive amounts of Natural Energy. This is considered the activation phase where your body is absorbing and adjusting to the Natural Energy. It increases your strength and durability to that of a Sage Mode user. After waiting a turn you can initiate a change to your body structure increasing your height and muscle mass. The Natural Energy has been distributed on a cellular level and therefor your entire body changes. This stage increases your strength x2 allowing you to augment the damage done by taijutsu and ninjutsu that are based upon physical strength. The final stage is live wire. The natural energy over charges the cells allowing you to increase your physical strength to it's utmost being a 4xs increase to strength augmenting damage dealt by physical taijutsu and ninjutsu. It also gives an added 20 damage to raiton an an immunity to A rank techniques excluding cutting based techniques which are severely dulled doing minor damage. A rank techniques like (Fūton: Kaze No Yaiba) - Wind Style: Wind Blade are only able to cause minor damage akin to C rank techniques. You can pick up massive objects the size of large summoning creatures and toss them with ease. Genjutsu cannot be used once Giga Dunk stage is reached. You also won't be able to use Ninjutsu above A rank except raiton once Live Wire is reached and you'll be left severely exhausted once the transformation ends. Gigas Drunk only lasts 3 turns unless you have a turn extension due to being a high ranking member of the clan. Any questions?
 
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Why only Lightning? That is very odd.
Ima guess it's because of this part, "As result a green aura appears around the user because of the condensed senjutsu chakra leaking from the body, bolts of electricity appear as well. The stage is named after this particular appearance, “Live Wire” refers to the wires of electricity flowing through the body." So the electricity build up inside you would add to the strength of raiton techniques
 

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Ima guess it's because of this part, "As result a green aura appears around the user because of the condensed senjutsu chakra leaking from the body, bolts of electricity appear as well. The stage is named after this particular appearance, “Live Wire” refers to the wires of electricity flowing through the body." So the electricity build up inside you would add to the strength of raiton techniques
Lol I knew that just trying to make sure you were on your toes.
 
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