When Kakashi blitzed Kaguya...

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Kakashi got the Double MS of obito shortly after the latter died.
The MS of Obito was powered by rikudos chakra.
He was able to blitz Kaguya, the latter was put a bit on a disadvantage, but kakashi was able to blitz her in one panel.
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I asked myself whether the rikudo chakra which was used by obito to improve his kamui was giving to kakashis body, too or did it only affected his eyes.

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in this scan translated by *********** (in my opinion the more trustful translation) Kakashi only talks about the eyes, nothing else.

maybe someone does know the viz scan ?
I believe that it was Kakashis original food speed, but i could be wrong.
im not saying that kakashi is faster than kaguya nor that he could keep up with her in taijutsu.

i just wanted to show that kakashis foot speed (shunshin) should be not underestimated, especially not when kakashi has a small advantage (in this situation kakashi was faster near kaguya because she flew in his direction with high speed too, there were about to clash each other)
Kaguya also was surprised of kamui, which put her also in a disadvantage, but the speed of kakashi was his own food speed just in the right timing, in my opinion.


The Mangekyou sharingans powered with the rikudos chakra, allowed kakashi to see through kaguyas speed and surprising her with kamui, which gave him an opening to strike her, but the striking speed was his own human foodspeed without any power ups, i think.
Current kakashi would easily gets blitzed by kaguya now that he lacks the sharingan, no disuccion !

What do you think about this ?
 

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Kakashi was falling, he wasn't flying or running or anything Lol
 

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i have a viz membership... you want me to go check what that page is translated as?

if it is okay for you ?
i wanna check the part where kakashi says, that the eyes of obito were infused by rikudo.
I think only the eyes of kakashi was powered not his body, so his speed with he blitzed kaguya is the same as always.
Thank you
 

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Kakashi's speed was enhanced with Rikudo chakra, he didn't say in that panel because he used a dojutsu (Kamui + Susanoo) so he focused on that. But as fast as Kakashi is, and he is one of the fastest characters even without the Rikudo chakra power up, he can't outspeed and blitz ****ing Kaguya like that when normally he is physically as fast as Minato or lower Gates Gai.
 

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Kakashi's speed was enhanced with Rikudo chakra, he didn't say in that panel because he used a dojutsu (Kamui + Susanoo) so he focused on that. But as fast as Kakashi is, and he is one of the fastest characters even without the Rikudo chakra power up, he can't outspeed and blitz ****ing Kaguya like that when normally he is physically as fast as Minato or lower Gates Gai.
you misunderstood my post.
ofc he is no match for her without the sharingans and kaguya was put on an disadvantage, but i think the eyes were the only thing which was powered by the rikudo, but i t could also be that his whole body was powered, i doesn't understand that part where obito gave kakashi his soul.
 

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he has something better then rikudo chakra, kakashi chakra!
 

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Yes it was incredible powerfull and epic move and power up.

However I believe it was not how you interpreted it.
I meant it would be more like:

Kaguya was flying towards kakashi AT FULL SPEED while SHE DIDN"T KNOW IT didn't hit Kakashi until he was closing on her while falling down. Exactly, Kakashi used momentum of falling down and Kaguya's surprise to not knowing about phasing ability to get close to incomming Kaguya while she herself was charging at him at full speed shorting the distance between them.

That how Kakashi could Kamui Raikiri Kaguya using her own speed against her. Although the way he could see Kaguya's moving towards him and knowing when to strike is perfect example how powered up Obito's MS were. His body was not powered up, maybe a bit with Rikudou chakra but if MS's translation is correct they only eyes were powered up and it was shown in the manga
 
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Yes it was incredible powerfull and epic move and power up.

However I believe it was not how you interpreted it.
I meant it would be more like:

Kaguya was flying towards kakashi AT FULL SPEED while SHE DIDN"T KNOW IT didn't hit Kakashi until he was closing on her while falling down. Exactly, Kakashi used momentum of falling down and Kaguya's surprise to not knowing about phasing ability to get close to incomming Kaguya while she herself was charging at him at full speed shorting the distance between them.

That how Kakashi could Kamui Raikiri Kaguya using her own speed against her. Although the way he could see Kaguya's moving towards him and knowing when to strike is perfect example how powered up Obito's MS were. His body was not powered up, maybe a bit with Rikudou chakra but if MS's translation is correct they only eyes were powered up and it was shown in the manga

you could be right, but to me it looks like kakashi was moving forward by pushing of his brocken susanno and i cant belive kaguya was to fast for her self.
i also thik that only kakashis eyes were powered by the rikudo chakra from obito, the senario also shows that kakashi is still the best tactican who forms the best stratagies.
In the end your explanaition makes more sense, thanks :)
 

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Yes it was incredible powerfull and epic move and power up.

However I believe it was not how you interpreted it.
I meant it would be more like:

Kaguya was flying towards kakashi AT FULL SPEED while SHE DIDN"T KNOW IT didn't hit Kakashi until he was closing on her while falling down. Exactly, Kakashi used momentum of falling down and Kaguya's surprise to not knowing about phasing ability to get close to incomming Kaguya while she herself was charging at him at full speed shorting the distance between them.

That how Kakashi could Kamui Raikiri Kaguya using her own speed against her. Although the way he could see Kaguya's moving towards him and knowing when to strike is perfect example how powered up Obito's MS were. His body was not powered up, maybe a bit with Rikudou chakra but if MS's translation is correct they only eyes were powered up and it was shown in the manga

Kaguya wasn't flying anywhere. She shot an arrow at him. If she was moving full speed she would have passed her own arrow/bone spear.

@atd: in manga panda he says my eyes aren't the only thing powered up by Rikudo chakra which would make sense since the portion he received isn't solely yin(eyes) or yang (body). It's both. He blitzed her, but it's due to rikudo chakra boost.
 

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Kakashi is dashing toward kaguya using unmentioned way in the manga, maybe from hago and obito power giving him temporary leaping power from susanoo body and dash toward kaguya and using kamui intangibility to surprise kaguya and raikire'd her in the shoulder
 
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