[Discussion] When does Obama's dictatorship begin?

[TheAncientCenturion]

2008, but don't worry. Mitt Romney will end it in the next election.

 

[Funky Tiger]

#ronpaul2004

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

#Ronpaulagain2012

 

[Anorien16]

The regurgitation is real.

Less real than your Diarrhea.

The premise of the thread is to find out when he plans to show himself as a dictator. Considering there's so much overwhelming evidence that he's already in motion(Sarcasm).

Which IS the stupid point considering no Dictator shows himself as a Dictator ... he always shows himself as very genuinely caring person resonating with the public opinion .... Until its too late.

I think the president is just a good figure. Agreed, that he's no better or worse than most, but he is good at giving speeches and is very charismatic... Just like Hit-...!!!

Sweet talking is great boon in politics ... But Obama is not even worth Hitlar's spit when it comes to charisma and capability (Even though he too was a kind of a puppet ... but a good puppet).

Obama has been trying to save the middle class though. Does that mean he's not a communist?

Politicians 'try' many things, but the results they produce maybe entirely different. As I said, you judge if its getting better for the middle class or not while Obama gives it all to save them ....

I tend to think the extremes on the right are more crazy than the left extremist.

And is it not surprisingly you are not a fan of the right wing and regularly try to fling the insult teabagger.

Teabagger logic is just too strong.

Says the one who expects a dictator to declare himself publicly .... Be sure that if there is a power rising he would be smarter than you.

 

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Which IS the stupid point considering no Dictator shows himself as a Dictator ... he always shows himself as very genuinely caring person resonating with the public opinion .... Until its too late.

But there will be clues and hints. Which is the extreme right wing theory... Which is why I made this thread...

Politicians 'try' many things, but the results they produce maybe entirely different. As I said, you judge if its getting better for the middle class or not while Obama gives it all to save them ....

If republicans actually tried to compromise with the president things could get done. However they don't, and scream and holler when he uses his executive order to get around them.

Says the one who expects a dictator to declare himself publicly .... Be sure that if there is a power rising he would be smarter than you.

The thread is about the theory that Obama is a socialist dictator. Which means there is proof. I only want to know more proof than what I posted in the OP.

 

[PT1990]

Obama is no dictator, hes just a sh*tty president, at least when it comes to foreing affairs. I dont live in the USA, so I cant really say much about his domestic policy.

 

[Narusenpou]

well i don't give a f**k

 

[Aim64C]

I've been told too many times on the internet and in real life that Obama is a dictator that wants to take over the government. So I wanted to ask the question; when does it begin? Has it already started?

When a nation goes from being 'free' to being under the rule of a dictator, it's hard to point at any one specific moment as the time the dictatorship has "begun." You simply wake up one day and realize that you are in one - and that the signs were obvious all along to those willing to see them.

Thus, the dictatorship "begins" when you can no longer deny its existence.

Currently, I do not actually expect Obama to become a dictator - although he -acts- like one and is clearly attempting to expand the powers of the Presidency to grant the office an indefinite amount of unilateral authority.

The problem is not so much how much power -Obama- has, but the power he is granting to people who wield his ideology; which is that those in government are properly enlightened so as to command the efforts of the people despite their individual wishes.

What does Obama plan to do when he is kicked out of office to make room for the next president? Or is he amassing his army to take over so he can remain a dictator? Is he getting help from ISIS?

The Justice Department was just authorized $163M to spend on 'staffing positions to improve relations between police and community activist groups.'

That basically translates to hiring the New Black Panthers to be official DOJ liaisons with local police departments - effectively using the New Black Panthers (and possibly the Nation of Islam in some areas) as a contracted arm of the federal government placed directly in the way of local police departments.

When you also consider that protesters in Ferguson were paid to protest by various interest groups (some of which have received federal grants, but many have received funding from Soros), it becomes clear that the objective is to trigger what can only be described as a civil war.

Obama isn't a leader. He's an agitator. He is exceptionally effective at saying just enough to piss off half of the people, and not enough to appease the other half. In all likelihood, he will be killed by someone from the New Black Panthers or otherwise aligned with his ideology (but he's not aligned enough for their liking). The harlot is always consumed by the beast she rides.

So far the only reason for calling him a dictator I've heard is his abuse of the executive order. Using it to break laws or for unconstitutional reasons. I would surrender that point if every president with the ability to use an executive order did not do the same.

Allow Obama to explain this to you:

[video=youtube;4KnCBJEj4Ek]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KnCBJEj4Ek[/video]

Executive orders are allowed to define how the President is going to exercise the powers granted to him by Congress. He is not allowed to expand these authorities beyond what Congress gives him, and he is not allowed to act AGAINST the laws and responsibilities that Congress has passed to the Executive branch/office to exercise. If Congress passes a law stating that there are to be guards on the border, the President can decide how to go about setting up those guards and the like (anything that isn't specifically delineated in the law/act), but he can't say: "I'm not going to put guards on the border ... or just tell them not to guard." Nor can he authorize more funding for them other than what has been issued by Congress (except through his own discretionary budget).

Obama has routinely attempted to use executive orders to act against the laws as written by Congress or to do things that are not within the express powers of his office. This is why his own Supreme Court nominees (who are obscenely liberal) have struck down his executive orders on multiple occasions:

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"Did you know the Obama administration’s position has been defeated in at least 13 – thirteen — cases before the Supreme Court since January 2012 that were unanimous decisions? It continued its abysmal record before the Supreme Court today with the announcement of two unanimous opinions against arguments the administration had supported.

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So even the liberal justices on the Court, including the two justices appointed by President Barack Obama — Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor — have disagreed with the DOJ’s positions. As George Mason University law professor Ilya Somin told the Washington Times last year, “When the administration loses significant cases in unanimous decisions and cannot even hold the votes of its own appointees . . . it is an indication that they adopted such an extreme position on the scope of federal power that even generally sympathetic judges could not even support it.” "

Then again, this is a black president. The rules are different for him .

He's a progressive. The rules are different for progressives. In a world where the people in media believe they know what you want to watch, they support people in government who believe they know how is best for you to live.

So is Obama low-key a dictator? Is he low-key a Muslim?

First and foremost, Obama is a narcissist.

In many ways, this precludes him attaining true status as a dictator and certainly means he can't be considered of any religion other than his own self-worship.

Obama may be the one to create a dictatorship, but he will most likely not head it for long. First, any dictatorship with him at its head would fail. He is so engrossed in his own ideology that he is not capable of orchestrating a dictatorship to any kind of cause or satisfying the human drive for a productive outlet. Second, because he more effective at agitating than leading, he will likely be nixed by his own supporters for not being as rabid as they are. To many, even now, Obama appears to be 'too soft' in dealing with conservatives. Those people will, most probably, be the ones to ransack the white house and kill him in the event they should ever capture him.

On the issue of Islam; Obama was born in an Islamic country and raised there for several years. His father was a Muslim, and he has surrounded himself with a number of Muslims. This does not mean that he is a Muslim. Obama has created himself as a god for himself. However, he believes that the world would be better off if Islam were to allowed to unify and become a dominant force in the world.

So, no - he is not a Muslim and he would be put to death in many Islamic countries (to include ISIS, who have publicly announced that he is one of their main targets within the U.S.). That said, his personal bias is toward Islam and he believes it to be a superior religion in comparison to other world religions.

 

[The Work]

Didn't he already do like a crap load of executive orders beyond his jurisdiction claimed by Congress?

 

[Aim64C]

Didn't he already do like a crap load of executive orders beyond his jurisdiction claimed by Congress?

His administration has been ruled against by the Supreme Court unanimously 12 times since January of 1012.

That means 12 times, both of his own supreme court nominees said he went too far.

It's not just a claim by Congress.

 

[Babadook]

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[EnderWolf1013]

In all honesty though life as a middle aged german man wasn't all that bad.

Inb4peoplethinkI'msayinghitlerwasagoodguy