When do you think

[Narutohokage324]

Naruto and Sasuke surpassed Hashirama/Madara?

With Rikudou powers? Imagine a scenario without them too. It would be best to estimate an age.

Feel like the Last Naruto/Sasuke surpassed all their descendants at the ages of Nineteen. Naruto shattering the moon surface with a simple punch, mind you he did not break the floor like "PUNCH THE GROUND JUTSU", he literally removed the ground from the entire floor in a large radius. Sasuke being able to destroy a meteorite with a simple chidori (or chidori nagashi/new variant) simply with his potency of chakra alone. I don't doubt in the least that Sasuke used had more power up his sleeve, imagine if he had used a chidori and Shinra Tensei combo? GG Moon ~

Without Rikudou powers? I would say about the ages of 23ish, maybe. What about you guys?

EDIT; I meant without them using Rikudou Bijuu Sage Mode (Naruto) / Tomoe Rinnegan (Sasuke)

 

[A$AP Wap]

sage boosts were such asspulls

 

[Mahesvara]

Neither surpassed JJ Madara.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

Neither surpassed JJ Madara.

Uhh thats bs because he lost

 

[A$AP Wap]

Uhh thats bs because he lost

not by their hands though

 

[Mahesvara]

Uhh thats bs because he lost

To them? Nope.

The strongest are not always the victors, Kaguya and Madara being prime examples

 

[-Punk-]

Never, they were handed the power Lol. dafuq.

 

[Narutohokage324]

Never, they were handed the power Lol. dafuq.

BSM Naruto gets mid-high diffed by Hashirama. So a few years later Rikudou enhanced should do the job.

Same with EMS Sasuke vs EMS Madara. Plus I said without Rikudou emplacement estimate an age. Handouts or not, it happened sadly. I sort of meant outside of Rinnegan/RSM.

I'll add that in the OP

 

[A$AP Wap]

it was bs because naruto went through like 4 forms (power-ups) in one night just to get on the enemy's level

 

[Shruikan]

I think vote 2 Sasuke and Naruto solo JJ Madara

 

[Shruikan]

it was bs because naruto went through like 4 forms (power-ups) in one night just to get on the enemy's level

Which is why the power scaling was all over the place in the war arc.At times laughable and horrible

 

[Ansatsuken]

The moment they get Hugohomo powerup, they already surpasses HashiMad.

I estimate around 20 yrs old

 

[Narutohokage324]

it was bs because naruto went through like 4 forms (power-ups) in one night just to get on the enemy's level

Two and a mix, but it was the power scaling itself they had to deal with. Edo Tensei's were nerfed, and the enemies were extremely difficult. Itachi played a big role here too with stopping the ET technique and Nagato

 

[A$AP Wap]

Two and a mix, but it was the power scaling itself they had to deal with. Edo Tensei's were nerfed, and the enemies were extremely difficult. Itachi played a big role here too with stopping the ET technique and Nagato

because kishi had to nerf nagato