When did Madara died? Let's check the poll!

When did Madara died? And what is the link with Nagato and Tobi?

  • Madara died against Hashirama, Tobi made it all up

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Madara somehow survived the fight, to live until young Nagato

    Votes: 9 52.9%
  • Madara died against Hashimara, Nagato talked to his soul through his path

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Madara survived Hashimara and after meeting Nagato, he created Tobi to be his shell

    Votes: 3 17.6%

  • Total voters
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YUP! I just did created yet another thread about it!! Deal with it, haters move along thanks.
So let's get some data on what people think here.
-Did Madara died during the fight against Hashimara? And Tobi just made the whole story up?
-Madara somehow survived the fight, to live until young Nagato.
-Madara died against Hashimara, Nagato talked to his soul through his path
-Madara died long after the hashimara fight but somehow copied his personality, will, and memories to a Zetsu clone? right after meeting with Nagato.

Let's go!
 

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i think somehow the real madara was alive till some years ago maybe he knew nagato and he was killed by the fake madara(perhaps double crossed). Go back and look at when madara confronted kisame and admitted he was controlling the mizukage he wasnt wearing a mask at that time so maybe he died sometime after that. Also considering the fact that nagato has the power to bring ppl back to life its not suprising if he thought that he could be brought back to life by him.
 
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i think somehow the real madara was alive till some years ago maybe he knew nagato and he was killed by the fake madara(perhaps double crossed). Go back and look at when madara confronted kisame and admitted he was controlling the mizukage he wasnt wearing a mask at that time so maybe he died sometime after that. Also considering the fact that nagato has the power to bring ppl back to life its not suprising if he thought that he could be brought back to life by him.
Damn it I forgot that option!!!!!!!! How do I update a poll???
 

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I think he survived, barely and met nagato. Or he was summoned by Nagato's rinnegan at some point after his death (hence, he would recognize/expect nagato to be the reason for his revival) - but it was not a complete/fully mastered summoning.

Time will tell!
 
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One thing is for certain, somehow he knows who Nagato was, and that means he died recently maybe some 10 or 15 years ago or around that time, don't you guys think?
not necessarily... Maybe Nagato focused his path on communicating to dead souls and accessed Madara :). A BIG MAYBE, which is what I voted by the way.
But if that's not the case, then by process of elimination it has to be what you said :)
 

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That's not really possible I mean look at how young the edo madara is? But when the first hokage was edo he was pretty young too. Who knows. My theory is that Madara planned the creation of nagato and of a rinnegan that's how he knows of it's existance and he since he knew of edo that means he lived up to when the 2nd hokage created it.
 

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That's not really possible I mean look at how young the edo madara is? But when the first hokage was edo he was pretty young too. Who knows. My theory is that Madara planned the creation of nagato and of a rinnegan that's how he knows of it's existance and he since he knew of edo that means he lived up to when the 2nd hokage created it.
Maybe the edo tensei bring one when he/she was at his prime. For most people it is during their young years :) for some, it is when they grow old (Maybe chiyo was better when she was old, not young) Which would explain it.

And By the way, the 2nd was Hashimara's brother, so maybe he had already created the edo tensei before the actual fight.
 

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YUP! I just did created yet another thread about it!! Deal with it, haters move along thanks.
So let's get some data on what people think here.
-Did Madara died during the fight against Hashimara? And Tobi just made the whole story up?
-Madara somehow survived the fight, to live until young Nagato.
-Madara died against Hashimara, Nagato talked to his soul through his path
-Madara died long after the hashimara fight but somehow copied his personality, will, and memories to a Zetsu clone? right after meeting with Nagato.

Let's go!
all of those options,exept maybe the last 1,seem quite possible but considering there are many ways madara died,i guess we have to wait until kishi reveals the big secret

hmm...right now i think i go with the 1st option
 

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Madara somehow knew about Nagato, but his Edo form he looks young and around the age of than Hokage Hashirama. Madara should've looked like around 60-70 years born when Nagato was born. Therefore his Edo should be the same age, but isn't.
 

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sigh madara was wearing the clothes we saw him fight hashimara in, and edo revives you at the point before you died, i think he did die that day, i guess we'll have to explain how he knew about nagato, maybe he knew his parents who knows,till then the threads need to stop
 

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Is it specifically stated that Edo summons people in the form they took at thier death or is that an assumption?
Did anyone considered that Edo doesn't bring you back the way you were when you died, and in actuality brings you back based on the DNA used for the summon.
Perhaps the reason most of the summons appear the way they did at the time of thier death is because Kabuto was basically grave robbing, and his DNA came from their corpses.
It could be that the DNA Kabuto used for Madara came from the blades used at the battle between the two clan leaders or some other source from a long time ago as opposed to a more recent time or from the corpse itself.
Of course if it says that is a rule of Edo in the manga specifically I apologize .
 

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Edo Tensei brings you back as you were when you died. Madara looks relatively young and is still in his battle gear. Just some food for thought
Just thought of my counter argument against you :) If that was the case: Itachi would have poped blind.

Is it specifically stated that Edo summons people in the form they took at thier death or is that an assumption?
Did anyone considered that Edo doesn't bring you back the way you were when you died, and in actuality brings you back based on the DNA used for the summon.
Perhaps the reason most of the summons appear the way they did at the time of thier death is because Kabuto was basically grave robbing, and his DNA came from their corpses.
It could be that the DNA Kabuto used for Madara came from the blades used at the battle between the two clan leaders or some other source from a long time ago as opposed to a more recent time or from the corpse itself.
Of course if it says that is a rule of Edo in the manga specifically I apologize .
I don't think it is specifically stated... if anybody could bring a manga page number where it was stated it would be welcome. Personally don't have time right now to do so (I'm procrastinating right now lol).
And if it did bring back the person according to his state when blood/organ was taken, it would mean Itachi was at best, almost blind as an edo tensei (Granted he could have been full blind if blood was preleved from his dead corpse, but he did bleed from his eye a few instants before.) My guess is he hasn't complained about his vision so he sees quite well :).
 
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