When did Madara became 'haunted' by Indra??

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As wens like people forget that chakra isn't the same as ones spirit...

Unless this isn't the case in NV...
 

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What are you saying? The whole theory of reincarnation Hagoromo stated was for one brother to prove his ideals better against the other.

Can you show me where he says that? What i was reading is that they Reincarnated and started to fight over and over again, not that they are reincarnated just to fight.
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Also, Reincarnation on the basis of birth is wronged. Here :
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"You seem to have something that attracts people to you. ... and why ashura would choose you to reincarnate."
 

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Therefore, Madara's soul = Sasuke's soul?
What confuses me is: Madz shouldn't have been able to be redirected because his soul was inside Sasukeh...

Rightttt?
 

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"You seem to have something that attracts people to you. ... and why ashura would choose you to reincarnate."

Okay so they share a soul, that other guy was right:p
 

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i think its when he hit that sharingan....when his and hashi parents and lil bros meet up for the first time and he told hashi his last name...i think since then...but good question tho
 

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"You seem to have something that attracts people to you. ... and why ashura would choose you to reincarnate."

Ashura choosing Naruto doesn't mean that its not from birth. Have no clue how you came to this conclusion. Especially since Hashirama's death and Naruto's birth are events that took place far far apart of each other, meaning Ashura didn't directly reincarnate into anyone.

Reincarnation is from birth. Not sure where you would get any other conclusion.
 

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What confuses me is: Madz shouldn't have been able to be redirected because his soul was inside Sasukeh...

Rightttt?

Madara and Indra and Sasuke don't all share the same soul. Indra's chakra/soul is simply inside of Sasuke after leaving Madara.
 
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Since the beginning, he's is the Reincarnation of Indra, so that means Indra was already within him from birth. He wasn't possessed by him like some kinda ghost.

If he was Indra's reincarnation from birth? Why his deeds didn't match Indra's when he was a child. If he was Indra himself, Why he changed a little, just at beginning of his life and got back to his own theories and views once he matured? And that too all of a sudden?

Therefore, Madara's soul = Sasuke's soul?
Indra and Ashura are reborn every time a great rivalry is born from two powerful people who will greatly affect the world they live in. Madara was never born with Indra's soul/spirit in him, he only shared Indra's eyes, Hashirama only shared Ashura's ability to find his strength in others, and value in people's lives.

Once Hashirama declared Madara his rival, when they were younger while competing in a stone tossing game thats is when Indra's and Ashura's rivalry and souls were reborn into them. If you know what happened afterwards, they ended up changing history, though they never got peace.

The rivalry stopped once Hashirama died, and the soul of Indra and Ashura were reborn again into Naruto and Sasuke when Naruto declared Sasuke when they were kids after sasuke's parents were killed. Just like Hashirama, Naruto felt a great bond,rivalry and hatred towards sasuke. Sasuke is Sasuke, Naruto is Naruto but the rivalry the two share are that of Indra and Ashura.
 
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