People who smoked marijuana heavily have only had a decrease in IQ by a few points after long term usage, not becoming zombies or some form of retardation. Meanwhile cigarettes lead to cancer and alcohol ruins the liver and pancreas from long term usage; ignoring the other flaws as drunk driving and second hand smoke. Marijuana is not this fatal drug and/or worse than cigarettes, alcohol, or some prescribed medications.
[Debate] What's your view on legalizing weed?
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Scooby Doo
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I saw regular smokers becoming retarded so...
But then yeah, legalize weed for medic purposes. But I think both of us know that 99% of users dont smoke it because they have cancer.
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It's not moderate if it's every day. Just like how you can consume sweets moderately to avoid the health risks, you can use weed moderately to avoid the health risks. I know people who can smoke weed in a controllable manner, and are normal, fully functioning people. Everything on this planet when taken out of their relative moderation can be harmful. The issue isn't the product. Instead of teaching people weed is super dangerous and using it will **** your life up, we should be teaching people how to use it wisely and not be dumb****s.
For of you people who talk so badly about weed. Can I ask have you ever tried it before?? Cause how can you judge something with out any experience with it??? If your just talking from hear/say and what you picked up from other people how are you giving your OWN opinion? Your just combining and saying stuff from others.... And by try it I don't mean you took 1 hit. I mean you smoked enough times to know the different effects and feelings.
There are hundreds of different "strains" of weed all with different effects. Some make you happy some make you paranoid, some knock you out, etc. Its kinda like alcohol or tobacco. There are hundreds of different types of liquors, wines, beers, as well as different types of tobacco, menthol non menthol filtered non filtered. I always like to say to be able to give an educated opinion you first gotta gather a certain amount of information.
There are hundreds of different "strains" of weed all with different effects. Some make you happy some make you paranoid, some knock you out, etc. Its kinda like alcohol or tobacco. There are hundreds of different types of liquors, wines, beers, as well as different types of tobacco, menthol non menthol filtered non filtered. I always like to say to be able to give an educated opinion you first gotta gather a certain amount of information.
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I do eat a piece of chocolate or some other sweets daily, yet I'm not fat or anything.
I agree on the teach part tho.
Most likely they were retarded before the decreased IQ or the slight decrease pushed them into retardation, either way marijuana does not turn geniuses into retards. Medical marijuana is not really being discussed here, but I do agree that it should be legalized for people who need it. Marijuana still has no fatal side effects to bar it from being legalized, so it should not matter if the user has cancer or not.
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I havent tried cocaine either, yet I know it's bad. I did try smoking cigs and I drank alcohol tho.
I did check studies for both sides and talked with doctors and people who tried it.
So if you say that I have to try smtg to have an opinion, then I guess only parents can have a legit opinion on raising a child right, f.e ?
Alcohol once a day whether its red wine or a beer being healthy for you has changed from healthy to unhealthy numerous times in the past decade. I know for a fact hops (I think I'm spelling it wrong but basically its the grain used to make pretty much all beers) is proven to be healthy for you. Its health benefits vary a bit but the main reason I learned this was because it improves respiration. Smoking weed is like alcohol with this. The beneficial compound in weed is called cannibinoids.
It's HOW you consume the plant material that causes health issues like Lung and heart disease. If your burning something you created carbon monoxide. This is bad for you and causes sickness. Smoking joints, blunts, bowl, or any other UNFILTERED means will cause this. But smoking using bong's, bubblers, or any other FILTERED way will remove the carbon monoxide. A new thing now is the gpens which is pretty cool. You put it in a little slot which then heats up without using fire and the plant extract basically evaporates which then you inhale.
Realistically speaking EVERYTHING on this planet can kill you in large amounts INCLUDING water!!! The very thing we rely on to survive can also kill us if consumed in large quantities in certain scenarios. This is also a fact BTW. It would take a single person 15000, that's 15 THOUSAND joints all rolled to 1g smoked in a 20 minute period of time to START getting toxic levels of delta 9 tetrahydrocannabinol better known as THC. I DARE anybody to try that!!! If you do the math that's roughly 33.5 pounds of weed in 1 sitting in 20 minutes.
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It's HOW you consume the plant material that causes health issues like Lung and heart disease. If your burning something you created carbon monoxide. This is bad for you and causes sickness. Smoking joints, blunts, bowl, or any other UNFILTERED means will cause this. But smoking using bong's, bubblers, or any other FILTERED way will remove the carbon monoxide. A new thing now is the gpens which is pretty cool. You put it in a little slot which then heats up without using fire and the plant extract basically evaporates which then you inhale.
Realistically speaking EVERYTHING on this planet can kill you in large amounts INCLUDING water!!! The very thing we rely on to survive can also kill us if consumed in large quantities in certain scenarios. This is also a fact BTW. It would take a single person 15000, that's 15 THOUSAND joints all rolled to 1g smoked in a 20 minute period of time to START getting toxic levels of delta 9 tetrahydrocannabinol better known as THC. I DARE anybody to try that!!! If you do the math that's roughly 33.5 pounds of weed in 1 sitting in 20 minutes.
I am personally against it. You see how people will kill over it now. If it was to fall behind store walls, crime rates would rise, as well as death rates.
It is very easy to get addicted as well, so that just adds to the cause.
It will never happen because then the chain stops. The drug dealers lose money and can't afford to live. Drugs are the answer from the Government to those who can't get a job. The gvernment needs the Drug Dealers to keep getting this money, that's why they keep introducing more drugs.
It is very easy to get addicted as well, so that just adds to the cause.
It will never happen because then the chain stops. The drug dealers lose money and can't afford to live. Drugs are the answer from the Government to those who can't get a job. The gvernment needs the Drug Dealers to keep getting this money, that's why they keep introducing more drugs.
I get where your going with that. It's a valid argument and kudos for that. With kids its tricky. You have parents who sorry to say shouldn't be parents and destroy their child's life along with their own. Other cases you have the exact opposite. My point I was trying to say was information whether its first hand or from researching CREDIBLE sources is key if you want to state an educated opinion. Anybody can repeat what somebody else said but if you can elaborate and add something to back up why it is or isn't brings more argument to the table.
Weed has ZERO addictive properties to it. Coffee is more addictive than weed. I will post the link to that as I find it. It surprised the sh!et out of me as well. Sugar was up there pretty high also.
And for the killing its the opposite. Think back to the prohibition days when alcohol was banned. Organized crime came into power and is still around because they used and controlled the distribution of alcohol in it's illegal state. If you legalize it and the government were to regulate it then the killings to CONTROL the weed trade would stop. Also if you go to the legal weed shops in Colorado it is HEAVILY guarded and very secure. Its like walking into a jewelry store in Brooklyn. You gotta get buzzed past many doors to get to the merchandise showroom and the whole time there are cameras to spot everything going on in every corner. Plus their security systems are wired directly to local police precincts like banks.
I work for one of these major companies as their grower. It's very secure in every aspect with through and continuous background checks and such. It's nothing like illegal grows which are not nearly as structured. And with illegals if something were to happen you CANT call the cops so you gotta protect yourselves which is where killings happen.
And for the killing its the opposite. Think back to the prohibition days when alcohol was banned. Organized crime came into power and is still around because they used and controlled the distribution of alcohol in it's illegal state. If you legalize it and the government were to regulate it then the killings to CONTROL the weed trade would stop. Also if you go to the legal weed shops in Colorado it is HEAVILY guarded and very secure. Its like walking into a jewelry store in Brooklyn. You gotta get buzzed past many doors to get to the merchandise showroom and the whole time there are cameras to spot everything going on in every corner. Plus their security systems are wired directly to local police precincts like banks.
I work for one of these major companies as their grower. It's very secure in every aspect with through and continuous background checks and such. It's nothing like illegal grows which are not nearly as structured. And with illegals if something were to happen you CANT call the cops so you gotta protect yourselves which is where killings happen.
It's not just cancer. There are over a thousand known medical reasons between smoking and cannabis oils. I use it for my anxiety, glaucoma and insomnia as well as for recreational reasons. It also helps people with stomach issues, people with MS which you may want to YouTube. Its quite amazing!!! Helps with muscle aches, arthritis backpains in both forms. Believe it or not weed is classified as a depressant but it helps with depression if you consume the sativa strain. Cancer is the most common because that's where we find the most uses. It fights and beats cancer from stages 1- 4 (3 and 4 is when they are usually permanently hospitalized), helps recovering patients with pains and discomforts, helps them eat food and keep it down, alternative to chemotherapy which 1 in 12 times can kill the patient.
Must I really continue? You might be saying well why does a healthy person need to smoke then?? Smoking weed reduces risk of Alzheimers, epilepsy, stroke, and the forming of any type of cancer or tumor. I'm sure there's more but I can only remember so much. If you really want some serious information watch The Union on Netflix. I actually got my mother who was 64 at the time to change her stand point on weed. BTW I am of Korean decent and if you know old school Korean adults they are stubborn as hell in what they believe!!! She fought me growing up about it until I started doing my research and showing proof and evidence that what she was taught growing up was actually false or half truths.
Must I really continue? You might be saying well why does a healthy person need to smoke then?? Smoking weed reduces risk of Alzheimers, epilepsy, stroke, and the forming of any type of cancer or tumor. I'm sure there's more but I can only remember so much. If you really want some serious information watch The Union on Netflix. I actually got my mother who was 64 at the time to change her stand point on weed. BTW I am of Korean decent and if you know old school Korean adults they are stubborn as hell in what they believe!!! She fought me growing up about it until I started doing my research and showing proof and evidence that what she was taught growing up was actually false or half truths.
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Well to be fair, you don't HAVE to try something in order to judge it. You can observe its use by others, its effect and that's adequate enough to judge.
People are very biased especially when it comes to weed. They always state and repeat the same stuff said about it from the 40's on about it being a schedule 1 drug meaning its highly addictive and has. ZERO medical benefits. We now know that is entirely false in every way shape and form. How its a gateway drug or how degenerates only smoke. Steve Jobs invented the iPod smoking weed. And I've previously explained why weed is a gateway...