Whats your view on current Kakashi vs Itachi!

Who wins!

  • Kakashi Hatake

    Votes: 40 43.0%
  • Itachi Uchiha

    Votes: 46 49.5%
  • 50/50 chance

    Votes: 7 7.5%

  • Total voters
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BenjerminGaye

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^ It canonically does. In case of Gaara, the flame was used defensively - Sasuke states it himself - and in case of Ae, it was again used to defend. Given all the scans, the burn rate of Focused Amaterasu and Enton varies vastly.

How long did it take for Madara to summon it? Your answer lies in that.

Itachi died because he had most certainly stopped taking Medicines and was at the last stages of his illness. It matters a lot. Kin reached V2, just like any other Jin. As I said, read the panels. I will post scans tomorrow to end this part of the argument.

All assumption that itachi wouldn't know, but Konan would. The knowledge of Izanami and Izanagi is pointless, as given the fact that it requires one to completely forfeit ones light. His clothes were undamaged, when he was shown screaming with pain. I have never even heard of a fire that causes pains, yet leaves the clothes alone, when his entire right side was engulfed by flames. Even the thought seems laughable.

He will warp him whilst he stands behind Susano'o?

Given the scans no it doesn't. Even when focused ama was used on hachibi his tails weren't burnt through.
Same goes for the samurai that got hit by said "focused flames"

It was instant. That's how summoning jutsu works.

Scans? Cuz part 1 itachi pants after 3 uses and part 2 itachi can't use ms on 30%.

Not being a legitimate jin= less chakra to access= moves slower. Base bee pressured itachi yet stalemated yugito and even got hurt. So unless v2 yugito is slower than base yugito. You're point is moot.

There's no assumption if obito flat out said he kept secrets. Izanagi and izanami are known techs. Techs that itachi knows I.e. not a secret. So it can't be those.

I'm pretty sure it takes longer for itachi to pull out ms let alone susanno than it does for kakashi to use kamui but even if he does seeing how kakashi can still see him and it spawns on target. It won't matter.kamui will warp him even if he's behind his susanno.
 

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^ Will get back to this tomorrow.
 

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No day in hell kakashi can win itachi kakashi has to use is sharigan to keep up with itachi he doesn't even has chakara to last 15 minutes. Only way kakashi has a chance he has to have a tale beast
 

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No day in hell kakashi can win itachi kakashi has to use is sharigan to keep up with itachi he doesn't even has chakara to last 15 minutes. Only way kakashi has a chance he has to have a tale beast
Last 15 minutes :sweat: :what:
Kid ur dipers need to be changed.
 

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kakashi war arc wins this mid diff.
 

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Given the scans no it doesn't. Even when focused ama was used on hachibi his tails weren't burnt through.
Same goes for the samurai that got hit by said "focused flames"

It was instant. That's how summoning jutsu works.

Scans? Cuz part 1 itachi pants after 3 uses and part 2 itachi can't use ms on 30%.

Not being a legitimate jin= less chakra to access= moves slower. Base bee pressured itachi yet stalemated yugito and even got hurt. So unless v2 yugito is slower than base yugito. You're point is moot.

There's no assumption if obito flat out said he kept secrets. Izanagi and izanami are known techs. Techs that itachi knows I.e. not a secret. So it can't be those.

I'm pretty sure it takes longer for itachi to pull out ms let alone susanno than it does for kakashi to use kamui but even if he does seeing how kakashi can still see him and it spawns on target. It won't matter.kamui will warp him even if he's behind his susanno.

Pointless argument, when Hachibi could do nothing to fend it off, not even revert back. As soon as Sasuke turned off the Flames, the Transformation was negated. Just the way after Hachibi took its own TBB and had to revert back. It was badly hurt and was inching towards its mortality had Sasuke not turned off the flames to save Karin. Don't deny and dance around manga facts. I won't repeat this point again.

You are/were completely wrong about the summoning, as I said yesterday. - The Gedo Mezo was there for a few seconds. Kakashi aimed and used Kamui and still missed and got its arm instead. Don't give me a pointless and irrelevant 'but it was summoned' logic. You can clearly see the warp point on the Mezo's head and yet, he still couldn't get its head. So much for being instant. Time and time again this has been proven false for targets larger than people.

Kakashi did what? He got blitzed a couple of times and kept up with linear attacks from V2 Jins:

- The Jins ran straight into them.
- he got smacked by the tails here and thrown back. Even Orochimaru dodged V2 Naruto's attacks effortlessly:


- When these were actually surprise attacks, when Kakashi had the tails straight in his face and the V2 Jin was stationary then:


- It dodged his supposed high-speed attack and slapped him back. Before you state that these are Jins and that's a mindless Naruto, then these Jins were behaving like mindless animals as well.

In fact, Obito was not even using their Doujutus here because of the immense Chakra he was using to control their V2 forms - - So the whole 'Sharingan and Rinnegan' usage being a big deal is an irrelevant point.

This is the only thing he ever countered, when tails are not that hard to dodge at all, as I proved to you through Orochimaru - that to with a Bushin by his side, when Orochimaru did it alone:



- Orochimaru did just that as well. Nothing special.

Itachi's feats on the other hand are far commendable as both KCM Naruto and Bee - who's much faster than Naruto even in KCM form save for that one incident - couldn't land a hit on him with Samehada and his 7 swords as well. You slighting it, and giving Kakashi those Jins feats is laughable, given as he only had to take on a single Jin - the front one - and the second one he tried to take slapped him unceremoniously back:


- Let's not forget that he had KCM Naruto and Gated Gai as his back and used another Clone to support him for a Single Jins easily dodge-able attack. He never took on more than one mindless Jin, whereas Itachi took on two, Bee and KCM Naruto. You constantly slighting Itachi when Kakashi's speed feats are laughable in response is getting old - I mean, he only took on a single Mindless Jin, Gobi.


- The tails are shown to split off as well, so don't give me the logic that it was more than one, as the manga only shows Gobi -




Your last point is made-up and all speculation. Nothing to support it, as V1 and V2 forms use limited chakra to begin with. I have disproven all of your points. I can even bring out that laughably poor 'Chakra Built up' for almost a chapter back for Gedo-Mezo's head and how his Warp Point on Obito was present for several seconds and the lag gave Obito the opportunity to dodge it. Heck, the dude was walking with a warp point on him. Lol I am done. Unless you have anything new to say that doesn't involve making feats up for Kakashi, don't reply back. I am tired of running around in circles.
 

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Itachi would most definitely win. If Kakashi even looks at Itachi, which he needs to in order to utilize Kamui, he'll instantly get caught in genjutsu.
 

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Itachi would most definitely win. If Kakashi even looks at Itachi, which he needs to in order to utilize Kamui, he'll instantly get caught in genjutsu.
He deosn't have to look at him int he eye to use kamui... So yeah.
 

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If he doesn't look him in the eyes he gets amaterasu'ed down the butt.
 

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Tsukuyomi should be no problem for kakshi if he can keep his distances, because it's a short range jutsu. If he can just keep his distance he can focus on Amaterasu.
 

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What is the proof that it is a short range jutsu? Mere speculation. Itachi said it only requires eye contact. Unless manga proven otherwise it still only requires eye contact.
 

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Exactly. It requires eye contact. If he (kakashi) is far enough that he can see his whole body but not focus on his eyes, he should be good. That's why It's a short range jutsu.. But that doesn't really matter. I'm not saying that Kakashi can beat Itachi.. I'm just saying that tsukuyomi isn't really that much of a threat to Kakshi.. Compared to Susanoo and Amaterasu.
 

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it's a 50/50 battle...! whoever makes the 1st mistake dies....!
 
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