[Question] Whats your type of justice?

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Like in One Piece how the Admirals have their own justice: Absolute Justice, Lazy Justice, and Unclear Justice

Which would be yours?


I think mine would be "Moral Justice".
At the moment i'm studying Bachelor of Law/Social Science and have come across that defining crime isn't easy as there are many different "ideal types" [ perspectives] of what crime can be defined as.

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I reckon, crime should be codified like in legislation to give people certainty that you commiting the crime would ensue with a punishment. But this said, the morals of the present society should be taken into account, not just blindly following decade old legislation which doesn't even apply now. In that manner it may seem as "Organised Justice". :)

Lets face it, not everyone agrees with the Law. Whilst some countries might have something classified as legal others may not.

 

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justice of a god
I've heard of this definition. That God's law should be applied and anything against it is a crime. i.e is punishable.

Justice only brings Pain
This definition, i've sorta heard of. Like some people believe that the Criminal Justice system didnt exist then the amount of crime that exists would decrease [ my opinion its bullshit Lol ]


BUT GUYS stay on topic, this thread is in OP section :win:
 

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Justice only brings Pain
What I mean by this the same thing nagato was talkin about after his fight with naruto. Your justice is someone else's pain. Ex: he may be a theif but did you ever stop and ask yourself why and what can I do to help you so that you wont have to resort to crime, or did you pass immediate judement and attempt to ostracize him?
 

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Justice is unbias, when even those with no way to defend themselves, have a chance to.

Since this is in OP, i'll just state One Piece, to make it relevant.
 

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Like in One Piece how the Admirals have their own justice: Absolute Justice, Lazy Justice, and Unclear Justice

Which would be yours?


I think mine would be "Moral Justice".
At the moment i'm studying Bachelor of Law/Social Science and have come across that defining crime isn't easy as there are many different "ideal types" [ perspectives] of what crime can be defined as.

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I reckon, crime should be codified like in legislation to give people certainty that you commiting the crime would ensue with a punishment. But this said, the morals of the present society should be taken into account, not just blindly following decade old legislation which doesn't even apply now. In that manner it may seem as "Organised Justice". :)

Lets face it, not everyone agrees with the Law. Whilst some countries might have something classified as legal others may not.


I am not sure of all the "types" could you give me a list with a brief description.
 

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There is no true and absolute justice, since it's subjective for everyone. I think everyone can do whatever they want while they are ready for consiquences. Sosciety is a self-regulating system, it will erase any unwanted elements anyway.
 

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I am not sure of all the "types" could you give me a list with a brief description.
I'm just gonna tell you the 5 main ones :)

1. Crime is a behaviour that is prohibited by the criminal code [ legal definition]

2. Crime is that behaviour that offends the collective consciousness and provokes punishment. I;e something that is immoral would be a crime according to this definition. [Moral definition ]

3) Behaviour which is criminal in a social situtaion which causes a reaction. Living in the real world we usally have to follow the legal code of how we should behave when in public [ Social constructivist definition ]

4. Individuals, instuitations and states denying basic human rights. For example dumping toxic wastes on the ocean, causing air pollution ~people sick~. Also war crimes come under this definition as nobody is allowed to be tortured or persecuted [ Humanistic definition ]

5. Crime does not exist. Only acts exist, acts often given different meanings within various social frameworks. Acts and the meaning given to them are our data. Our challenge is to follow the destiny of acts through the universe of meanings. Particularly, what are the social conditions that encourage or prevent giving the acts the meaning of being crime?
(Christie 2004: 3) [ Social Constructive definition ]
 
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I'm just gonna tell you the 5 main ones :)

1. Crime is a behaviour that is prohibited by the criminal code [ legal definition]

2. Crime is that behaviour that offends the collective consciousness and provokes punishment. I;e something that is immoral would be a crime according to this definition. [Moral definition ]

3) Behaviour which is criminal in a social situtaion which causes a reaction. Living in the real world we usally have to follow the legal code of how we should behave when in public [ Social constructivist definition ]

4. Individuals, instuitations and states denying basic human rights. For example dumping toxic wastes on the ocean, causing air pollution ~people sick~. Also war crimes come under this definition as nobody is allowed to be tortured or persecuted [ Humanistic definition ]

5. Crime does not exist. Only acts exist, acts often given different meanings within various social frameworks. Acts and the meaning given to them are our data. Our challenge is to follow the destiny of acts through the universe of meanings. Particularly, what are the social conditions that encourage or prevent giving the acts the meaning of being crime?
(Christie 2004: 3) [ Social Constructive definition ]
Crime and justice are two different things, justice can be the judgement based on laws but that's not what a "personal justice" would be

And justice doesn't have any 1 complete and universal definition, you can get the definition (and I don't mean in the dictionary) but every individual will interpret it differently

There are legal definitions but not because they are correct but because it would be impossible to work if everyone would use their own definition

As for the ones you listed (in the first post) please attempt to define them because the manga is far from clear on them, you can sort of speculate from the characters' actions but that's not enough
 
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