What's your opinion on Momoshiki

[WalksInShadows]

Anyone who thinks current villains aren't stronger than old ones when they are going toe to toe with grown ass naruto and sasukeis a lying sack of shit. By that same logic naruto and sasuke have made no progression in strength since the last war. Let be fair and honest people. He is logically the strongest villain they have faced.

stronger than someone who had a TSB large enough to incredibly dwarf a PS? I don't think so.

 

[Lia]

Did you watch the movie?

Not as a whole.
But the major fight-scenes are/were available on YouTube. Momoshiki was really disappointing in my opinion.

 

[Itachi san88]

Another trash Otsutsuki.

On the strength, I think JJ Madara 3 eyes is more strong....

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Not as a whole.
But the major fight-scenes are/were available on YouTube. Momoshiki was really disappointing in my opinion.

I would see the movie before casting a judgement on him.

 

[Lia]

I would see the movie before casting a judgement on him.

I get what you want to say, but that's not necessary. At least for me.
I don't care about his personality and his intentions.. so there is only his 'power' and abilities left. And even these aspects didn't satisfy me.

His Ootsutsuki-origin makes him bad by default because I absolutely dislike the fact that this 'race' was only created to take out Madara and destroyed the last pieces of logic within this manga-universe.

 

[Ensifer]

Gonna wait until I actually see the movie to answer that mate.

I like you, you can stay.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Another trash Otsutsuki.

On the strength, I think JJ Madara 3 eyes is more strong....

He is stronger... Momo only had the "True" Preta Path that Kishi restricted Madara,Sasuke,Nagato (to an extend) from using... Because Preta Path does what Momo's absorbing ability did! Also he had black rods and the ability to use the absorbed jutsus...

I get what you want to say, but that's not necessary. At least for me. He also wanted to have the tailed beast powers that JJ Madara has... He could use chakra because of the pills that he was taking...
I don't care about his personality and his intentions.. so there is only his 'power' and abilities left. And even these aspects didn't satisfy me.

His Ootsutsuki-origin makes him bad by default because I absolutely dislike the fact that this 'race' was only created to take out Madara and destroyed the last pieces of logic within this manga-universe.

I agree. I was not impressed by Momo... He had more personality than Kaguya but who in the manga doesn't have more :lol....

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I get what you want to say, but that's not necessary. At least for me.
I don't care about his personality and his intentions.. so there is only his 'power' and abilities left. And even these aspects didn't satisfy me.

His Ootsutsuki-origin makes him bad by default because I absolutely dislike the fact that this 'race' was only created to take out Madara and destroyed the last pieces of logic within this manga-universe.

You know your second paragraph summaries why you dislike him. If you don't like his origins than you will not like his powers or abilities.

 

[Lia]

He is stronger... Momo only had the "True" Preta Path that Kishi restricted Madara,Sasuke,Nagato (to an extend) from using... Because Preta Path does what Momo's absorbing ability did! Also he had black rods and the ability to use the absorbed jutsus...

I agree. I was not impressed by Momo... He had more personality than Kaguya but who in the manga doesn't have more :lol....

Mate, where is the button to give you a cookie? I completely agree.
The story should've ended with madara as a final villain with full Rinnegan usage, for example the preta path (like Momoshikis ability) you mentioned.
There was no need for Kaguya, Hamura, Toneri and all the other lame Aliens.

If I think about it, the whole villain-story from this movie was just a complete rip-off of the Juubi-arc. The tree, mokuton dragons, Rinnegan and a shitty battle-ending.

And about the personality. Yes.
Even a rock has more personality than Kaguya, so that argument is invalid for those who want defend this guy.

@Shaz
Yep.

 

[darthvader5666]

Anyone who thinks current villains aren't stronger than old ones when they are going toe to toe with grown ass naruto and sasukeis a lying sack of shit. By that same logic naruto and sasuke have made no progression in strength since the last war. Let be fair and honest people. He is logically the strongest villain they have faced.

Nope Madara was. There's a reason Kishi took out Madara without giving him a fight. Because he would have rekt team 7. So he took him out and replaced him with a way stronger but dumber villain.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Mate, where is the button to give you a cookie? I completely agree.
The story should've ended with madara as a final villain with full Rinnegan usage, for example the preta path (like Momoshikis ability) you mentioned.
There was no need for Kaguya, Hamura, Toneri and all the other lame Aliens.

If I think about it, the whole villain-story from this movie was just a complete rip-off of the Juubi-arc. The tree, mokuton dragons, Rinnegan and a shitty battle-ending.

And about the personality. Yes.
Even a rock has more personality than Kaguya, so that argument is invalid for those who want defend this guy.

@Shaz
Yep.

Once again I agree! You see Kishi let Momo use the "True" Preta Path and Black Rods from the Rinnegan's true strength. Rinnegan is too OP. Imagine JJ Madara with full Rinnegan potential absorbing all jutsus and rendering them useless, his full power CT (not the casual that he made in the manga), the Black Rods, Ashura Path with the Juubi's power, Shinra Tensei, Human Path, Limbo with ninjutsu... The only thing that would have stopped this guy would have been the seals but it would have been a hell of battle to even touch him unrestricted.

After Madara all the Villains were meh. (Kaguya by far) Momo's goal were the Bijuu... And even if he had the Rinnegan he didn't use it at full. Like what you said it was like a copy of the War Arc. His Mokuton Dragons were the smallest and the weakest I have seen. Hashi's Wood Dragon could warp around full Kurama! Momo was taking pills to even use chakra... And even if he could absorb Ninjutsu couldn't they use attacks like CT or cut his Rinnegan "hand" or with speed launching an attack that Momo was not fast enough to absorb... I mean come on... Also Sasuke's Rinnegan is just an eye for most of the movie. No Rinnegan techs (expect two only, the Dimension Travel and Ameno)...

The thing is that we didn't see anything new. The new Villains didn't add anything to the story. Even if they didn't exist it would have been the same. Momo like all Otsutsuki's suffers from personality problem... Kinshiki is just like a giant Doll. And Kishi once again with the Movie added more Questions like he always does after the introduction of the Otsutsuki in the Manga! Like how can Momo have the Rinnegan? Didn't the Sage said that Madara awakened it with his chakra? Another retcon perhaps...

It's just seems to me that with Otsutsuki's Kishi trys to hold the Naruto manga alive but he fails...

 

[Lia]

@Dondaime Hokage Naruto

Yep, you said it very well.
The whole manga is inconsistent as f*ck now. The Ootsutsuki caused much more trouble than they gave answers.
I guess they are some kind of "backup-plan" for Kishimoto, if he runs out of money in the future.

 

[KesOnFire]

Yea I thought he was a girl also/He proved to be nothing. Also cut his arm and hes garbage lol

Boruto 1Kunai ftw!

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

@Dondaime Hokage Naruto

Yep, you said it very well.
The whole manga is inconsistent as f*ck now. The Ootsutsuki caused much more trouble than they gave answers.
I guess they are some kind of "backup-plan" for Kishimoto, if he runs out of money in the future.

And I think we will see more ridiculous things with the Otsutsukis in the future... Imagine Otsutsukis having the Rinnegan out of nothing, an invasion to Earth and I don't know what anymore... What I know is that we missed the Ultimate battle because of them and the chance to see the Rinnegan's full potential.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Yea I thought he was a girl also/He proved to be nothing. Also cut his arm and hes garbage lol

Boruto 1Kunai ftw!

This what I said before. Couldn't Sasuke or Naruto juts cut his hand?

 

[Lia]

And I think we will see more ridiculous things with the Otsutsukis in the future... Imagine Otsutsukis having the Rinnegan out of nothing, an invasion to Earth and I don't know what anymore... What I know is that we missed the Ultimate battle because of them and the chance to see the Rinnegan's full potential.

Yeah, what a 'wonderful' way to extend the story.
Hundreds of Ootsutsuki invading earth with pink, yellow and green Rinnegan all over their body. I can see it clearly before my very eyes.

Isn't it sad what happened with this manga? I mean, where is Narutos answer to Nagatos/Pains question about true peace? That conflict made this series so awesome, at least to me. Now there is absolutely nothing left.
Naruto didn't change anything, there are still a lot children trained to be soldiers, even Narutos own son. The question about peace got totally abandoned just to milk the series even further.

This what I said before. Couldn't Sasuke or Naruto juts cut his hand?

Nah, if anybody would act logically, then the movie would've been over within the first 10 minutes lol.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Yeah, what a 'wonderful' way to extend the story.
Hundreds of Ootsutsuki invading earth with pink, yellow and green Rinnegan all over their body. I can see it clearly before my very eyes.

Isn't it sad what happened with this manga? I mean, where is Narutos answer to Nagatos/Pains question about true peace? That conflict made this series so awesome, at least to me. Now there is absolutely nothing left.
Naruto didn't change anything, there are still a lot children trained to be soldiers, even Narutos own son. The question about peace got totally abandoned just to milk the series even further.

Nah, if anybody would act logically, then the movie would've been over within the first 10 minutes lol.

That's how I feel! Naruto didn't answer Nagato's question. Kishi made Madara's IT look bad in the end since again Naruto couldn't answer Madara's plan. The ending felt like a Utopia to me since peace can not be attained for long and it was not realist at least to me. Kishi stuck with pairings which was not the purpose of the manga and he didn't answer things like what you said or limited the Villains to the point of being ridiculous. Kishi also just showed us a small part of the NV planet... I mean doesn't more mysteries exist? It has to be all about Otsutsuki now? So many questions and Otsutsukis create a whole lot more...

Also what I don't like in the base and I am proved right time by time is that people hear a Villain is an Otsutsuki and they think he is the most powerful or they are hyped only to be disappointed in the end... Well all movie Villains are bad... And you are right about what you said in the end.

 

[Lia]

Too bad that I can't rep you again right now xD

It's a pleasure to meet someone who thinks very similar like me.
Yep, Kishi pulled the Zetsu-card out of his sleeve to have a reason why Madara was a bad guy. Without it, an infinite dreamworld looks pretty okay with me if we also look at the shinobi world full of hatred.

You're sooo right.
In the end, everything became about power and pairings but that's just.. crap~
At least Sasuke got a batman-like way to achieve peace but got smashed by Naruto with his "let us all be friends" mindset. But there are still villains roaming like Shin, bandits (otherwise there wouldn't be new shinobi) or these alien fodders like Toneri or Momo/Kin.
Man... I wish Kishi would've ended everything after the pain-arc. v_v

Talking about "fodders".
I agree again. Only because Hagoromo and Kaguya were strong, people instantly assume that any Ootsutsuki has to be god-Level, which is clearly not the case. Toneri split the moon in half, but lost after one punch. I honestly think that Madara would've been a tougher opponent with two Rinnegan. Not even talking about Momo or Kin again.
Movie villains were bad since day one and will ever be

 

[Reboryushon]

He got rekt. That is my opinion..

 

[Shruikan]

Got one shotted by a 12 year old.Madara would be ROFL at this "villain"