[Discussion] What's your opinion on Carl Sagan and his teachings/theories?

[Chatte]

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Carl Edward Sagan (November 9, 1934 – December 20, 1996)​

Well, a few months ago, I was hanging around the house with some friends, like we used to do, gather around and have discussions, watch documentaries, movies, have a drink or God knows what.
There was this time when we only had some drinks and listened to music and this friend of mine put a song.
I don't know if you guys know it, it's called Moonlight by Rameses B and it contains a quote from one of Carl Sagan's teachings that basically caught-up my attention really bad.

The quote was this:

“We go about our daily lives understanding almost nothing of the world. We give little thought to the machinery that generates the sunlight that makes life possible, to the gravity that glues us to an Earth that would otherwise send us spinning off into space, or to the atoms of which we are made and on whose stability we fundamentally depend. Except for children (who don’t know enough not to ask the important questions), few of us spend much time wondering why nature is the way it is; where the cosmos came from, or whether it was always here; if time will one day flow backward and effects precede causes; or whether there are ultimate limits to what humans can know.”

The song was this:



What I liked most about this song is the feeling it gives you and the questions that Carl Sagan's quote made me wonder.
Oh, and also someone's comment on the video.

"If the Universe had a song, this would be the one".

Just until recently, I have started to investigate more about him, like reading on Wikipedia to see who he was, what he did and stuff like that because this man sounds so profound to me that I can't express it in words.
That's what the song is for, I believe.
Only the song can explain in feelings and music what is the state the quote gives me.

So, anyway, I just wanted to know, what do you think about the guy, about his teachings, do you know something interesting from him that might want to share? Anything else you might want to add? Let's discuss!

Let's have a nice discussion/debate or however you want to call it, on this matter, let's learn one from another or all from one or one from all.

P.S: I must give credits to MMTwister for this. He is the one who reminded me about Carl Sagan few days ago and made me want to start this thread.

 

[James Harrsion]

*Well isn't this ironic, I was in the shower a few hours ago asking myself the same question.
-But it was mostly about heavenly father.
-Beautiful music.
-I ask myself how did this world start.
-I am absolutely dumb founded-how did God came to be?
- Did he will himself to life
-Is there another creator?
-How did it ultimate start?
-How is this world be? How did it start where did the solar system begin?
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[~Sky~]

I remember him! He was that guy who was really obsessed with UFO's or something like that.

A great movie was based off of him. (Contact)

He broadened the minds of many people in the world. He was one of the pioneers of the whole "Aliens" business.


"Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you."


(He was also quite a catch with the ladies)

 

[Chatte]

*Well isn't this ironic, I was in the shower a few hours ago asking myself the same question.
-But it was mostly about heavenly father.
-Beautiful music.
-I ask myself how did this world start.
-I am absolutely dumb founded-how did God came to be?
- Did he will himself to life
-Is there another creator?
-How did it ultimate start?
-How is this world be? How did it start where did the solar system begin?
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Hahah, it's great to see that other people share the views.
I always happen to think about these things right before I go to sleep.
In my bed I start that song on my phone and start thinking... How this everything around us came to exist? What was the process, there is more to come? Are other things that we don't know yet?

All these silly questions.

The thing is that he made me want to know one of the biggest secrets in the world: the secret behind any type of life!

And when I read about him and watched a short video about the questions he has risen wants me to know more about the things behind the hidden curtain.

Makes me want to do something so big about my life and in the same time these theories of his makes me feel so small, something like a small atom in this big universe, lol.

I remember him! He was that guy who was really obsessed with UFO's or something like that.

A great movie was based off of him. (Contact)

He broadened the minds of many people in the world. He was one of the pioneers of the whole "Aliens" business.


"Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you."


(He was also quite a catch with the ladies)

Yeah, I've read about Contact, dunno for sure if I saw it though.
Well, basically not UFO's only, everything that means life, no matter the form.

About the ladies, dunno what to say. xd

 

[James Harrsion]

Hahah, it's great to see that other people share the views.
I always happen to think about these things right before I go to sleep.
In my bed I start that song on my phone and start thinking... How this everything around us came to exist? What was the process, there is more to come? Are other things that we don't know yet?

All these silly questions.

The thing is that he made me want to know one of the biggest secrets in the world: the secret behind any type of life!

And when I read about him and watched a short video about the questions he has risen wants me to know more about the things behind the hidden curtain.

Makes me want to do something so big about my life and in the same time these theories of his makes me feel so small, something like a small atom in this big universe, lol.



Yeah, I've read about Contact, dunno for sure if I saw it though.
Well, basically not UFO's only, everything that means life, no matter the form.

About the ladies, dunno what to say. xd

I am actually scared of the world outside us. The planets compared to earth are tremendous - the earth compared to the rest of the solar system is but a mere atom to a wholly Sun. And the sun is but a mere ant compared to the mighty Ocean. What I'm saying is that there is always something bigger and the fact that we don't know of the world around us and are limited visual is scary we have no defense if a star is to go astray or launch a giant meteorite at us bigger then the sun itself ya know? I'm amazed at life don't get me wrong but it always amazes me how we're able to stand up to the sun.

 

[Chatte]

I am actually scared of the world outside us. The planets compared to earth are tremendous - the earth compared to the rest of the solar system is but a mere atom to a wholly Sun. And the sun is but a mere ant compared to the mighty Ocean. What I'm saying is that there is always something bigger and the fact that we don't know of the world around us and are limited visual is scary we have no defense if a star is to go astray or launch a giant meteorite at us bigger then the sun itself ya know? I'm amazed at life don't get me wrong but it always amazes me how we're able to stand up to the sun.

You reminded me about this picture.

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To be honest I am scared and curious in the same time.
I mean, scared of the unknown but my curiosity would make me go and meet this world outside us if I'd had the chance.

Now that you reminded me about the sun, you also reminded me of a silly thing I did when I was little.

I looked at the sun with no glasses.

I was one day so amazed about it and just wanted to watch it but I couldn't get myself doing it at the beginning because we know that without sun glasses is quite impossible.

However, I managed to do it in the end because I forced myself (not such a good thing to do, heh).
It was so orange-ish red and you could simply see the heat it was emanating. I found that fascinating at that time (6-7 years old, maybe?)

But then, I was seeing everybody red and my eyes were actually small, you know, like when you keep them when the sun hits you in he face, lol.

It was funny because everybody looked so like an alien afterwards. xd But it took me like a whole day to recover properly my sight.

I was at the countryside when I did this.

 

[YowYan]

I have this song on my iPod lol. I listen to DnB a lot. And his speech is interesting. Just another free-thinker

 

[Chatte]

I have this song on my iPod lol. I listen to DnB a lot. And his speech is interesting. Just another free-thinker

This song is one of my favourites and it always calms me, gives me a state of chill...
Regarding Carl, I like him very much, I like these free thinkers because with their help we are where we are today.

 

[YowYan]

This song is one of my favourites and it always calms me, gives me a state of chill...
Regarding Carl, I like him very much, I like these free thinkers because with their help we are where we are today.

George Carlin, Ron Paul, Carl Gustav Jung, Carl Sagan, etc etc.. all good examples for mankind
I have some dope DnB tracks if you want?

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[Chatte]

George Carlin, Ron Paul, Carl Gustav Jung, Carl Sagan, etc etc.. all good examples for mankind
I have some dope DnB tracks if you want?

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Thanks, will check them out.
True, Carlin is, as well one of my favourites. xd

 

[ImmaculateShadow]

I personally loved his quote about how the conscious mind of Humanity is a way for the universe to "know it's self".

To riff off of Terence McKenna - who was visited by Carl Sagan before McKenna died in 2001 - I find it helpful to look at the Universe it's self as a living organism, or engine, that creates complexity & novelty.

To riff now off of Steven Hawking, it's really easy to understand the universe as one out of a multiverse arising and evaporating like bubbly foam produced by the sea crashing against the shore.

Putting these two together creates my own philosophy - consciousness is what the universe is producing & we are the result along with all the other beings, gods & goddesses out there with us in this great expanse.

 

[Chatte]

I personally loved his quote about how the conscious mind of Humanity is a way for the universe to "know it's self".

To riff off of Terence McKenna - who was visited by Carl Sagan before McKenna died in 2001 - I find it helpful to look at the Universe it's self as a living organism, or engine, that creates complexity & novelty.

To riff now off of Steven Hawking, it's really easy to understand the universe as one out of a multiverse arising and evaporating like bubbly foam produced by the sea crashing against the shore.

Putting these two together creates my own philosophy - consciousness is what the universe is producing & we are the result along with all the other beings, gods & goddesses out there with us in this great expanse.

Wow, I have to look that up. As I said, I barely started to investigate more about him.
Thanks for sharing this.
And wow, those words there, so nicely said. I would love to see that process. I don't know, I have always been fascinated by the processes, especially when it involves the cosmos/stars.
I really love like the star collision or galaxy collisions pictures.
It's wow tot me, lol. xd

And that sig of yours, never got to tell you, but I am so fascinated with it!

 

[ImmaculateShadow]

Wow, I have to look that up. As I said, I barely started to investigate more about him.
Thanks for sharing this.
And wow, those words there, so nicely said. I would love to see that process. I don't know, I have always been fascinated by the processes, especially when it involves the cosmos/stars.
I really love like the star collision or galaxy collisions pictures.
It's wow tot me, lol. xd

And that sig of yours, never got to tell you, but I am so fascinated with it!

Well thank you for the complement - I'll have to think of a why to make a visual of that process.

Remember, myth is metaphor & all our understanding rests on metaphor. What the real question to me is - how great are my metaphors at explaining the world around me given both reason & intuition.

Have you ever heard of Alan Watts?

 

[Chatte]

Well thank you for the complement - I'll have to think of a why to make a visual of that process.

Remember, myth is metaphor & all our understanding rests on metaphor. What the real question to me is - how great are my metaphors at explaining the world around me given both reason & intuition.

Have you ever heard of Alan Watts?

To be honest, I haven't.
I used to be soooo curious about the world around me, but after I got employed, had school going on, later Uni, I kinda dunno, lost interest and energy, I guess.
And now, this whole thirst of knowing the world around me came back again, only that I don't find the energy, dunno how to explain it.
I am having some quarter life crisis? Lol. xd

 

[ImmaculateShadow]

To be honest, I haven't.
I used to be soooo curious about the world around me, but after I got employed, had school going on, later Uni, I kinda dunno, lost interest and energy, I guess.
And now, this whole thirst of knowing the world around me came back again, only that I don't find the energy, dunno how to explain it.
I am having some quarter life crisis? Lol. xd

After my own heart - my own "mid life crisis" happened some where between 24 & 25.

Dude, if I didn't have my curiosity for life and the universe around me ... I wouldn't have much of any thing in the way of motivation, in the way of things to think about.

Look him up - he's dead now but there are plenty of you tube videos of his past lectures.

 

[Grim]

Interesting that more and more people question things like that... is it really true that people s................ censored contest :3

ps. <3 MrSuicideSheep

 

[Chatte]

After my own heart - my own "mid life crisis" happened some where between 24 & 25.

Dude, if I didn't have my curiosity for life and the universe around me ... I wouldn't have much of any thing in the way of motivation, in the way of things to think about.

Look him up - he's dead now but there are plenty of you tube videos of his past lectures.

Strange enough, I am turning 24 in 4 months. Maybe that's the reason? :|

Guess you are right about that second statement, heh. I mean, I have this urge to read about this, this and that but I quickly abandon it, lately.

That's why I was saying that I need to get back to my old self, my old self that kept reading about stuff.

I will, thanks for the recommendation.

Interesting that more and more people question things like that... is it really true that people s................ censored contest :3

ps. <3 MrSuicideSheep

MrSuicideSheep rocks.

Well, why shouldn't we question it? Isn't questioning one of the basics of evolution?

 

[Grim]

What if we are gaining higher consciousness, just what IF

 

[Chatte]

What if we are gaining higher consciousness, just what IF

In my opinion, that would be great.
Isn't it said we don't use our brain at maximum capacity?

 

[Grim]

In my opinion, that would be great.
Isn't it said we don't use our brain at maximum capacity?

To be honest I'm addicted to one theory ''I don't want to post it here'' But It's about people gaining higher consciousness in near future and activating new level of Merkaba/cabala aka Tree of life