Do you believe your views on determinism undermine your views on existentialism? The determinist sees universal events as inevitabilities outside of our control, where as the existentialist sternly believes in free will and that were the determining factor in our lives. Is there a median between the two where you believe in both or a mix of the two?finally a GD thread i like...based on those its a mix of Determinism, Existentialism, Hedonism, Realism
Determinism because i do believe in fate, people will die when theyre suppose to for whatever reason but you have no control in that. i guess thats why i usually tend to have the "go with the flow" attitude when it comes to life, not exactly with controlling people who think they control life but hey..its just we are all fated to certain paths i feel and see, call it karma or whatever you want to justify said fate. but it is what it is imo, you just have to try and do the best you can with the cards youve been dealt for whatever reason
Existentialism because i truly believe everything is meaningful, thats really one of the main reason why im a songwriter and artist and is the fuel for that. there'd be no point at all really if i didnt feel so, especially when i first started off with people saying youll never make money and its over saturated, blah blah. but i have feelings that were meaningful to me that i felt i needed to express and seeing it resonate with others who could feel it and connect on an emotional level with me, showed me personally they weren't meaningless, someone was getting something meaningful from it, which made me try even harder. i also feel like everything happens for a reason, which might fall under the last one but i feel that gives meaning to things, moments with individuals arent forever, when they leave they leave all the memories and things they may have taught you, which can be a huge impact and all you really have left of someone important. though i disagree that the sky is the limit, you are very limited, gravity is there to remind you of that. you can try your best to make the life you want and go for the things you want but in reality that might just not be the case for you, youre probably fated for something else. while others need to endure said hardships to reach their fate, which might kind of be what you had in mind but it usually never is
Hedonism because you only live once, you might as well try to enjoy your time here as much as possible. no one will make your life truly pleasurable by your standard. i could never live a straight edge life or be super diet strict, for me thats not pleasurable and enjoying my life, as much time and effort it takes to right a good song or paint a painting, if i didnt get some sort of pleasure out of it there would be no point. sure i can be super selfish sometimes to attain and maintain pleasure but it is what it is and there are so many things in this world that can bring it to you, its almost like youre suppose to, though religious people feel you are suppose to fight temptations, which they are entitled to believe but i find it dumb, you should embrace them imo. even though happiness is very fleeting, even to have it just for a little bit is worth jumping out from under water to feel the sun, even if just for a little. otherwise i wouldve been killed myself, life is way too depressing and terrible. to never ever feel something more and always be depressed is a fear i always have and pleasurable things and moments pull me away from that feeling
Realism i dont think i really need to explain, its pretty obvious and the description covers it. so many people are in fantasies, even me im in my own bubble to try and escape some of the realities of life but regardless of how i feel or what i do, its still there. there are things, concepts, philosophies and behaviors that have existed long before ive been a live and will still be there long after
Hmm, interesting. So when you say you believe we're all mentally connected by a link, do you mean that we all share the same essence that connects us to one another? Do you also believe that our links are connected to the universe in anyway?A little bit of everything but i do have a personal philosophy of my own. It's really hard to explain it but i'll just try to sum it up the best i can. So basically, in a nutshell, my philosophy is that we're all mentally connected by an unbreakable link that prevents us from going further beyond the cycle. If that makes any sense. That's it. Again, it's really hard, if not 'impossible', for me to explain so i won't bother going into details. You would have to be in my shoes to truly understand where i'm coming from.
Uninfluenced? I'm making you re-read and edit your posts against and again like the bitc* you are as if it's the final essay to hand in. "Straddling"I hope you don't spout your bulls*it in the rare times where you're allowed to make verbal conversation with us normal humans. You probably got bullied in secondary school by people like me so now you're jumping around here on Narutobase.
You're an American nerd with a 30 point BMI![]()
The "absurd" in absurdism is reference to finding the pursuit of and or belief in inherent meaning to existence ridiculous, or "absurd". Judging by your comment, you're an absurdist. Congratulations
Sounds like textbook nihilism to me. You definitely have a positive outlook on life though, which isn't uncommon among nihilist.
There doesn't seem to be a word for my philosophy on your list, maybe you can help me out.I think of us as flesh robots that have a core goal/s and that is purely survival,reproduction and ensuring our offspring gets the best chance at survival. On our journey to this goal, we are peppered with some emotions and feelings which may make us think there is more to life than just surviving (love,happiness, achievement etc) which isn't the case in my opinion because love,happiness and achievement are a byproduct and a reward for following your instincts and accomplishing a task to get to the goal of survival and reproduction (e.g getting a GF). I don't really think I have free will because I know, all my goals that I "chose with my free will" are all connected someway in supporting the core goal mentioned above. We're essentially very complex flesh robots that have been programmed for surival and reproduction. Other than that I don't know if there is more meaning to life, there doesn't seem to be but I try to live my life enjoying it much as possible even though I know what is really going on.
It all sounds like propaganda to me...seriously.
You have poor judgement, cause obviously you're just jumping to conclusions.You're incredibly manipulative.Taking pieces of what someone says and squaring it to make it seem like something it's not.
The person that is absurd and controlling, is you.Obviously...you want to displace and square everyone's views, and convince them that something is wrong with their way of thinking. You have an agenda.You're a controller.
Hmm, interesting. So when you say you believe we're all mentally connected by a link, do you mean that we all share the same essence that connects us to one another? Do you also believe that our links are connected to the universe in anyway?
Also, what do you define as the cycle? (Life cycle, cycle of existence, etc.?)
Something like that yeah. I haven't given it much thought on wether we are somewhat connected to the universe itself or not. It could be possible i guess. I'll need to think about it.
Yes. The life cycle, or cycle of existence... Like the status quo of humanity. How we're all born the same, we have the same ambitions, we live our lives and die the same so on and so on. Never truly able to transcend ourselves.
Nietzsche is alright, but I personally think he's overrated. He's critiques on morality and religiosity were definitely revolutionary for his time and have had some major lasting impact on the world of religion and philosophy (arguably, humanity), but I think his works are too often misinterpreted as claiming the world holds no value, when he's only claimed that the world hold no objective value.You must be registered for see images
Ot: so you like Nietzsche?
I don't really know where I stand, but I think about it. I guess I'm skeptical about social services if that's a philosophy, but I know usually when I look at the news I usually get caught on things that involve shady things with institutions and stuff. I also dislike faschism, nazism, racism and all of that, but I think it can be a little more complex than the way people usually talk about it. I am skeptical about a lot I think. I don't know.
Looking at the pictures I think Hedonism fits me.
Do you believe your views on determinism undermine your views on existentialism? The determinist sees universal events as inevitabilities outside of our control, where as the existentialist sternly believes in free will and that were the determining factor in our lives. Is there a median between the two where you believe in both or a mix of the two?
.....Existentialism because i truly believe everything is meaningful, thats really one of the main reason why im a songwriter and artist and is the fuel for that. there'd be no point at all really if i didnt feel so, especially when i first started off with people saying youll never make money and its over saturated, blah blah. but i have feelings that were meaningful to me that i felt i needed to express and seeing it resonate with others who could feel it and connect on an emotional level with me, showed me personally they weren't meaningless, someone was getting something meaningful from it, which made me try even harder. i also feel like everything happens for a reason, which might fall under the last one but i feel that gives meaning to things, moments with individuals arent forever, when they leave they leave all the memories and things they may have taught you, which can be a huge impact and all you really have left of someone important. though i disagree that the sky is the limit, you are very limited, gravity is there to remind you of that. you can try your best to make the life you want and go for the things you want but in reality that might just not be the case for you, youre probably fated for something else. while others need to endure said hardships to reach their fate, which might kind of be what you had in mind but it usually never is
Propaganda? Interesting proposition. Lets run with this, "I am promoting philosophical propaganda through discussion threads on a Naruto forum", good, good. Now, what are my motivational factors, and end goal? And, also, do I get a backstory?
Did both of my parents die, or just one?
Break cycle of poverty, deter the common black folk stereotype, of course dine with the opposite *** on multiple occasions, find a strong willed yet vulnerable to my love woman then leave great will for my seed.
I am not sure what would you call this diplomatically
My bias definitely all up and down this thread, I'll admit that. Just look at the description of nihilism. I wasn't trying to present this thread as an objective look into philosophy, more so a light hearted discussion on people's outlook.Awww a pompous smart-aleck...and nope, I didn't say all that, you did.Nice try.
The way these philosophies are presented, implied biased leanings to me. Some views are presented as something negative,when some just seemed normal or okay, while other views, which some seemed illusive to me, were presented in such a positive way.Which seemed like you were promoting certain ones, while presenting the others in such a negative way. When, everything isn't exactly as bright as it may seem. Some of the ones presented in such a positive way, just seemed down right delusional. But, if you were plagiarizing from some other source, than i guess it's not your fault.
Break cycle of poverty, deter the common black folk stereotype, of course dine with the opposite *** on multiple occasions, find a strong willed yet vulnerable to my love woman then leave great will for my seed.
I am not sure what would you call this diplomatically

Okay.yeah nice thread, didnt read