whats wrong with Sasuke???

[KingHashirama]

Everyone wants to make either Madara or Juubi or Orochimaru the final villain. But all forget about Sasuke. The main antagonist Sasuke Uchiha. What about him? He automatically started chasing ponies now?

So why doesn't anybody think about Sasuke being the final villain? I mean it is the most logical choice out of the others. Sasuke and Naruto are the future afterall, they are the repetition of Hashirama/Madara younger son/Older Son. So would not only make sense if Sasuke was the final villain.


Now some of you will try to say "sasuke won't be a villain though, hes not evil like the others". Uh just because Sasuke isn't killing kids, or stealing dna, doesn't mean hes not evil. In the end already showed that hes going with the "Power>Love" philosophy. And on top of that Sakura (someone who really likes Sasuke) is already aware of that.


So again, is something wrong with Sasuke as the final villain or something, because I hardly hear anyone talking about him or suggesting him as the final villain, unless people here think the their fight is gonna be over the title of Hokage, a position that is decided by the people.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I hope he is the villain in the end but he isnt now, maybe he went to eat that fruit or something XD

 

[KingHashirama]

I hope he is the villain in the end but he isnt now, maybe he went to eat that fruit or something XD

Well its not like Sasuke is buddy buddy with Naruto right now, they simply have a common enemy.

 

[Naruto99Uzumaki]

he is kishis new troll victim

 

[Transcendence]

They don't represent that flawed Elder-Younger parallel to begin with. Uchiha Sasuke was never an antagonist. He has always been portrayed as an anti-hero. Notice his "actions" that have labelled him as a criminal actually benefit the Shinobi world.... Killing Deidara and Itachi; two wanted criminals of the Akatsuki, out of the way because of him. Killing Orochimaru? It's two pronged, and it was never meant to be purely from an antagonistic point of view in Sasuke's case.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Well its not like Sasuke is buddy buddy with Naruto right now, they simply have a common enemy.

He meant to save him from those 4 TBBs with a hawk. Remember?

 

[fayeon]

Sasuke moral is darker but he aint a villain .

And yes kishimoto wanted sasuke to want the hokage title from the start ,so it obvious what are they going to fight about .



Both wants to protect konoha both want to take the lead

But their ways are different
They will fight for their morals .

 

[adeshina365]

Naruto vs. Sasuke is destined to be the final battle.

Naruto vs. Sasuke
Rikudo vs. ???
Hero vs. Anti-hero

 

[Ver55e]

Sasuke the bad :x3: yeah that should never happen because I like him calm and not into this rule the shnobi buzz

 

[Rayder]

They don't represent that flawed Elder-Younger parallel to begin with. Uchiha Sasuke was never an antagonist. He has always been portrayed as an anti-hero. Notice his "actions" that have labelled him as a criminal actually benefit the Shinobi world.... Killing Deidara and Itachi; two wanted criminals of the Akatsuki, out of the way because of him. Killing Orochimaru? It's two pronged, and it was never meant to be purely from an antagonistic point of view in Sasuke's case.

Joining Akatsuki, attacking Killer B and several other kage and also killing Danzo, a hokage, aren't really actions that are beneficial to the ninja world. U_U

 

[AlphaScythian]

Joining Akatsuki, attacking Killer B and several other kage and also killing Danzo, a hokage, aren't really actions that are beneficial to the ninja world. U_U

Akatsuki are bad, danzo is bad, Bee sux balls as rapper aka bad. Yes it is.

 

[KingHashirama]

They don't represent that flawed Elder-Younger parallel to begin with. Uchiha Sasuke was never an antagonist. He has always been portrayed as an anti-hero. Notice his "actions" that have labelled him as a criminal actually benefit the Shinobi world.... Killing Deidara and Itachi; two wanted criminals of the Akatsuki, out of the way because of him. Killing Orochimaru? It's two pronged, and it was never meant to be purely from an antagonistic point of view in Sasuke's case.

Antagonist: Someone who stands in the way of the main character

Main characters' goal = Become Hokage and live with understanding between people and spread that.
Antagonist's goal = Become Hokage and burn down the current system to create a new one.

So you are outright telling to my face that Sasuke isn't going against Naruto?

False, he wasn't labeled as a criminal for killing Deidara/Itachi. He was labeled as a criminal for attacking Killer B, nothing beneficial about that. On top of that he is also partially responsible for the Resurrection of the Juubi.

Sasuke moral is darker but he aint a villain .

And yes kishimoto wanted sasuke to want the hokage title from the start ,so it obvious what are they going to fight about .



Both wants to protect konoha both want to take the lead

But their ways are different
They will fight for their morals .

In the start Sasuke had no intentions to become Hokage.. rofl

Both want to "protect Konoha". Just like Madara wanted to protect and preserve the world. In doing so he is causing this war.

So why is Madara the villain, when in the end his final mission is simply to make peace under a genjutsu, where he controls people.. I mean Sasuke wants to burn down the current system and create a new one, you think everyone agree with that, and it wouldn't cause a conflict?

He meant to save him from those 4 TBBs with a hawk. Remember?

Because Naruto is the best chance he has to take them on. The Hokages were Edos, so they wouldn't have any affect on them. Naruto was the best person to save.

 

[Transcendence]

Naruto vs. Sasuke is destined to be the final battle.

Naruto vs. Sasuke
Rikudo vs. ???
Hero vs. Anti-hero

For the "???" I'd propose the use of the moniker: "Elder Son's ideals". In the case of the battle, Naruto embodies Rikudou who befriended the Bijuu and has the same power as Rikudou (Rinnegan, Bijuu Power and Sennin Modo) whereas Sasuke, via his obscene use of his power, threatens the Bijuu in the same way embodying his power hungry and mongering ancestor embodying the use of the Eien No Mangekyou/Elder Sons Dojutsu, Perfect Susano'o and manifesting his Curse Mark once more.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Everyone wants to make either Madara or Juubi or Orochimaru the final villain. But all forget about Sasuke. The main antagonist Sasuke Uchiha. What about him? He automatically started chasing ponies now?

So why doesn't anybody think about Sasuke being the final villain? I mean it is the most logical choice out of the others. Sasuke and Naruto are the future afterall, they are the repetition of Hashirama/Madara younger son/Older Son. So would not only make sense if Sasuke was the final villain.


Now some of you will try to say "sasuke won't be a villain though, hes not evil like the others". Uh just because Sasuke isn't killing kids, or stealing dna, doesn't mean hes not evil. In the end already showed that hes going with the "Power>Love" philosophy. And on top of that Sakura (someone who really likes Sasuke) is already aware of that.


So again, is something wrong with Sasuke as the final villain or something, because I hardly hear anyone talking about him or suggesting him as the final villain, unless people here think the their fight is gonna be over the title of Hokage, a position that is decided by the people.

I had some thoughts but I didn't really focus on it because of other things that have been happening. Sasuke showed dark intents since he got to the war. Back when Sai was telling Sakura how he doesn't know Sasuke well so he can look at him objectively and doesn't trust him and Sakura said she did but had a twisted sad face and Sai said he knows her words were empty. Then when Sasuke didn't want to stop the Amaterasu from burning the Juubi when Naruto asked him to so he can pull out the other Bijuus. Then when he said he'll delete the past and shows a rip of Naruto from Sakura and Kakashi.

 

[Pwner10144]

Antagonist: Someone who stands in the way of the main character

Main characters' goal = Become Hokage and live with understanding between people and spread that.
Antagonist's goal = Become Hokage and burn down the current system to create a new one.

So you are outright telling to my face that Sasuke isn't going against Naruto?

False, he wasn't labeled as a criminal for killing Deidara/Itachi. He was labeled as a criminal for attacking Killer B, nothing beneficial about that. On top of that he is also partially responsible for the Resurrection of the Juubi.

In the start Sasuke had no intentions to become Hokage.. rofl

Both want to "protect Konoha". Just like Madara wanted to protect and preserve the world. In doing so he is causing this war.

So why is Madara the villain, when in the end his final mission is simply to make peace under a genjutsu, where he controls people.. I mean Sasuke wants to burn down the current system and create a new one, you think everyone agree with that, and it wouldn't cause a conflict?



Because Naruto is the best chance he has to take them on. The Hokages were Edos, so they wouldn't have any affect on them. Naruto was the best person to save.

He got you there transcendence, almost ironic.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Sasuke won't be FV

He and naruto would simply have a fight over the bijuu to try to save them or kill them.

 

[Flawž]

Agreed. This is pretty obvious. Sasuke is only helping them out to get rid of the bigger threat. Once Madara is defeated, Sasuke will likely betray them somehow.

Oro will fight the SA.

Sasuke will fight naruto.

 

[KingHashirama]

Agreed. This is pretty obvious. Sasuke is only helping them out to get rid of the bigger threat. Once Madara is defeated, Sasuke will likely betray them somehow.

Oro will fight the SA.

Sasuke will fight naruto.

Nah I think the alliance itself might split into 2. Cause as I recall there were some people who agreed with Sasuke in burning down the juubi.

 

[Transcendence]

Antagonist: Someone who stands in the way of the main character

Main characters' goal = Become Hokage and live with understanding between people and spread that.
Antagonist's goal = Become Hokage and burn down the current system to create a new one.

So you are outright telling to my face that Sasuke isn't going against Naruto?

False, he wasn't labeled as a criminal for killing Deidara/Itachi. He was labeled as a criminal for attacking Killer B, nothing beneficial about that. On top of that he is also partially responsible for the Resurrection of the Juubi.



In the start Sasuke had no intentions to become Hokage.. rofl

Both want to "protect Konoha". Just like Madara wanted to protect and preserve the world. In doing so he is causing this war.

So why is Madara the villain, when in the end his final mission is simply to make peace under a genjutsu, where he controls people.. I mean Sasuke wants to burn down the current system and create a new one, you think everyone agree with that, and it wouldn't cause a conflict?



Because Naruto is the best chance he has to take them on. The Hokages were Edos, so they wouldn't have any affect on them. Naruto was the best person to save.

I won't denounce your reasoning at all. That much is true. But Sasuke isn't an antagonist in the sense that you're thinking. I won't ascertain the thought that Sasuke is an actual villain. An Anti-Hero has direct relations to the the main character and most of the time does the opposite of the protagonist, much like your description of Sasuke. If Sasuke were a villain, he would not be helping the SA, aiding Naruto or would not have helped revive the Hokage to aid in the war. A villain Sasuke would have let the war proceed or joined the more advantageous side; I.E The one with the God of the world on their side....Sasuke not being a villain is rooted in his reasoning. He doesn't want to hurt anybody in the most pure sense. He wants to change the system that he believes is what caused his brothers suffering, his clans suffering, calamities to the world (including the prior wars) and the reason that his "best friend" was subjected to utterly disgusting torment as a child; burning or killing the Bijuu would eliminate the Jinchuriki system that caused the aforementioned things I listed. None of it has to do with him being evil, but rather misguided intentions that stem from his life that he has lived to this point.​