What's with Madara's chakra?

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Kurama compared Sasuke's chakra and hatred to be similar to Madara's. But based on what I've read and seen in the anime and manga, it seems like Madara's chakra is a lot more foul than MS and EMS Sasuke's. How come? Aren't they both transmigrants of Indra?
 

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Madaras entire chakra isn't composed of Indra i think its a mix of his and indra's which would be the only explanation why he would have a more vile chakra than sasuke
 

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Madaras entire chakra isn't composed of Indra i think its a mix of his and indra's which would be the only explanation why he would have a more vile chakra than sasuke
So Madara's chakra is basically monstrous compared to Sasuke's
 

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Because Madara actually reached his peak. Chakra grows more potent with maturity and age and Madara was at least 40 when he and Hashirama fought. Sasuke is only 17 so there'd be a big difference in their chakra.
 

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Madaras entire chakra isn't composed of Indra i think its a mix of his and indra's which would be the only explanation why he would have a more vile chakra than sasuke

I don't see how Madara's chakra is a mix of his and Indra's when he "is" Indra
 

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Love how that guy just made up chakra grows more potent with age as if he read it in the manga. :lmao:
 

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Just like how Naruto and Hashirama are the only one's capable of handling so much natural energy, it proves they both have something in common, Ashura's chakra. Sasuke and Madara are Indra's transmigrants hence they have Indra's chakra which makes both their chakras very similar. So it isn't weird if Kurama could sense a similarity in both chakras
 

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Sasuke is not Madara

Nuff said
 

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I don't see how Madara's chakra is a mix of his and Indra's when he "is" Indra

Because he had different parents with different chakra than indras, duh. So madaras is a mix of indras, his moms, and dads.
 

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I hypothesize that kuruma senses indras chakra since hes been around since indra and ashura's time he would recognize it. his own chakra doesn't matter hes sensing indra. one thing I don't get is why kuruma never realized that naruto was ashura's reincarnate. interesting I never thought about that. maybe he did but never said anything, but youd think kuruma woulda said something after him and naruto became friends
 

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Because sasuke was full of hatred and had darkness in him Madara had hate but it wasn't like sasukes because Madara while fallen to the curse wasn't full of darkness

Note when sasuke was at the kage summit his susanoo changed based on his emotions And Karin as sensor was scared by the darkness she could feel from sasuke
 

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Just like how Naruto and Hashirama are the only one's capable of handling so much natural energy, it proves they both have something in common, Ashura's chakra. Sasuke and Madara are Indra's transmigrants hence they have Indra's chakra which makes both their chakras very similar. So it isn't weird if Kurama could sense a similarity in both chakras

There are other Sages with skill up to Narutos I presume. Hashi is a special case. I dont think Ashura Chakra has anything to do with Sage Mode.
 

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Similar but not the same. I'd say it was their connection through Indra that sparked Kyuubis interest.
 

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There are other Sages with skill up to Narutos I presume. Hashi is a special case. I dont think Ashura Chakra has anything to do with Sage Mode.

Well I do...What were the requirements for sage mode again? High reserves and high chakra control. Hashirama had both. Naruto had high reserves but lacked chakra control. The fact that Jiraiya who was way better than Naruto in chakra control still needed ma and pa to enter sennin mode shows that Naruto's case is indeed special. Even Kabuto needed Uzumaki genes and Juugo's genes and still couldn't perfect it, even though he had good chakra control to use advanced medical ninjutsu. Ashura's chakra definitely helps. Seeing as Ashura's main power revolves around Senjutsu/RSM, it isn't a stretch to say his transmigrant would be more adept to using senjutsu considering the good amount who have tried and failed.
 

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Love how that guy just made up chakra grows more potent with age as if he read it in the manga. :lmao:

The Manga shows it. The same person as an adult would have a stronger chakra than when he/she was a child. Only a retard would think otherwise.
 

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Love how that guy just made up chakra grows more potent with age as if he read it in the manga. :lmao:

It does though. Potency is based off of mastery. It's like the saying with age, comes wisdom. In this case, aging = wisdom = better knowledge on chakra control = perfected chakra control = potency increased.
 

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Because sasuke was full of hatred and had darkness in him Madara had hate but it wasn't like sasukes because Madara while fallen to the curse wasn't full of darkness

Note when sasuke was at the kage summit his susanoo changed based on his emotions And Karin as sensor was scared by the darkness she could feel from sasuke

But the manga showed Madara's chakra is more vile, dangerous, stronger, etc.
 

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It does though. Potency is based off of mastery. It's like the saying with age, comes wisdom. In this case, aging = wisdom = better knowledge on chakra control = perfected chakra control = potency increased.

Agreed but only when constantly used and refined, madara wouldn't be as strong if he hadn't been born and raised during war time
 

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Agreed but only when constantly used and refined, madara wouldn't be as strong if he hadn't been born and raised during war time

Regardless of what time he was raised in, Black Zetsu made sure all the transmigrants reach their peak so nothing would have changed.
 
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