What's so special about unfused Momoshiki ?
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nothing really.. He doesn't appear to be a fighter but if he's gotten that far it's because whom ever he came in contact with before he came to earth just through their power away to defeat him or they feared him to the point where they die for groveling.. He seems like royalty with henchmen doing his dirty work....
Imagine him like Vegeta first comin to earth!.. He was feared for his power but never really fought because of his stature (Prince) an everyone feared him for his brutality but he never really had to fight.. Once having to fight it showed that he wasn't superior at all just strong in energy/chakra based attacking..
Imagine him like Vegeta first comin to earth!.. He was feared for his power but never really fought because of his stature (Prince) an everyone feared him for his brutality but he never really had to fight.. Once having to fight it showed that he wasn't superior at all just strong in energy/chakra based attacking..
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That's difficult to determine. Everyone here likes to think that Naruto and Sasuke in terms of speed and close-combat greatly surpass everyone else alive simply because they are "Six Paths characters", but in the movie the difference between everyone in this regard is negligible. Kinshiki went from a seemingly lightning-paced fight against Sasuke in the beginning to barely beating Choujuurou (6th Mizukage) himself. With what we've been shown, his prowess in the category is on par with Naruto and Sasuke separately, but it's impossible to tell how that compares to everyone else with such discrepancy.
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Well Vegeta was no joke though. He would've beaten Goku if he didn't have all the help he did.
I'm not gonna into that though.
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I wanna say 7 gates Gai can pressure him a little bit since Madara had a little trouble reacting to him but Madara was holding back so I might be overestimating Gai.
Exactly! But when faced with a real fight he folded! His scenario was no different then Momo's though in the overall scheme of things..
Stronger or more powerful then your opponent doesn't always mean a W.. Tactics an skill sometimes trumps raw power.. Pun intended Haha!
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Fused momo only loses because he has no way to seal madara, he's above one eye shinjuless JJ madara though. Sasuke wasn't trying his hardest? He couldn't even stand on his own legs after the fight. :lol
He was nerfed of rinne techs on the other hand.
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Madara without the shinjuu can beat him.
Momoshiki can't absorb mokuton or CT and Madara is far more durable by feats.
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The way the manga portrayed him? He desperately needed his other eye to fight off inferior versions of naruto and sasuke. I honestly want to make a debate thread on this, would you be game or nah?
There wasn't anything special about him. He wasn't supposed to be a villain that was more powerful than anything else like in DBZ. His character was particularly crafted and designed to be more of a symbol in the context of Boruto's personal story arc.
We were introduced to Boruto as a character that was looking for any shortcut he could; a character who preferred loopholes and instant gratification as opposed to actually working toward a goal and achieving it.
Momoshiki and the other one were introduced to us as villains that their whole gimmick was they stole power from an outside source and returned it several times over. They had nearly no special abilities of their own outside of that. They were just powerful enough to cause some problems for an out of touch Naruto and just powerful enough to have a pretty fair fight against a one armed Sasuke individually, but not so powerful that Naruto and Sasuke were forced to become the main characters and overshadow Boruto.
In context, they were meant to be shown as inspiration for Boruto. They came, they temporarily took Naruto out of the equation, and they left. Boruto had to make up his mind and develop as a character to rescue his father with his own power. Then after Boruto had completed his own personal arc, Naruto and Sasuke came together and struck the final nail in the coffin when they demonstrated to Boruto that hardwork and using your own personal power is greater than cheap tricks.
We were introduced to Boruto as a character that was looking for any shortcut he could; a character who preferred loopholes and instant gratification as opposed to actually working toward a goal and achieving it.
Momoshiki and the other one were introduced to us as villains that their whole gimmick was they stole power from an outside source and returned it several times over. They had nearly no special abilities of their own outside of that. They were just powerful enough to cause some problems for an out of touch Naruto and just powerful enough to have a pretty fair fight against a one armed Sasuke individually, but not so powerful that Naruto and Sasuke were forced to become the main characters and overshadow Boruto.
In context, they were meant to be shown as inspiration for Boruto. They came, they temporarily took Naruto out of the equation, and they left. Boruto had to make up his mind and develop as a character to rescue his father with his own power. Then after Boruto had completed his own personal arc, Naruto and Sasuke came together and struck the final nail in the coffin when they demonstrated to Boruto that hardwork and using your own personal power is greater than cheap tricks.
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I'm not really a debater but we can get others opinion on it in the vs section
I don't think you can use that logic since teen Naruto and Sasuke showed much more impressive feats against Madara than they did as adults against fused Momoshiki.
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Same, that's if you think they don't have rikudou chakra anymore. That's probably a red flag, for us to agree to disagree.
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They still have rikudo chakra.
Momoshiki's fighting style restricted them to just taijutsu for most of the fight. Madara wouldn't be restricted to just taijutsu though since he has other means of dealing damage.
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They still have rikudou chakra.
Momoshiki only caused trouble for them because his fighting style revolves mostly around absorbing chakra. So they were restricted to taijutsu for most of the fight. Madara has other means of dealing damage besides taijutsu and ninjutsu that can be absorbed.