What's so great about America?

joodaa

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jul 20, 2011
Messages
1,759
Reaction score
53
Its nice to go on holiday there, I have no idea what it is like living there.
 

Unbiased

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
3,295
Reaction score
376
The ndaa, gmo foods, fema camps, obama care, police corruption, chemtrails, the land of false flag attacks etc etc.

That explains why america is so great...

Nation of cowards? What in the....

Why are you hellbent against America anyways? Did an American steal your cookie?

Not hellbent, although the fact that you interpreted it as hellbent means you lack an understanding of what was written.
 

Ōkami

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Sep 11, 2012
Messages
21,781
Reaction score
2,396
The idiots of their country are entertaining to watch.
 

7th Biggest OP Fan

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Dec 21, 2012
Messages
1,370
Reaction score
189
Yup oh well the people who voted for the presidents/former presidents in deserve what they get.

I don't think we deserve the last 2 presidents we got tbh. The problem is people are ignorant. Do they deserve to be punished because people don't know what really is going on? Everyone is in the mindset of "All hail the Democrats", or "All hail the Republicans". They have no clue they both are bad and are destroying America. In fact, anyone mentioned on tv are more then likely bad. Why don't we ever hear about the other 200 people or the other 20 parties that try to run for president every 4 yeas. It's because the media and whoever is in charge of that don't want anyone that could possibly help America become president. They only want those that will help push the agenda they want.
If people become educated in politics and not just what person will fit their affiliation, even if that person is horrible. We would also have to change how the media handles stuff also, but even trying to think how this could be possible is a headache. Maybe we are all just doomed as a country and will fall in the end.
 

Unbiased

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
3,295
Reaction score
376
I don't think we deserve the last 2 presidents we got tbh. The problem is people are ignorant. Do they deserve to be punished because people don't know what really is going on? Everyone is in the mindset of "All hail the Democrats", or "All hail the Republicans". They have no clue they both are bad and are destroying America. In fact, anyone mentioned on tv are more then likely bad. Why don't we ever hear about the other 200 people or the other 20 parties that try to run for president every 4 yeas. It's because the media and whoever is in charge of that don't want anyone that could possibly help America become president. They only want those that will help push the agenda they want.
If people become educated in politics and not just what person will fit their affiliation, even if that person is horrible. We would also have to change how the media handles stuff also, but even trying to think how this could be possible is a headache. Maybe we are all just doomed as a country and will fall in the end.

The media controls what's published, however ignorance is no excuse. If an American doesn't research their rights and the people who they are voting for and their actions concerning their rights then they don't deserve the freedoms they have.
 

YowYan

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Dec 9, 2010
Messages
15,124
Reaction score
1,838
beef jerkey?
dumbass patriots?
deep fried twinkies?
 

Aim64C

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Dec 18, 2012
Messages
3,681
Reaction score
608
This is a topic where I'm legitimately questioning what makes America such a great place. Thus I consider it serious seeing how it involves it's laws/wars and deem it to be in proper placement.

Well, America is one of the only places in the world where you can freely travel the majority of an entire continent and experience everything from pine forests to desert wasteland. About the only other country that comes close to this is Australia.

The patriot act went unchallenged by the citizens and It violates the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Eighth and 14th Amendments.

The Patriot Act has not gone unchallenged by citizens. Though, if you want my honest opinion regarding the Patriot Act, it was a necessary and proper implementation in the years following 9/11. Like many things, however, it has out-lived its purpose. The entire concept of a Presidential Act is to be a temporary, executive solution to the problem while the more cumbersome legislative side of things can draft up a more permanent solution (if a permanent solution is deemed necessary).

The FBI/CIA, or any other government agency can illegally wiretap your phone conversations, storm inside your house without any official warrant, detain you without an access to an attorney, install personal/civil liberties by installing high-tech cameras in public/private locations, look at your credit card info, and even label you as a "terrorist" if you're against government policies they voted for.

This is not entirely correct. This is not the time or the place for an in-depth discussion of the legal proceedings under the Patriot Act - but many of these types of things only apply to non-citizen residents and visitors.

Though the water does get a little murky when you add more recent Presidential acts on top of it (that re-define "terrorist" and other such things - which can have retroactive effects on previous acts that are less than desirable).

The NDAA passed and thus Americans can be detained without due process. That means if you're suspected of terrorism they can show up and take you without due process. No trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty ect. This law directly violates 4th, 5th, 6th 7th and 8th Amendments.

Stand by on that one. It's getting some pretty motivated contention. It's interesting that the Obama administration was critical of the Patriot Act - but this thing is far, far worse.

Interestingly enough, I've not met a single person in the military who thinks it's a reasonable act. Even the ones who recognize that terrorists do operate within the U.S. and there needs to be a process outlined for dealing with the network think that the act goes way too far.

So I doubt you'll actually find anyone able to use the NDAA's provisions as currently feared... but it's not a good window to leave open.

Free speech zones are enacted thus you do not have the right to free speech anywhere and everywhere in America. So there goes the 1st amendment.

This one is new to me. Is it a local thing for you? Don't have that problem in Missouri.

Aside from all those atrocities happening, 90% of the voters, keep voting for people who have taken away your rights as citizens. Here's two examples. President Bush and President Obama have both signed unconstitutional laws in their first term, yet people still voted for them and they got second terms.

This is quite frustrating. Americans are kind of stuck in thinking that there are only two legitimate parties from which to select candidates (and "winner takes all" mentalities allowed because the majority of the vote is split between two primary candidates).

I think that's about to come to an end, though. Both Republicans and Democrats are starting to lose 'hold' on their constituents. Admittedly, the Republicans are losing that hold faster than the Democrats - so we're probably going to see a Democrat-dominated Fed for the next decade or two. ... Provided we still have a federal government by that point in time.

People actually that gun control works. Only thing I have to say about this, is that there's 6 million dead german jews who think it works and 20 million dead russians who think it works too. Keep in mind a modest portion of the country wants gun control. Not to mention they do not care about their 2nd amendment rights or the soldiers who died for it. May as well find a women who son died fighting for America and say your son died for nothing. Because with everything that's been violated it's true. You can say "Well their only banning high capacity magazines and semi automatic weapons (seeing how automatic weapons have been banned since the 1930's) but the whole point of the 2nd amendment is for the citizens to defend themselves against a corrupt government.

*shrug* I really don't let this bother me too much. I'll own my weapon an dispose of any unarmed fool who gets motivated enough to try and tell me I shouldn't have it (or whatever armed idiot he dispatches to do it). A lot of these anti-gun mentalities simply don't understand how armed this nation is (or rate of firearm violence is relatively low when factored against the estimated number of households owning firearms).

But, there again, I live in the more rural areas. I haven't met a single police officer or military officer/enlisted who would think it wise to walk around trying to collect firearms. I know far more who would tell whoever gave them such an order to stuff it (because it's suicide).

Plus, states like mine are relatively pro-firearm and we would actually find it quite a boost to our economy if the states currently housing firearm manufacturers began to instate firearm bans and additional taxes on their manufacture. Remmington, you'd be welcomed with open arms in Missouri. Well - spare for a few idiots in the city - but no one cares what they think.

The whole problem stems from an ignorant, self important, and uneducated society. Most Americans don't care about anything unless it begins to affect them. So to put things in perspective it's like this. A robber robs a strangers house. The victim is worried now that they will be robbed every night, while the majority of others do nothing because nothing happened to them.

In some ways - this isn't a particularly bad attitude to have in America. We just apply it in the wrong way. Honestly - I couldn't care less what New York does. I don't live there and don't have any plans or intentions of living there. Nor do I care what California does. If their citizens feel their state has violated their federally insured rights - then it's their responsibility to bring it to the federal court system. Only if the court rules that the state is in violation of rights, and only if the state continues to ignore the court - do I really have any business getting involved as a citizen of another state.

On the other hand - I do not think it a good idea to vote in favor of laws that address an issue I do not understand or that has an affect on the lifestyle of people I do not completely understand, either.

In Missouri, we've had several problems with laws being drafted and largely passed by representatives and citizens from urban districts that completely break the agricultural economy (we simply cannot follow the law and function). This is why, above, I say that no one really cares what the city folk think (and why a lot of their legislative efforts should be isolated to their city limits and not be bled over into the rest of the state).

To make matters even more ridiculous people keep prostituting their children in order to gain support in affairs such as terrorism, gun control, controversial topics like abortion ect. Corrupting children with things they have no understanding of is not helpful to anyone or anything. It just creates an even more deranged society where people have no morals (not that they're morals today.) People will protest over abortion, gay marriage, gun control ect but when it comes to their rights as a citizen no one does anything.

I wouldn't say that's entirely true. The internet is rife with discussions about various bills/laws (largely against them). The difference is in how the people versed in these topics tend to express themselves. We are more the logical, intellectual type of people. You'd pretty much never find me as part of a group protest, because I find their behavior to be an insult to my intelligence (even if I happen to agree with them).

Another part of the problem, too, is that I've seen plenty of people who talk in opposition to things - then don't actually follow through with a vote (for whatever reason). When it's an accomplishment to get 30% of the REGISTERED voters to show up and make a vote... it's difficult to say that the democratic portion of our republic is functioning properly.

By the American Governments admission, the vietnam war was started off a fake attack. The battle that "started the vietnam war" never happened. So what did people do after the government admitted that? Absolutely nothing. Yup millions innocent human beings died and people do nothing. The situation is very similar in the middle east too. Keep in mind this admission happened in 2004 when the internet was around.

My time machine was malfunctioning, or I would have gone back in time to expose the truth and stop the Vietnam war from happening, my father from going over there - and myself from being born.

Nah, I jest. The time machine wasn't malfunctioning. I did go back in time and try to expose the truth... but it just so happened that my voice was lost amongst the millions of people protesting the war in Tie-Dye apparel.

What makes this country so great?

It's my home.

I won't deny that there are problems with it. But I still do have pride in the fact that it is my home - my responsibility. I can sit here and bash my country all day (and I have, on occasion) - but it's still my country. It's no different than complaining about all of the neighbors... it's your neighborhood. Set the example and do what you can to help others realize the benefits of being the example.

In the end - I will survive and do what I can to be the country I love and respect.
 

Shinobi Train

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jun 5, 2012
Messages
6,011
Reaction score
399
I didn't realize that Canada, Brazil, Mexico etc. were getting credit for the awesomeness that is the USA. No one thinks America is all that great, but they know the US is. Why do people persist with this notion that the USA is all of America? o_O

The reason why the USA is so incredible is because here you can make your own way in life and not be stuck in some system where you can't work to make your life better. I own a f**king head shop, okay...while everyone else is having to work as an employee or something, I own the place and I get to enjoy my life how I want to. I can buy pot like ordering a pizza, and I get the best bud in the world. I drive down the streets at midnight blasting music with the windows down. If someone messes with me, I can shoot that m**erf**ker and the worst I'll get is manslaughter in self defense.

This is the United States of America. I wipe my ass with the flags of other countries, namely Britain's (sorry Brits xd); there is no comparison when it comes to freedom.

In other words:

 

~WastelandSociety~

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 14, 2011
Messages
5,164
Reaction score
353
Bullshit. We need MORE gov't intervention. A lack of Gov't intervention is why the economy exploded. Reagan brought this country back 80 years.

Which is why Bush allow the democrats to have their way,to increase government ,etc :rolleyes:


beef jerkey?
dumbass patriots?
deep fried twinkies?

Smartass patriots you mean ;)



The idiots of their country are entertaining to watch.


So are the idiots in other counties. Very entertaining to watch indeed.



America is a good exemple of modern slavery.


I would say China would be a great example of modern slavery.
 
Last edited:

YowYan

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Dec 9, 2010
Messages
15,124
Reaction score
1,838
Which is why Bush allow the democrats to have their way,to increase government ,etc :rolleyes:




Smartass patriots you mean ;)






So are the idiots in other counties. Very entertaining to watch indeed.






I would say China would be a great example of modern slavery.

Nah, 'smart' and 'patriot' don't go well together.
 

~WastelandSociety~

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 14, 2011
Messages
5,164
Reaction score
353
Nah, 'smart' and 'patriot' don't go well together.

It fits in perfectly,unless you're just finding a pathetic reason to say otherwise (just like any other person that choose to dislike another for showing some love in their country,the land that is and it's people).




I'd rather not. I'm content with staying away from a nation of cowards.

And I bet you're not one of them ;)

A coward that is.
 

Unbiased

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
3,295
Reaction score
376
I didn't realize that Canada, Brazil, Mexico etc. were getting credit for the awesomeness that is the USA. No one thinks America is all that great, but they know the US is. Why do people persist with this notion that the USA is all of America? o_O

The reason why the USA is so incredible is because here you can make your own way in life and not be stuck in some system where you can't work to make your life better. I own a f**king head shop, okay...while everyone else is having to work as an employee or something, I own the place and I get to enjoy my life how I want to. I can buy pot like ordering a pizza, and I get the best bud in the world. I drive down the streets at midnight blasting music with the windows down. If someone messes with me, I can shoot that m**erf**ker and the worst I'll get is manslaughter in self defense.

This is the United States of America. I wipe my ass with the flags of other countries, namely Britain's (sorry Brits xd); there is no comparison when it comes to freedom.

In other words:


There's a few things wrong with that. In the USA you'll get ticketed for driving with your music too loud. You're stuck in that 80's mentality where anything is possible in the USA which is false.

America is a good exemple of modern slavery.

It will be soon.
 

Shinobi Train

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jun 5, 2012
Messages
6,011
Reaction score
399
There's a few things wrong with that. In the USA you'll get ticketed for driving with your music too loud. You're stuck in that 80's mentality where anything is possible in the USA which is false.

Innocent until proven guilty...that's another reason why I love this country. First I'd have to be caught doing it. :p xd
 
Top