What's a better alternative for Naruto then?

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Hey ya, just wanted to hear some opinions on this.
One of the biggest things people complain about naruto is his "borrowed" power. If that's so bad then what would be a better alternative? Should naruto had mokuton or ashura's powers from the start? Perhaps inherited Kushina's uzumaki chains? Maybe have all three? Seriously, naruto needs something to combat heavy hitters like PS. SM isn't enough for that.
Any ideas, M8s?
 

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For me he better be a Fuinjutsu master from start to end.


It can be more creative and very interesting to see compare to busting moves/power we saw today. Look, in the end he still need to used Fuinjutsu to sealed the most powerful being in NV. Focus also on the highest form of Taijutsu.

He can use the Fuinjutsu to seal Sasuke and shut him up also.

There are diverse/various kind Fuinjutsu exist and it very interesting.

See how brilliant my suggestion is
 

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No, being the perfect jin of kurama was the perfect badass power for Naruto and emphasizes his need to cooperate with others to be as strong as he can be.


Yeah sealing jutsu would be cool but that's a boring fight without any other grand power.

The uzumaki chains are something his children should unlock. It was recessive in Naruto.

Mouton should of been his final adult upgrade in the boruto movie but noo..no ninjutsu.
 
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No, being the perfect jin of kurama was the perfect badass power for Naruto and emphasizes his need to cooperate with others to be as strong as he can be.

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It's not borrowed power, Uzumaki inherited Gedo traits and Hagoromo's sealing talents, them being Jinchuuriki is as natural as Uchiha using Sharingan because Indra inherited a diluted form of the Juubi's eye while Ashura inherited the JuubiJin's body.

In the end of the day the bijuu come from the Juubi and having full control over tailed beasts is a natural feat because they descend from a person who was a Jinchuuriki of the first tailed beast.
 

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Sealing jutsu alone is boring.

Thats why I put an emphasize on Taijutsu also.


Mokuton/Doton can be a good complementary jutsu for him.

Fūinjutsu (封印術, Literally meaning: Sealing Techniques) are a type of jutsu that seal objects, living beings, chakra, along with a wide variety of other things within another object. Fūinjutsu can also be used to restrict movement or unseal objects either from within something or someone.

Funjutsu not just being use to trap, restrict or seal someone inside a thing. It can be user for counter jutsu. Like using a seal to stole a tech and later use the tech.

It can work/emulate magic casting symbol but here with chakra signature.

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-Naruto verse Fuinjutsu sign.

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For me he better be a Fuinjutsu master from start to end.


It can be more creative and very interesting to see compare to busting moves/power we saw today. Look, in the end he still need to used Fuinjutsu to sealed the most powerful being in NV. Focus also on the highest form of Taijutsu.

He can use the Fuinjutsu to seal Sasuke and shut him up also.

There are diverse/various kind Fuinjutsu exist and it very interesting.

See how brilliant my suggestion is
Yeah, i would like to see sealing techs used more. I mean imagine if there were weapons that were embedded with danzo's suicide sealing jutsu. That'd be pretty OP.
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Yeah, i would like to see sealing techs used more. I mean imagine if there were weapons that were embedded with danzo's suicide sealing jutsu. That'd be pretty OP.
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The sealing mechanism is OP enough but with secret weapons that can fire the sealing component to anyone outside the sphere zone. That is scary.
 

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Thats why I put an emphasize on Taijutsu also.


Mokuton/Doton can be a good complement jutsu for him.

Fūinjutsu (封印術, Literally meaning: Sealing Techniques) are a type of jutsu that seal objects, living beings, chakra, along with a wide variety of other things within another object. Fūinjutsu can also be used to restrict movement or unseal objects either from within something or someone.

Funjutsu not just being use t trap, restrict or seal someone inside a thing. It can be user for counter jutsu. Like using a seal to stole a tech and later use the tech.

It can work/emulate magic casting symbol but here with chakra signature.

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-Naruto verse Fuinjutsu sign.

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Okay I see what you mean, the possibilities would be pretty tight. I think I judge it as boring is because it's primarily been used as last resorts in fights like the 4th vs kurama, the 3rd vs Oro or Danzo vs Sasuke.

I can't see Naruto as that type of ninja with that skill set though. I guess because he was developed as a powerhouse berserker already but Boruto seems like the type.
 

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Okay I see what you mean, the possibilities would be pretty tight. I think I judge it as boring is because it's primarily been used as last resorts in fights like the 4th vs kurama, the 3rd vs Oro or Danzo vs Sasuke.

I can't see Naruto as that type of ninja with that skill set though. I guess because he was developed as a powerhouse berserker already but Boruto seems like the type.

If only Kishi/his helper see my post here, Boruto can be the one.:sigar:
 

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Borrowed power isn't an issue for the story, it's just an issue outside of the bounds of the plot when determining overall skill and strength in an objective setting.
 

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I would've liked to see more wind-style jutsus, some unique Uzumaki sealing-techniques, not only the chakra chains, as well as Mokuton. If Kishimoto was smart, he could've made Mokuton an Ashura-thing, which would be a good reason why only Hashirama was able to use it and no other Senju in known history.

Also he would have a clear connection to the Juubi/Hagoromo.
Indra -> Sharingan -> Juubi eye
Ashura -> Mokuton -> Juubi body /god tree (remember how Juubito used chakra-draining mokuton dragons and vines?)
 

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I would've liked to see more wind-style jutsus, some unique Uzumaki sealing-techniques, not only the chakra chains, as well as Mokuton. If Kishimoto was smart, he could've made Mokuton an Ashura-thing, which would be a good reason why only Hashirama was able to use it and no other Senju in known history.

Also he would have a clear connection to the Juubi/Hagoromo.
Indra -> Sharingan -> Juubi eye
Ashura -> Mokuton -> Juubi body /god tree (remember how Juubito used chakra-draining mokuton dragons and vines?)
Oh yeah, definitely would've love to see more wind jutsu.
I was honestly hoping to see naruto have a second chakra nature as well.
That makes sense too, kishi sure does love making them connections...
Borrowed power isn't an issue for the story, it's just an issue outside of the bounds of the plot when determining overall skill and strength in an objective setting.
That's true.
The sealing mechanism is OP enough but with secret weapons that can fire the sealing component to anyone outside the sphere zone. That is scary.
Woah! That's better than my idea! :O
 

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Abilities derived from his parents,

- FTG
- Fuinjutsu
- Barriers & Chains
- More Wind-release jutsus

Combined with RSM and his own arsenal, there... You have a beast...
 

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Abilities derived from his parents,

- FTG
- Fuinjutsu
- Barriers & Chains
- More Wind-release jutsus

Combined with RSM and his own arsenal, there... You have a beast...
Srsly, i thought naruto was going to use FTG when he had minato's kunai. :|
 

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Honesty i dont know who has that level of dumbo to even think that Jinchuriki "borrowed power" in the first place. They are jinchuriki for god sake not some beggar sitting and beg for money. Even the title it'self is a huge feat. To even become a perfect jinchuriki is a huge feat for every jinchuriki.

Their life has been unstable from the day 1 and just 1 single mistake can cost their own life. You dont just yea i have a beast inside of me and i can command it or use it like i want. It is not gonna work that way lol. There are dozen of manga scan out there showing how Naruto conquered tailed beast chakra and used it on his own before he even making friend with Kurama.
 

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Honesty i dont know who has that level of dumbo to even think that Jinchuriki "borrowed power" in the first place. They are jinchuriki for god sake not some beggar sitting and beg for money. Even the title it'self is a huge feat. To even become a perfect jinchuriki is a huge feat for every jinchuriki.

Their life has been unstable from the day 1 and just 1 single mistake can cost their own life. You dont just yea i have a beast inside of me and i can command it or use it like i want. It is not gonna work that way lol. There are dozen of manga scan out there showing how Naruto conquered tailed beast chakra and used it on his own before he even making friend with Kurama.

Still not Naruto's power, if he uses Kurama's chakra. No matter how hard he struggled to get to this point. That is a fact, if you like it or not. That's the reason why it is "borrowed power".
 

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I would've liked to see more wind-style jutsus, some unique Uzumaki sealing-techniques, not only the chakra chains, as well as Mokuton. If Kishimoto was smart, he could've made Mokuton an Ashura-thing, which would be a good reason why only Hashirama was able to use it and no other Senju in known history.

Also he would have a clear connection to the Juubi/Hagoromo.
Indra -> Sharingan -> Juubi eye
Ashura -> Mokuton -> Juubi body /god tree (remember how Juubito used chakra-draining mokuton dragons and vines?)

It would also emphasize Indra being equal to Ashura because Enton = Mokuton
But I think it's clear enough Mokuton was Ashura's ability because Hashirama had Ashura's chakra and his DNA lineage.

His abilities were split between two clans, Hashi got the Juubi traits while Naruto got the Jinchuuriki traits, combined it would give Ashura the JuubiJin traits which confirms Hagoromo's statement of his second son inheriting his body a.k.a the JuubJin's body.
 
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