What would you rank Hiashi, Chiyp, and Kitsuchi?

[TheEvilOne]

Says the guy who thinks Tsunade is high kage level despite the fact that many have proved Hiashi can beat Tsunade or at the very least give her a good fight.=D

Yeah, part1 Tsunade is definitely high Kage level. Ebisu stated only a Sannin can stop Orochimaru, this means Tsunade = Orochimaru = Jiraiya. If you put Hiruzen to the high Kage tier because of his hype, Tsunade should be also put there, period. She is easily a top 5 character in part1.

Part2 Tsunade ( after the power scaling ) falls back to the mid Kage tier. If I want to be realistic, current Tsunade is only in low-mid Kage tier.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

He is in denial.., he keeps tryna convince others that what he thinks is correct (Zabuza equal with the ninjas he keep listing). It's all about zabuza when it's said and done. He keeps talking about "tier list" but keep listing the same ninjas in the last 7 threads he has created (guessing 7.lol). Why not other characters? See what I mean?

I did include different characters who I thought weren't on his level in different threads. If you're going to talk about me like a girl take it to the VMs lol not my thread. You act like I'm done and can't see this. Ah, kids these days.

The reason with these threads is because on my previous tier list, my high jounin and low kage tiers were flawed. With these threads, I have made a solution to my new tier list coming out.

Yup, exactly lol. I said pretty much the same thing in one of his other 20 threads. The characters he asks about are the ones he believes are somewhere around Zabuzas level. I think he's just having a tough time accepting the fact that Kitsuchi is that far above Zabuza is all.

Kitsuchi isn't "Far above". Zabuza even beats him more times out of 10 lol. Kitsuchi may be a little stronger, but not as higher up as you say he is.

1. Kitsuchi
2. Hiashi
3. Lady Chiyo

I just finished watching the long fight between Chiyo and Sakura against Sasori so I know where she stands. These two are right on par if not a bit stronger than her so they all belong in the same tier IMO. Maybe not Chiyo. But both beat her medium difficulty...

And I recommend you stop making the same set of threads over and over again. You are a smart guy so use your own judgement, not what other people tell you to do.

Yeah but I'm handsome

And kimmi, and hiashi, and konan, and mangetsu, and the rest. Lmao he just needs to accept and move on to other characters. But his love for zabuza is unrivaled and he is stuck in his loop.

I'm not stuck in any loop. To the bold, you said all the ninja I listed are above Zabuza....they are all roughly in the same tier with a couple exceptions, and nearly everyone agrees on that part.

1) Hiashi - Low-kage. I considered his hype as the leader of the Hyuga clan (which is said to be the strongest in Konoha) and his abilities too ofc.

2) Kitsuchi - High-jonin. Courtesy of his sandwich jutsu and good feats while having a limited screen time.

3) Chiyo - High-jonin. Not enough firepower to be considered any higher imo.

1. Chiyo is mid kage.
2. Hiashi is high jounin.
3. Kitsuchi is high jounin/low kage.

They are all high jounins.

To u three, exactly I think Kitsuchi is between high jounin-low kage, but not necessarily low kage. I may move him up to low kage tho. I need to talk to Icelerate about it

 

[Draegod]

How am I talking behind your back when it's your thread with your notifications? I don't vm ppl often. Again, you read what we put, it's not that serious bruh.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Yeah, part1 Tsunade is definitely high Kage level. Ebisu stated only a Sannin can stop Orochimaru, this means Tsunade = Orochimaru = Jiraiya. If you put Hiruzen to the high Kage tier because of his hype, Tsunade should be also put there, period. She is easily a top 5 character in part1.

Part2 Tsunade ( after the power scaling ) falls back to the mid Kage tier. If I want to be realistic, current Tsunade is only in low-mid Kage tier.

Right, low-mid kage tier is what I have her on my tier list

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Hiashi is definitely low kage. Chiyo and Kitsuchi are both firmly on the same tier at elite Jōnin.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Hiashi is definitely low kage. Chiyo and Kitsuchi are both firmly on the same tier at elite Jōnin.

Hiashi is on the same tier as Chiyo and Kitsuchi

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Hiashi is on the same tier as Chiyo and Kitsuchi

Not at all. Have you seen what Hiashi is capable off? Nothing either Chiyo or Kitsuchi has ever done suggests they're at low kage (which is where Hiashi stands). Most people's entire arguments about Kitsuchi being at low kage was centered around earth sandwhich, which unfortunately is not enough to place him anywhere near kage level.

Tier List

Low-Kage
Hiashi: Extremely powerful, and often underestimated. His rotation dwarfed anything Neji has ever shown, and his air palm forced away an object that carries ridiculous weight (the Juubi's finger). Add a 360 field of vision and the ability to shut down chakra points and you have solid, well rounded, kage level ninja.

Elite Jōnin
Kitsuchi: In all honesty, Kitsuchi hasn't shown very much. Having a single powerful jutsu isn't enough to tango with any of the top tiers, let alone Hiashi. (don't understand where people are pulling this low-mid kage from).

Chiyo: Her puppets are easily destroyed, but she is considerably knowledgeable and controls them with astounding precision, so she isn't a total wuss. Unfortunately she lacks firepower and a viable defense. . . Most of the K11 could take her out. Why are people calling her kage level?

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Does this describe a Jounin? Like, honestly...? A Jounin with Biju level chakra reserves, OP ninjutsu, highly intelligent, hyped to be highly skilled in CQC, with decent strength and speed? Not at all. If you're only considering feats, Kitsuchi is low-kage tier at the very least. If you're going to include hype as well (which you did all over your tier list) then Kitsuchi is nothing short of low-medium Kage tier along with Tsunade, Mei, etc.

Kitsuchi does not have Bijuu level chakra reserves, and is VERY short of low-medium kage.

Putting him on the same tier as Tsunade takes the cake for me. . .

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Not at all. Have you seen what Hiashi is capable off? Nothing either Chiyo or Kitsuchi has ever done suggests they're at low kage (which is where Hiashi stands). Most people's entire arguments about Kitsuchi being at low kage was centered around earth sandwhich, which unfortunately is not enough to place him anywhere near kage level.

Tier List

Low-Kage
Hiashi: Extremely powerful, and often underestimated. His rotation dwarfed anything Neji has ever shown, and his air palm forced away an object that carries ridiculous weight (the Juubi's finger). Add a 360 field of vision and the ability to shut down chakra points and you have solid, well rounded, kage level ninja.

Elite Jōnin
Kitsuchi: In all honesty, Kitsuchi hasn't shown very much. Having a single powerful jutsu isn't enough to tango with any of the top tiers, let alone Hiashi. (don't understand where people are pulling this low-mid kage from).

Chiyo: Her puppets are easily destroyed, but she is considerably knowledgeable and controls them with astounding precision, so she isn't a total wuss. Unfortunately she lacks firepower and a viable defense. . . Most of the K11 could take her out. Why are people calling her kage level?

I agree on the Kitsuchi thing but I think Hiashi is below Chiyo. Chiyo beats Hiashi. Hiashi isn't blocking 10 puppets. If he constantly uses Rotation which takes considerable chakra, he will eventually not have enough chakra to block the puppets.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

I agree on the Kitsuchi thing but I think Hiashi is below Chiyo. Chiyo beats Hiashi. Hiashi isn't blocking 10 puppets. If he constantly uses Rotation which takes considerable chakra, he will eventually not have enough chakra to block the puppets.

It isn't necessary for him to go on the defensive using rotation when he can end all ten puppets in a

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Maybe in her prime Chiyo was nasty, but she simply doesn't possess the skills necessary to contended with the top tiers any longer.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

It isn't necessary for him to go on the defensive using rotation when he can end all ten puppets in a

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Maybe in her prime Chiyo was nasty, but she simply doesn't possess the skills necessary to contended with the top tiers any longer.

Her 10 puppets can go all from all directions, something Air Palm can not. Also, Chiyo has her Three Jewels tech, which can potentially absorb the Air Palm.

One Air Palm isn't soloing Chiyo. Don't underestimate her

 

[Draegod]

I agree on the Kitsuchi thing but I think Hiashi is below Chiyo. Chiyo beats Hiashi. Hiashi isn't blocking 10 puppets. If he constantly uses Rotation which takes considerable chakra, he will eventually not have enough chakra to block the puppets.

lmmao he doesnt have to keep using rotation. It shows you know nothing about the hyugas. smh

 

[ShaneEyyy]

lmmao he doesnt have to keep using rotation. It shows you know nothing about the hyugas. smh

You are severly underestimating Chiyos secret 10 puppet tech. That's all I'm saying. good night

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Her 10 puppets can go all from all directions, something Air Palm can not. Also, Chiyo has her Three Jewels tech, which can potentially absorb the Air Palm.

One Air Palm isn't soloing Chiyo. Don't underestimate her

If her puppets all go in different directions, she leaves herself open for a direct air palm. If her puppets remain stationary to guard her, they get decimated.

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isn't a sealing/absorption technique, but merely a small suction force of wind (the same thing Hiashi throws out).

For the method you mentioned above to work. . .
Sanbō Kyūkai's suction force would have to be > Hiashi's air palm output, which it isn't. All three of her puppets are blown away, that technique is literally useless in this situation.

 

[Draegod]

You are severly underestimating Chiyos secret 10 puppet tech. That's all I'm saying. good night

Saying I underestimate a ninja I supported ONLY on the entire site for the longest? A ninja I know every thing about and know every other puppet user by heart? A ninja I know in and out? Yea sure, what ever floats your boat.

The difference between me and you is I know every ninja you listed By heart from every page they have ever appeared on. So when I state my opinion, I use every manga and databook reference instantly and state my opinion.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

If her puppets all go in different directions, she leaves herself open for a direct air palm. If her puppets remain stationary to guard her, they get decimated.

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isn't a sealing/absorption technique, but merely a small suction force of wind (the same thing Hiashi throws out).

For the method you mentioned above to work. . .
Sanbō Kyūkai's suction force would have to be > Hiashi's air palm output, which it isn't.

You should make a thread on this. And you are underestimating Chiyo. Chiyo made her arm into a puppet arm installed with a chakra shield. She would block the air palm with the shield. Her 10 puppets and their mechanisms will take it from there. I think she wins very high diff. They are in the same tier in my eyes

 

[Draegod]

If her puppets all go in different directions, she leaves herself open for a direct air palm. If her puppets remain stationary to guard her, they get decimated.

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isn't a sealing/absorption technique, but merely a small suction force of wind (the same thing Hiashi throws out).

For the method you mentioned above to work. . .
Sanbō Kyūkai's suction force would have to be > Hiashi's air palm output, which it isn't.

The Vaccum Palm isnt air nor is it wind, It is a high level of chakra that almost instantly hits its target vital spots with pin point precision! The double Vacuum Wall Palm (Hiashi only tech) is simply on a higher level that can basically one shot any ninja that is hit by it with the sheer force and level of chakra hitting every vital point in your body at once.

And Chiyo actually has your defence Chakra arms to protect from any and all Jutsu (databook), but it is a chakra shield. lol Hyugas use chakra to destroy chakra, basically a chakra shield is useless when they have the ability to destroy anything chakra related.

Basically Hiashi wins every time simply off the bad match up. He sees every thing at once, he see's all traps, he uses byakugan last "Insta pic" to alter any would be hit instantly etc etc.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

You should make a thread on this. And you are underestimating Chiyo. Chiyo made her arm into a puppet arm installed with a chakra shield. She would block the air palm with the shield. Her 10 puppets and their mechanisms will take it from there. I think she wins very high diff. They are in the same tier in my eyes

You will rarely find me underestimating anyone. Me and you just have different opinions about where Chiyo stands is all.

Chiyo's chakra shield will absolutely not protect her from Hiashi in anyway, shape, or form. I think maybe you are underestimating the size and destructive force of Hiashi's air palm is. Do you know how massive the finger of the Juubi was? How heavy it was? How hard it would be to fling away an object so immense? Also, have you taken into consideration Hiashi's taijutsu style? He cannot ambushed due to his 360 degree field of vision, and he isn't capable of being overwhelmed considering he is in possession of a rotation completely dwarfing Neji's.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

The Vaccum Palm isnt air nor is it wind, It is a high level of chakra that almost instantly hits its target vital spots with pin point precision! The double Vacuum Wall Palm (Hiashi only tech) is simply on a higher level that can basically one shot any ninja that is hit by it with the sheer force and level of chakra hitting every vital point in your body at once.

And Chiyo actually has your defence Chakra arms to protect from any and all Jutsu (databook), but it is a chakra shield. lol Hyugas use chakra to destroy chakra, basically a chakra shield is useless when they have the ability to destroy anything chakra related.

Basically Hiashi wins every time simply off the bad match up. He sees every thing at once, he see's all traps, he uses byakugan last "Insta pic" to alter any would be hit instantly etc etc.

Had no idea. Hyuua expert in the house :hooray:

Although I'm not entirely sure about it's ability to hit vital points with pin point precision. Kisame seemed to shake off air palm

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[Forbidden Technique]

Kitsuchi does not have Bijuu level chakra reserves, and is VERY short of low-medium kage.

Putting him on the same tier as Tsunade takes the cake for me. . .

Please don't quote me on some dumb shit.