What would have happened if Itachi decided to side with the Uchiha during Coup d'etat

[Nahtaniel]

Danzo has alraidy said it, no ?

Either join your clan, and then the whole clan will be massacred or side with Konoha and at least your little brother can live....

I think if Itachi was never a spy for Konoha, the Uchiha would have a chance.....but since Itachi has informed Konoha about Uchiha's plan, they was destinated to died, even Itachi would not be able to change it at since point.

 

[Dantе]

There will be some users who say uchiha would have gotten exterminated by some unknown fodders and the hyuuga clan

Buy Hyuugas are unknown fodders too. You don't need to name them separately.​

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Suna is a village, sound is a village. Uchiha is a clan. Uchiha ain't going to do something 2 villages couldn't.

Lmao Danzo and hiruzen beg to differ... You fail to understand the same way the uchiha were killed would be the same way they take over the village... Sunagakure and Otogakure are attacking from the outside that means they have to infiltrate the village and they would be intercepted and spotted while the uchiha were killed by uchiha they know and while they we're off guard that would be how the uchiha take over the village, the leaders of the leaf village are the only ones that know of a coup de tat from the uchiha while the villagers do not and they are the ones who would be wrecked in their sleep and btw hiruzen and danzk both said if the uchiha attack then other villages would do so and that means for sure the cloud would attack and that is why the uchiha posed a greater threat to konoha than any village

To simplify it for you and inside job is way easier to perform than and outside job with no knowledge on how the bank works

 

[Dantе]

I mean he wouldn't have successfully killed of the clan if it wasn't for obito. That says a lot about him.

Can you back this up with some manga scans?​

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Danzo has alraidy said it, no ?

Either join your clan, and then the whole clan will be massacred or side with Konoha and at least your little brother can live....

I think if Itachi was never a spy for Konoha, the Uchiha would have a chance.....but since Itachi has informed Konoha about Uchiha's plan, they was destinated to died, even Itachi would not be able to change it at since point.

True but had itachi and whi sui been a part of the uchiha clans plans then the uchiha would have definitely succeeded especially if shi sui was on the uchiha side, he could literally take control of danzo and make him change his mind because we all know hiruzen didn't want any part of that situation

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Can you back this up with some manga scans?​

The manga never showed the actual massacre the animé however did and through the anime as expected some uchiha fought back and were aware and by the manga and anime we knew fugaku uchiha was aware of what was going on and it's clear if he and itach fought it wouldn't have been easy for itachi plus commotion would wake up others and itachi even as great as he is isn't going to be able to beat fugaku a candidate for hokage and the rest of the police force...

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Uchihas get destroyed. We have no idea when itachi obtained totsuka and yata.

There's not much the clan can do. Overall the clan has fallen of f from it's glory days in the ancient times.

Even itachi gets severely outnumbered and overwhelmed by sheer force of numbers. Not to mention all the jounins that can rival him or at least compete against him.

Name a single jonin that can rival him even in the current time not one single jonin can rival him especially not then even without yata and totsuka, amaterasu wrecks and I think it's fanfic that yata and totsuka didnt come with his susano

 

[Mori Jin]

Lmao Danzo and hiruzen beg to differ... You fail to understand the same way the uchiha were killed would be the same way they take over the village... Sunagakure and Otogakure are attacking from the outside that means they have to infiltrate the village and they would be intercepted and spotted while the uchiha were killed by uchiha they know and while they we're off guard that would be how the uchiha take over the village, the leaders of the leaf village are the only ones that know of a coup de tat from the uchiha while the villagers do not and they are the ones who would be wrecked in their sleep and btw hiruzen and danzk both said if the uchiha attack then other villages would do so and that means for sure the cloud would attack and that is why the uchiha posed a greater threat to konoha than any village

To simplify it for you and inside job is way easier to perform than and outside job with no knowledge on how the bank works

Don't mean the uchiha would take over. During the Battle others would attack as well like you said, there's no winning for uchiha. It's die by leafs hand or get crushed when they're invaded by others. It's a lose lose situation.

 

[Mori Jin]

Can you back this up with some manga scans?​

The manga is there obito took care of the military side of the clan. While Itachi went after the civilians and family.

 

[Mori Jin]

Name a single jonin that can rival him even in the current time not one single jonin can rival him especially not then even without yata and totsuka, amaterasu wrecks and I think it's fanfic that yata and totsuka didnt come with his susano

Of course it didn't come with his susano it's fanfic you saying it did. Otherwise orochimaru wouldn't have been looking for it.

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

He wouldn't be using it to same extent he did as when we first saw him use it in the manga. He had no time to train or get used to them or know what it could do.

Fail again we saw him in the manga use amaterasu 2 times ever once to break out of jirayas food cart destroyer toad's mouth and once on sasuke and we saw him use tsukoyami 3 times once on kakashi and twice on sasuke so he used both those jutsu 2 and 3 times how is that too much like you really didn't read the manga thoroughly enough to debate with me about itachi.. You claim he wouldn't spam jutsu he hasn't trained and wouldn't use them nearly as much as he shown in the manga but he has only shown them 2 and 3 times and its manga fact that whenever uchiha get an eye upgrade they spam jutus thats actually they're way of learning the jutsu better

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Of course it didn't come with his susano it's fanfic you saying it did. Otherwise orochimaru wouldn't have been looking for it.

Orochimaru thought he knew a lot but didn't but he was always behind itachi... If this was worthy of proving you right then kishi and the animé would have done so when they showed itachi life when he left konoha it seems they showed everything but how he got those ethereal tools... If they can be found by anyone then where are they now, orochimaru and kabuto had access to itachi body after he died since kabuto later made him a edo so why didn't kabuto decide to take yata and totsuka???

 

[Mori Jin]

Fail again we saw him in the manga use amaterasu 2 times ever once to break out of jirayas food cart destroyer toad's mouth and once on sasuke and we saw him use tsukoyami 3 times once on kakashi and twice on sasuke so he used both those jutsu 2 and 3 times how is that too much like you really didn't read the manga thoroughly enough to debate with me about itachi.. You claim he wouldn't spam jutsu he hasn't trained and wouldn't use them nearly as much as he shown in the manga but he has only shown them 2 and 3 times and its manga fact that whenever uchiha get an eye upgrade they spam jutus thats actually they're way of learning the jutsu better

You're the one wrong here. Itachi is not using his MS eye like he did when we met him in the manga. He's mastered it then he just got it around the time of the coup so no.

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Don't mean the uchiha would take over. During the Battle others would attack as well like you said, there's no winning for uchiha. It's die by leafs hand or get crushed when they're invaded by others. It's a lose lose situation.

Fail again that is when the concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the uchiha enemy is konoha, konoha's enemy was suna/oto/cloud villages, do you understand... The other villages won't have a problem with new leadership as long ad the old leadership is gone thats exactly how war goes just look at history

 

[Mori Jin]

Orochimaru thought he knew a lot but didn't but he was always behind itachi... If this was worthy of proving you right then kishi and the animé would have done so when they showed itachi life when he left konoha it seems they showed everything but how he got those ethereal tools... If they can be found by anyone then where are they now, orochimaru and kabuto had access to itachi body after he died since kabuto later made him a edo so why didn't kabuto decide to take yata and totsuka???

Doesn't matter him looking for the weapon proves in its self that it's something that Itachi found then equipped with his susano not something he awakened

 

[Mori Jin]

Fail again that is when the concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the uchiha enemy is konoha, konoha's enemy was suna/oto/cloud villages, do you understand... The other villages won't have a problem with new leadership as long ad the old leadership is gone thats exactly how war goes just look at history

Of course they would like. This is a kill or be killed world they don't care for new leadership in different villages bit only there own. So no they'd attack and kill whoever yltake whatever and then leave.

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

You're the one wrong here. Itachi is not using his MS eye like he did when we met him in the manga. He's mastered it then he just got it around the time of the coup so no.

Lmao you just said he wouldn't use his M's jutus as much as he did in the manga and when I pointed out to you he didn't use them only 2 and 3 times ever you switch it up to the reason being mastery of his ms... ???????????????????????? so you're now telling me he won't be able to use amaterasu 3 times when theoretically he'll be healthier and tsukoyami twice??? Lmao try again kid, btw amaterasu spreads on its on so one use is enough to kill thousands while they sleep, look at killer bee sasuke put it on his face and it ended up in his whole body or look at when itachi used it on sasuke it was used on his back and by the end of the fight it was all over the entire building...

No matter what you back peddle to I have the answer for it I am itachi of the base just like he I figure out ways to win the debate

 

[Mori Jin]

Lmao you just said he wouldn't use his M's jutus as much as he did in the manga and when I pointed out to you he didn't use them only 2 and 3 times ever you switch it up to the reason being mastery of his ms... ������������������������ so you're now telling me he won't be able to use amaterasu 3 times when theoretically he'll be healthier and tsukoyami twice??? Lmao try again kid, btw amaterasu spreads on its on so one use is enough to kill thousands while they sleep, look at killer bee sasuke put it on his face and it ended up in his whole body or look at when itachi used it on sasuke it was used on his back and by the end of the fight it was all over the entire building...

No matter what you back peddle to I have the answer for it I am itachi of the base just like he I figure out ways to win the debate

Mastery or to the same extant. Might have worded differently but I'm talking about the same thing. Itachi then and the itachi in the manga with the MS are not the same power wise. Comparing the 2 is stupid. So no him siding with the uchiha my give then an edge in this coup but it'll have the same outcome just this time with no uchiha survivors.

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Of course they would like. This is a kill or be killed world they don't care for new leadership in different villages bit only there own. So no they'd attack and kill whoever yltake whatever and then leave.

Nope thats speculation, its a manga fact no uchiha is stupid all or most seem to possess above average analytical skills and fugaku a candidate for hokage isn't stupid enough to start a coup without thinking all the details through... It's common sense if their is any in fighting it makes it easier for others to infiltrate and takeover that's goes for wars sports gangs politics

 

[Oblivionx]

Uchihas would have still lost with certain members scattered across the globe. plot wouldn't have let them win.