What will happen to Europe in the future?

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Frankly this video is disturbing:



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Merkel's reckless policy has resulted in drastic change in the public opinion:​

Refugee crisis: Nearly half of Germans say Angela Merkel's 'welcome' policy is wrong

Even moderates are accusing the German Chancellor of going too far, too fast with refugees, the ‘welcome culture’ is evaporating and border transit camps are planned to send back unwanted migrants​



Merkel's open door policy has brought 'chaos' to Europe, claims George Soros as German leader is blamed for Brexit over her failure to deal with migrant crisis



German Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel Criticizes Merkel's Migration Policy

Hundreds of thousands of migrants arrived in Germany from the Middle East, Africa and elsewhere last year. There is widespread concern about how to integrate them into German society and the labor market, and support for the anti-immigrant party Alternative for Germany (AfD) has grown.

"I, we always said that it's inconceivable for Germany to take in a million people every year," Gabriel said in an interview with broadcaster ZDF.

"There is an upper limit to a country's integration ability,"



The anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD) has overtaken Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) in a pre-election poll in the eastern state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

The poll, conducted by the Insa Institute for the monthly Cicero, forecast the AfD would win 23 percent of the vote in Sunday’s state election, compared to 20 percent for the CDU, which would mark a huge setback for Merkel in her home state.



The demographics will change drastically if this goes on. White european women are having little over 1 child while for example muslim women are having 4-6 of them. This has always been the case: with civilazation and education the birthrates decrease but in the third world countries with little or no education the birth rates increase. This is one aspect of combining two totally different cultures with each other and it could be fatal for the Europe within the next 100 years.

Sweden, a country that is taking the most refugees per capita already went on this road: even after 20 years of integration 42% of long term unemployees are immigrants and 58% of the welfare payments go to immigrants. Forty-five per cent of children with low test scores are immigrants. The majority of people charged with murder, rape and robbery are either first- or second-generation immigrants. Rapes have risen 1400% and there are many no-go zones in swedish suburbs where fireman and paramedics need police escort because the immigrants are attacking them.

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Do you think germans along with the rest of the biggest countries of Europe are, while having good intentions, actually slowly destroying their countries by not making their countries multicultural, but actually changing the culture and changing the demographics?​
 
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That's what I'm saying since the beginning.
Let's see how AfD is doing today. I hope they're the strongest party.

There are very effective ways to solve the problem: ~350 rejections per minute.
 

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That's what I'm saying since the beginning.
Let's see how AfD is doing today. I hope they're the strongest party.

There are very effective ways to solve the problem: ~350 rejections per minute.
Same is also happening in Netherlands:

The leader of the most popular Dutch party ahead of parliamentary elections next year has said he wants to ban all Islamic symbols, mosques and the Koran from the country. Party for Freedom (PVV) leader Geert Wilders says he wants to fight Islam.




Also this happened in Poland:

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Yes, Merkel messed up big time here and I truly hope that her time as the leader is over by the next election. But still, those disgusting right-wing parties like AfD must never come into a position of power. It would be even worse for Germany and Europe. Not just for the immigrants, but also for other minorities like LGBT and the german citizens in general. We don't need another era of fascism.
 

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Yes, Merkel messed up big time here and I truly hope that her time as the leader is over by the next election. But still, those disgusting right-wing parties like AfD must never come into a position of power. It would be even worse for Germany and Europe. Not just for the immigrants, but also for other minorities like LGBT and the german citizens in general. We don't need another era of fascism.
I agree with you on the dark side of AfD and other far-right parties, but as I've witnessed over the years what's been happening with immigration in Europe and the utter incomptence of liberal leaders to deal with islam, I've come to the conclusion that only hard measures will work when it comes to stabilizing our societies from this new problem. Why? Because experience has shown as us that muslims do not integrate. They don't care about education, they have alot children, more than others, and segregate themselves from the community. This leads to alot aimeless young men who are desperate to cling onto their heritage and culture which in turn will alienate them from the society. These are the men who will cause unrest and unorder in society. Like we've witnessed in this crisis: most of the refugees are young males. Who even thinks that a man, having lived in a certain religion influenced culture for his whole life, will suddenly change his ways when he moves into a totally different culture? The leftist are so naive about this.

So while I agree with you, I also agree that this crisis has gone on to the point of which there is no return and we can't use soft ways as of means to try to integrate these people. Banning the koran and the mosques are indeed acts of fascism, but can you tell me a better way? And what makes you so sure it will work? If we continue to spend more years on the soft immigration policy we are risking the lives of our offspring. In the long run there is a possibility that they simply do not integrate and whites will become the minority.

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I remember there was a woman who was raped by refugees then afterwards released a statement apologizing to her rapists because she said they were "conditioned" to rape her because of the racist atmosphere in Europe.
 

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I think EU will eventually fall unfortunately if it continues like this. If EU falls then so does most things within Europe as well such as collaboration and sense of security. Too bad EU hasn't worked at all like it should've when it came to a crisis like this.. We will also be forced to let go of a lot of important questions that are threatening our future, such as climate change and the usage of resources.
 

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I agree with you on the dark side of AfD and other far-right parties, but as I've witnessed over the years what's been happening with immigration in Europe and the utter incomptence of liberal leaders to deal with islam, I've come to the conclusion that only hard measures will work when it comes to stabilizing our societies from this new problem. Why? Because experience has shown as us that muslims do not integrate. They don't care about education, they have alot children, more than others, and segregate themselves from the community. This leads to alot aimeless young men who are desperate to cling onto their heritage and culture which in turn will alienate them from the society. These are the men who will cause unrest and unorder in society. Like we've witnessed in this crisis: most of the refugees are young males. Who even thinks that a man, having lived in a certain religion influenced culture for his whole life, will suddenly change his ways when he moves into a totally different culture? The leftist are so naive about this.

So while I agree with you, I also agree that this crisis has gone on to the point of which there is no return and we can't use soft ways as of means to try to integrate these people. Banning the koran and the mosques are indeed acts of fascism, but can you tell me a better way? And what makes you so sure it will work? If we continue to spend more years on the soft immigration policy we are risking the lives of our offspring. In the long run there is a possibility that they simply do not integrate and whites will become the minority.

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Of course the soft route doesn't work anymore. That's why the people who are now in charge need to wake up and adjust their ways. Otherwise we will end up with facism again, because many people don't think about long-term consequences. They want change, drastic change. And they want it now. Unfortunately, they would even give up our important social freedom in order to achieve it. If that is not a wake-up call for politicians, then I don't know what else would be.

Europe NEEDS to be a lot more strict. Consequently kick out the people who don't desperately need to be here, especially those who behave like blood-suckers. There are other safe places, closer to the home country of the immigrants. Our social system can't carry so many people who don't want to integrate, who don't speek the language and are not able to work for their living. It saddens me, but they can't just sit around here in isolated camps, getting money, furniture and vehicles for free. Those immigrants who do integrate, learn the language and actually contribute their share to the country and society are welcome any day. But the majority is different.

There is a small housing estate for middle-eastern immigrants like 100m away from the house where I live. Every day I see lots of young male immigrants without children or girlfriends who sit on their asses in front of the buildings the entire day, yelling loud arabic stuff with loud arabic music playing. They even tried to hit on my 19 years old sister who has to take that route with our dog to the forest-like area. And even in the night they are not quiet. They either stab each other during a dispute (happened multiple times this year, the police used to be there on a weekly basis for many months) or they yell their arabic stuff in the night while driving down the empty streets on bicycles they got for free by the commune.

This kind of people are cancer to this country and to Europe in general. Before the immigrants came to us, this village was a place for retirees and families with children. That COMPLETELY changed in a very short time. And that's what frightens me. I can absolutely understand why so many people want drastic change, but it's still not healthy-minded to give power to extremists of the opposite direction.
 

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I dont care what happens to germany, as long as it doesnt end up in the amount of immigrants in istanbul. Germans are racist and have to learn the hard way.
 

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We will also be forced to let go of a lot of important questions that are threatening our future, such as climate change and the usage of resources.
Actually that can't be the case as climate change and refugee crisis go hand in hand. Estimates are that in the year 2050 more than 2 billion people will suffer from the lack of food and drinkable water.

250 million people will be climate change refugees by 2050, predicts Huddersfield university academic




Atmospheric researcher Jos Lelieveld is convinced that climate change will have a major impact on the environment and the health of people in these regions. “Climate change will significantly worsen the living conditions in the Middle East and in North Africa. Prolonged heat waves and desert dust storms can render some regions uninhabitable, which will surely contribute to the pressure to migrate,” says Jos Lelieveld.



So we are facing even bigger problems if we don't get both this current refugee crisis and the climate change under control. Atleast we got the Paris climate agreement under way.

I dont care what happens to germany, as long as it doesnt end up in the amount of immigrants in istanbul. Germans are racist and have to learn the hard way.
What a racist thing to say to generalise every german as racists.
 
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And also how the **** can germans and other european people be scared of immigrants in their own ****ing country? (Not in general)
You got no pride or what? I see german people i know telling me they change paths when they see some immigrants (mostly turks) at night. I really hope that turkey lets the million immigrants to europe.
Would be fun
 

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Actually that can't be the case as climate change and refugee crisis go hand in hand. Estimates are that in the year 2050 more than 2 billion people will suffer from the lack of food and drinkable water.

250 million people will be climate change refugees by 2050, predicts Huddersfield university academic




Atmospheric researcher Jos Lelieveld is convinced that climate change will have a major impact on the environment and the health of people in these regions. “Climate change will significantly worsen the living conditions in the Middle East and in North Africa. Prolonged heat waves and desert dust storms can render some regions uninhabitable, which will surely contribute to the pressure to migrate,” says Jos Lelieveld.



So we are facing even bigger problems if we don't get both this current refugee crisis and the climate change under control. Atleast we got the Paris climate agreement under way.



What a racist thing to say to generalise every german as racists.
I changed that in my next post, but most of them are
 

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And also how the **** can germans and other european people be scared of immigrants in their own ****ing country? (Not in general)
You got no pride or what? I see german people i know telling me they change paths when they see some immigrants (mostly turks) at night. I really hope that turkey lets the million immigrants to europe.
Would be fun
Liberal values, democrasy and secularity during the long period of peace after WW2 have taught europeans to be civilized (with the exception of polish, hungarian and tzech people). Thus we don't have the mentality to face third world savages like some of the people you are referring to are. Also most of them (migrants, refugees) move in packs of 10-15 people. Europeans don't do that. And the other reason is that muslim migrates are overpresented in crime statistics. So if you cross paths with a turk gang at night vs when you cross paths with white people, in light of statistics you are more likely to get robbed/raped by the muslim migrants.

You're location says Germany, but you don't talk like a native. You talk like an outsider. Are you an immigrant perhaps? What an utter despicaple thing to say that you would enjoy a immigrant flow to Europe. That's not good for anybody!

I changed that in my next post, but most of them are
Based on what? The fact they have taken million refugees in to their country to give them a safe haven?
 
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