What The Sage believes true power is

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when talking to the bijuus the sage said that unlike you were within me you will be led down the right path and know what true power is
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on the tablet it says that on the quest for peace god divided things into yin and yang and by having two opposite forces cooperate together you can achieve true happiness
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Rikudo was known as a god and his sons represent yin and yang
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life-force and physical energies the basis of yang chakra and spiritual energies=yin chakra
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The sage wanted his two sons to cooperate together to achieve true happiness,not become like him(madara and obito)
and so he chose his son's ideals for peace through love
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when madara and hashi cooperated together they had peace until madara messed it up
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madara believes cooperation is a silent fight
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like the older son who believes in peace through power, madara decides to become both and thanks that is what true power is, also giving him the rinnegan,then become the juubi's jin and use infinite tsukuyomi=peace through power
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madara said he needed both sharingans to unleash his true power
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but before obito went psycho he belived that by working with kakashi, using their sharingans together, he can become stronger;he was still like naruto at this point
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Obito said that naruto and sasuke are the next chosen by fate
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Kishi also says that he keeps them on the opposite sides of the yin/yang spectrum
What is your feeling toward Sasuke now that he has gone through drastic change throughout the series?

Sasuke is always in the corner of my mind. Naruto and Sasuke progress as a pair. So when I write about Naruto, I always have to think about Sasuke. They are on opposite sides of the spectrum, like yin and yang.
Naruto changes sasuke's goals and heart
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but sasuke believed that you get true strength by cutting your bonds with your friends
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on the yin/yang symbol the yin(sasuke)has a bit of yang,fire represents yang,naruto's wind makes it stronger
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The sage wanted his to sons to cooperate together, bringing peace, showing the bijuus what true power is
the bijuus said that naruto is who the sage was talking about,the younger son's descendant who would change the elder son, so they gave him their names and some chakra
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this caused the juubi to panic when the juubi sensed it in naruto
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Naruto and sasuke together might perform the creation of all things,naruto being yang and sasuke being yin,and use the bijuus chakra as well to split the juubi again this might be why they gave naruto their names
the juubi might know something like this and is why he panicked

Summary:true power is the sage's sons cooperating together not becoming like rikudo,which is why he chose the younger son.The sage told the bijuus that there will come a time that they will know what this true power is,and they entrusted naruto with their names and some chakra
 
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Well said my friend, very well said and presented. I've been thinking sorta the same thing for awhile but u went way more in depth and got down to the facts of it. I think u just predicted the end of naruto :cool:
 

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Man ure the greatest analyser ever.....you just sprung up in me a new hope,,,something av never thought and i dnt know,,something just keeps telling me u're right...good job,,keep it up MR RIGHT :D
 

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u r right but sage also said that there will come a time when you all will be lead by a man into the right path...maybe he was referring to naruto aftr all
 

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OT. I do get where you're coming from, and one person doing all this is somewhat impossble...

But the sage seemed to believe that something or someone was going to lead the bijuu. That they were integral parts of this peace. It seems that Sasuke just doesn't fit in this grand scheme of things.

And Naruto isn't affecting Sasuke anymore. He wasn't involved in Sasuke's change in the slightest, that was Hashirama and Itachi.

I just don't see Sasuke being involved in this other than this yin/yang and older younger brother thing. But great analysis nonetheless. If the bijuu entrusted their will to Naruto and believe in him, it seems he alone is going to be the real change.
 

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no beccause the sage chosed his younger son ideals instead of his eldest son, next naruto could never changed sasuke as he already came to that understanding that both of them will die
 

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no beccause the sage chosed his younger son ideals instead of his eldest son, next naruto could never changed sasuke as he already came to that understanding that both of them will die
I know that the sage chose his younger son and on the tablet it said that yin and yang cooperating together can bring happiness
That's why he chose the younger sons ideal he knew that you need peace by having yin and yang cooperating
 

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OT. I do get where you're coming from, and one person doing all this is somewhat impossble...

But the sage seemed to believe that something or someone was going to lead the bijuu. That they were integral parts of this peace. It seems that Sasuke just doesn't fit in this grand scheme of things.

And Naruto isn't affecting Sasuke anymore. He wasn't involved in Sasuke's change in the slightest, that was Hashirama and Itachi.

I just don't see Sasuke being involved in this other than this yin/yang and older younger brother thing. But great analysis nonetheless. If the bijuu entrusted their will to Naruto and believe in him, it seems he alone is going to be the real change.
The sage said that they will be led down the right path by knowing what true power is he also mention unlike you were within me(yin yang)
On the tablet it said yin and yang cooperating together can achieve true happiness
 

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OT. I do get where you're coming from, and one person doing all this is somewhat impossble...

But the sage seemed to believe that something or someone was going to lead the bijuu. That they were integral parts of this peace. It seems that Sasuke just doesn't fit in this grand scheme of things.

And Naruto isn't affecting Sasuke anymore. He wasn't involved in Sasuke's change in the slightest, that was Hashirama and Itachi.

I just don't see Sasuke being involved in this other than this yin/yang and older younger brother thing. But great analysis nonetheless. If the bijuu entrusted their will to Naruto and believe in him, it seems he alone is going to be the real change.
This pretty much. I don't see Sasuke as a big factor to this

Not to mention, Naruto is the Child of Prophecy
 

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You are mistaken if you assume Naruto represents the Younger Son, the Younger Son represents the Body/Yang of the Jūbi much like the Elder Son represents the Eye/Yin of the Jūbi, Naruto is an Uzumaki, he represents Rikūdo, the human Rikūdo aka the Uzumaki Rikūdo who fought the Jūbi before becoming its Jinchūriki, the Elder and Younger Sons of the Sage are spawns of the Jūbi much like the Bijūs
 
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Naruto is not the younger son. That is a blatant falsity. In the manga it is clearly stated that the Uzumaki are related to the Senju, not descended, meaning there is a common link in between (that can't be the Younger Son aka Senju because that would inherently make them descendants). It has to be Rikudo, no doubt, since it can't be the younger Son. If Kishi wanted Naruto to represent the Younger Son, he would have made him a Pure Senju to represent the Yang itself and the Senju portion of the manga... Which he clearly didn't. He made him an Uzumaki. I completely debunked that concept in my last thread.

The Elder-Younger Son incarnation was done by Madara and Hashirama clearly. Both wanted peace; Hashirama did it through "love" ala the Will of Fire (Treat each villager like family) whereas Madara's Eye of the Moon Plan involves submergence, aka control which is synonymous with power itself; at least a facet of such.

There characters in the beginning and most of their lives were based off the concept of establishing peace in a time of war; the stories of Naruto and Sasuke are completely different seeing as Naruto's lifelong goal was acknowledgement and Sasuke's was to redeem his clan; neither coinciding with any kind of thought of peace at all. Currently Sasuke doesn't want "peace' he just wants to destroy the Bijuu to get the power away from every other village. Naruto wants to save the Bijuu's. Neither are directly peace related, but may have those ramifications; but they are indirect at best and don't compare to the lifelong ambitions of Madara and Hashirama.
 
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