What political ideology is most in line with the Akatsuki's ideology of forced peace?

[Deadmed]

I guess there's multiple versions here. There is Yahiko's version, Nagato (Pain)'s version, and then Madara's (Infinite Tsukyomi) version.

I don't know about Yahiko's version would have to refresh myself on his beliefs. Yahiko's version seemed like what we ironically have now, where everyone is kept in line through the fear of nuclear war. Madara's version seems to borrow from Communist/Socialist ideology where everyone's faults/shortcomings are compensated for but at the expense of free will.

 

[Mori Jin]

America's Foreign Policy

 

[Joon]

Yahiko was just a peacemonger, something close to a pacifist; Nagato's version is autocratic; and Madara's version is absolutism.

 

[Chikombo]

Maybe Isis. If Isis rules and everyone follows maybe that's a way to peace.

 

[JStar King]

Socialist???

:wut:

 

[Edogawa]

I don't think there is political ideological concept for Yahiko. Nagato's and Madara's are based on dictatorship; former is through state control and latter is through slavery.

 

[Markovko]

Maybe Isis. If Isis rules and everyone follows maybe that's a way to peace.

You do know, that behind ISIS there are tons of puppet masters from Saudi Arabia and partly US government who invest weaponry and financially in this organization.
Besides, ISIS' goal is not take over the world through radical Islam. They are just rogue, mercenery power, that fights for higher power imperialism through Islamic means, as it is dominant philosophy of Middle East.

 

[HENI]

Yahiko was just a peacemonger, something close to a pacifist; Nagato's version is autocratic; and Madara's version is absolutism.

Aren't autocratic and absolutism the same,

 

[Joon]

Aren't autocratic and absolutism the same,

Different meanings, but fall under the umbrella tyranny.

 

[Nerosmoke]

what? I MEAN WHAT?

I am not sure what you are going with here both are fascist and Madera and Nagato had the same plan.

The leaf village is like a free market with other villages ninjas living in the village.

The mist village has the cast system where you have the poor slave underclass who are forced into death matches to prove they are loyalty to the main higher class.

 

[New Dawn]

Yahiko's & Nagato's are the same. Centralized State Control. Monopolize War or the Defense Industry of the world. I would say more socialist? Because they're not monopolizing everything else (That would make them Communists).

^ This would be similar to Feudal Japan. The Shogun (Nagato) & the Samurai (Akatsuki) watch over the people with a figurehead Emperor (Yahiko).

Madara is probably a Communist. Complete State Control.

Like all Communist & Socialist states with powerful government, the citizens will eventually become enslaved by it. This is what we see with White Zetsus.

The best way to keep peace (though not perfect) is Naruto's way. Distribute the tailed beast power & form a League of Nations/UN. This means centralized state power would not exist & therefore citizens won't be enslaved by their government. This also allows for progress (healthy competition) among nations without war. Freedom is also not infringed.

Sasuke's way is Communist as well. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. He won't be able to maintain the peace. He'll be drunk with power and enslave everyone completely. Almost the same result as Madara's coincidentally.

 

[Nerosmoke]

Yahiko's & Nagato's are the same. Centralized State Control. Monopolize War or the Defense Industry of the world. I would say more socialist? Because they're not monopolizing everything else (That would make them Communists).

^ This would be similar to Feudal Japan. The Shogun (Nagato) & the Samurai (Akatsuki) watch over the people with a figurehead Emperor (Yahiko).

Madara is probably a Communist. Complete State Control.

Like all Communist & Socialist states with powerful government, the citizens will eventually become enslaved by it. This is what we see with White Zetsus.

The best way to keep peace (though not perfect) is Naruto's way. Distribute the tailed beast power & form a League of Nations/UN. This means centralized state power would not exist & therefore citizens won't be enslaved by their government. This also allows for progress (healthy competition) among nations without war. Freedom is also not infringed.

Sasuke's way is Communist as well. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. He won't be able to maintain the peace. He'll be drunk with power and enslave everyone completely. Almost the same result as Madara's coincidentally.

The problem with the UN is they become the higher class over the nations and become immune to all laws.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

nuclear deterrent, is nagato's method right? Use a nuke and ppl fear it causing peace until people forget how bad nukes are and we use it again.

 

[Sagebee]

nuclear deterrent, is nagato's method right? Use a nuke and ppl fear it causing peace until people forget how bad nukes are and we use it again.

I'm pretty sure for that kind of deterrent you need multiple parties to have it to be effective

And I think yes pains path was to control with power

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I'm pretty sure for that kind of deterrent you need multiple parties to have it to be effective

And I think yes pains path was to control with power

pain said that he'd loan it out. So technically multiple parties would have it.

 

[Deadmed]

The problem with the UN is they become the higher class over the nations and become immune to all laws.

I don't agree with the UN because they favor globalism over the will of the people, trying to replace the native populations with the 3rd world, it's a fate worse than war. At least in war you have something to fight for, it's not like you're being held down and forced to accept your countries being taken over by the "new" Americans/Europeans.

 

[New Dawn]

The problem with the UN is they become the higher class over the nations and become immune to all laws.

Exactly why smaller nations like Hidden Rain was pushed to the curb while the Great 5 called the shots.

 

[New Dawn]

I don't agree with the UN because they favor globalism over the will of the people, trying to replace the native populations with the 3rd world, it's a fate worse than war. At least in war you have something to fight for, it's not like you're being held down and forced to accept your countries being taken over by the "new" Americans/Europeans.

This is something we see in East Asian history. For example China & Japan had the "warring states period" and after that period, a centralized government takes over to bring "peace & harmony" to the world. Notice that Uchiha are Japanese? And sasuke's way is similar to east asian governance? The West went a different route.