What people should consider

[Rikudou Tobi]

What I notice before that most people believe that the bigger the jutsu the stronger. Almost that sense of a primative thought process and it's kinda makes sense to a very limited degree.
Naturally the biggest jutsus that require no preparations that existed among the shinobis is C0 and then Shinsuusenju.

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At the beginning of shippuden most people believed that deidara was one of the strongest, mid-way we all believed Hashirama was the absolute strongest, and at then we see people controlling the power of Juubi individuals towering everyone else in power.

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HOWEVER!!!

We started to see Rikudou chakra individuals incorporate less flashy, big, entertaining moves. They don't have or use that country exploding techniques or village busting techniques.
I'll use Madara as an example.

VOTE Madara
-Susanoo slashes five mountains
-Kyuubi summoning
-Katon
-Genjutsu

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We agree that it's all pretty big decent firepower and fairly large in size. But compare that all his previous techniques to his Alive Rinnegan Madara, they are all bigger than his techniques.

Rinnegan Madara
-Rinnegan Limbo Hengoku
-Rikudou jutsus absorption and chakra rods
Gedou Mazou summoning

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All these techniques Rinnegan Madara used couldn't even create a crater if the user even if he tried.
But the best part is, he's still stronger than the VOTE Madara version. Yet he doesn't have anything within his arsenal that can send exploding tailed beast bomb.
So you don't always have to have some mountain busting technique to be stronger/more powerful than a guy who does have one.
And for characters who do have those high level techniques, don't always rely on their biggest jutsus to get by everyone. They usually incorporate the little techniques that have a great impact on the most powerful jutsus.

 

[Angelic.]

Interesting

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Exactly! That's why Sakura and Tsunade > Naruto and Sasuke :bdpf:

I already explained exceptions to this logic. It's not for everybody...Fortunately.:bdpf:

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

That's why one eye can take over a planet via tsukiomi but a 1000 rasengans can only kill so many people out of the millions

 

[Tyris]

Of course Lord Crow solos all.. he's just modest

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That's why one eye can take over a planet via tsukiomi but a 1000 rasengans can only kill so many people out of the millions

That's another good one to consider. The most powerful jutsu in the world can't make a single mountain explode but it soloes almost everyone in the series.

 

[NarutoX28]

This is true. Chakra Quality and Chakra Output are both significant factors in determining the strength of one's jutsu. It seems that people who have highly developed Chakra are the ones who can release larger amounts of Chakra.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Interesting

Why? You learned something new?

 

[DominiqueX]

It's not about the size, it's about the technique. Like everything in life.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It's not about the size, it's about the technique. Like everything in life.

Haha, why you speak from experience?
Most would rather have both.

 

[Magnolius]

That's why one eye can take over a planet via tsukiomi but a 1000 rasengans can only kill so many people out of the millions

Tsukyomi was reflected onto something bigger than any rasengan ever created. The moon.

 

[DominiqueX]

Haha, why you speak from experience?
Most would rather have both.

That was a joke. I think guys here that all the time.

But on topic:
I don't see the need for possessing big-size or massive-destruction techniques. Limbo Hengoku, Amaterasu and such is enough to beat 99,9% of the "Naruto" world-population. It also has a lot of style.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Tsukyomi was reflected onto something bigger than any rasengan ever created. The moon.

But the moon didn't really do anything, just the reflection.

That was a joke. I think guys here that all the time.

Damn, that sucks

But on topic:
I don't see the need for possessing big-size or massive-destruction techniques. Limbo Hengoku, Amaterasu and such is enough to beat 99,9% of the "Naruto" world-population. It also has a lot of style.

Completely agree, but anytime people start comparing characters to other characters, they use the argument of not having a bigger flashier jutsu.
You read it all the time.

 

[Magnolius]

But the moon didn't really do anything, just the reflection.

That doesn't subside the fact that it (The Moon, gigantic rock in the sky) was used for a mass spread genjutsu. My point is, in contradiction to your earlier statement, that two eyes are needed to place one person under IT, but a whole Moon is needed to place the world under IT. Meaning that size does indeed matter when it comes to IT.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That doesn't subside the fact that it (The Moon, gigantic rock in the sky) was used for a mass spread genjutsu. My point is, in contradiction to your earlier statement, that two eyes are needed to place one person under IT, but a whole Moon is needed to place the world under IT. Meaning that size does indeed matter when it comes to IT.

My case was Justus as a whole. CjK brought up the IT and in some perspective I can see how right he is.
IT doesn't blow up mountains and turn countries to ashes yet it is the most powerful jutsu thus far.

Oh and you don't need two eyes to place someone on IT. Obito's ghetto version was to use one eye from the good tree to reflect off the moon.

 

[Magnolius]

My case was Justus as a whole. CjK brought up the IT and in some perspective I can see how right he is.
IT doesn't blow up mountains and turn countries to ashes yet it is the most powerful jutsu thus far.

Oh and you don't need two eyes to place someone on IT. Obito's ghetto version was to use one eye from the good tree to reflect off the moon.

Your thread says that people believe "the bigger the jutsu, the stronger", and then you went on to disprove this notion with examples of powerful jutsu that were not "big" but still retained the "strong" characteristics. CJH then said

That's why one eye can take over a planet via tsukiomi but a 1000 rasengans can only kill so many people out of the millions

Which implied, in response to your thread, that Tsukyomi is another example of jutsu that isn't necessarily big, but still retains massive power. I corrected him by telling him that Tsukyomi "was" in fact a big jutsu, so could not be used as an example. In order to take the world under his Genjutsu, Madara needed to reflect the eyes over the Moon, a massive, enourmous rock, just to initiate it. So technically, the IT capable of world genjutsu is the Moon reflected one, meaning that it is big.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Your thread says that people believe "the bigger the jutsu, the stronger", and then you went on to disprove this notion with examples of powerful jutsu that were not "big" but still retained the "strong" characteristics. CJH then said



Which implied, in response to your thread, that Tsukyomi is another example of jutsu that isn't necessarily big, but still retains massive power. I corrected him by telling him that Tsukyomi "was" in fact a big jutsu, so could not be used as an example. In order to take the world under his Genjutsu, Madara needed to reflect the eyes over the Moon, a massive, enourmous rock, just to initiate it. So technically, the IT capable of world genjutsu is the Moon reflected one, meaning that it is big.

He gave you the clue on what he actually meant when he said big jutsu.

IT doesn't blow up mountains and turn countries to ashes yet it is the most powerful jutsu thus far

At underline what he meant in his thread. He meant big ass explosion or wide area destruction tech here. Not wide scale jutsu.

There are wide scale jutsu that not needed to be a big ass explosion or flashy attack but still powerful enough to effect wide area and very effective too

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Your thread says that people believe "the bigger the jutsu, the stronger", and then you went on to disprove this notion with examples of powerful jutsu that were not "big" but still retained the "strong" characteristics. CJH then said



Which implied, in response to your thread, that Tsukyomi is another example of jutsu that isn't necessarily big, but still retains massive power. I corrected him by telling him that Tsukyomi "was" in fact a big jutsu, so could not be used as an example. In order to take the world under his Genjutsu, Madara needed to reflect the eyes over the Moon, a massive, enourmous rock, just to initiate it. So technically, the IT capable of world genjutsu is the Moon reflected one, meaning that it is big.

So you're trying to draw things from a technical aspect?
Well if you want to go even further than that, technically the moon isn't doing anything but projecting the source of power coming from the the little eye on the forehead. The casting of the jutsu did not come from the moon it just reflect off of it.

But Arai did an outstanding job going into great details to explain the purpose and point of this thread.